John,

Get your crew on board!! Put a boat hook in their hands and make it
clear to them what you're going to do.

AND;--- If you can't get the Bow into the wind, so be it; Back out and
let the bow follow. Stern walk can be minimized by "Pussy footing" the
throttle. Gently on the RPM's until you get decent sternway. Remember
you have a gear called neutral don't be afraid to use it.

I have pretty much the same slip set-up as you, with a Starboard tie-up.
My water way opens to the North. With a North wind blowing I have a crew
keep the boat, with a boat hook or the loose spring backing straight. As
I clear the slip, If the bow doesn't come UP I point it downwind to
allow for stern walk when I shift to reserve and back out the twenty
slips in the waterway and into the Channel

I can do this Single Handed by holding the stern line long enough to get
enough sternway to overcome stern walk with rudder control.

Ole Thom
P/S My page address is attached there are a couple of pictures of my
boat in the slip. Much like you discribed.




http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomsPage

"Joe" wrote in message
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John Lechmanik wrote:


If your planing on being at the same dock for long term, then perhaps
you should go to a left hand prop.

You know Joe... I can't for the life of my understand how manoeuvring a
Hunter 31 to be difficult. I've sailed on one.... it's a fin keeler and
turns on a dime. I think this guy is being way too ginger on the throttle.
Short bursts of throttle should compensate for propwalk.

He'd be lost if he tried my full keeler.... she hates the engine. don't
see why he doesn't line the vessel out with both springs. It's not a heavy
boat and that's what I usually do with mine... single-handed!

CM

Parking the boat stern first will make pulling out with more control in
any condition much easier plus it will sure make boarding easier.

You back in a car... you back out a boat.

CM

"rgnmstr" wrote in message
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Parking the boat stern first will make pulling out with more control in
any condition much easier plus it will sure make boarding easier.

"John Lechmanik" wrote in message
...

I appreciate the help, from the gist of things, I get that this should be
easily doable, but I need a lot more practice....


The first three weekend that I had my sailboat were spent practicing in the
creek outside the marina. The pontoon hammerheads are arranged in a
semicircle, so we practiced mooring on them, with all angles of wind. After
a few weekends, I knew exactly how the boat would behave in any berthing
situation.

The only thing that I would add to all the good advice that you have already
been given is that you don't need to concentrate on the prop walk. If you
get in a bit of practice in different circumstances, then you will get the
'feel' of the boat. You won't have to know which way the prop kicks because
you will automatically read the situation.

For example, you don't know how far you need to push the brake pedal to slow
your auto down.... your foot knows. If you don't believe me try using your
left foot on the brake - and see what happens! Make sure that you aren't
going too fast when you try this.



Regards


Donal
--

Bull****. You can park your boat any way that's convenient. As he said, it
can make it easier to board and bring on supplies. You give up some privacy,
but that's about the only disadvantage.

--
"j" ganz @@
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"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
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You back in a car... you back out a boat.

CM

"rgnmstr" wrote in message
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Parking the boat stern first will make pulling out with more control in
any condition much easier plus it will sure make boarding easier.

Wrong! you back-woods backwards Canadjun.

You back out a car ....you back in a boat.

SV


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
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You back in a car... you back out a boat.

CM

"rgnmstr" wrote in message
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Parking the boat stern first will make pulling out with more
control in
any condition much easier plus it will sure make boarding easier.

Why doesn't your crew board when you do?

SV


"John Lechmanik" wrote in message
...
Although I'm a little experienced at sailing, I'm still learning a
lot of
the little incidental things. Such as pulling out of a dock. We
have a
Hunter 310 (a little "beamy" and our slip is narrow) that is moored
in the
SF Bay area. We have less than 2 feet of total clearance between
the boat
and the dock at the widest point. Our slip is about 1/2 way down
the berths
with slips on both sides of the passageway. The passageway is
probably 40 -
50 feet wide. We have an "upwind berth" which faces to the south
(normal
summer wind direction).

The Marina is surrounded by homes and the wind is usually blocked
pretty
well by the wind from the south by other rows of sailboats. However
the
wind from the east, west, and north are not that blocked. To make
things
more interesting our exit from the slip is to the east, which means
I have
to back out of the slip to the right. The boat pulls to port when
in
reverse.

Here is the fun part. During this time of the year, the wind comes
from a
variety of directions. When the wind comes from the east (port side
of the
boat when in the slip) it's a challenge getting out of the slip.
The first
time I backed out under these conditions I was just out of the slip,
and
turning the boat to starboard when the wind pushed the bow back
around. No
matter what I did, I couldn't get the boat turned into the wind and
was
being pushed by the wind down the marina. I finally spotted an open
slip
and pulled in. We ran a line off the bow and I backed out again,
but this
time had the bow held to the dock. I managed to get the boat turned
into
the wind, picked up my partner (2 man crew that day) and sailed off.

A few days ago, we had the east winds again, but this time with a
little bit
of north. After reading up, I tried to run a line off the starboard
stern
to pull the stern around as I backed out. This SEEMED to be working
until I
tried to pull next to the slip to pick up my partner, and the north
effect
of the wind started pushing my starboard into the parked boats. We
managed
to finally get some forward momentum and move foward while fending
off the
boats. I couldn't pick up my partner and had to pull around to the
downwind
side of the berths and pick her up there. The wind was only about
3 - 4
kts.

I know it's been a long explaination, but now I'm wondering how to
pull out
under these conditions and pick up my crew before leaving.

Any suggestions???


--
John Lechmanik

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You back in a power boat you Yankee Doodle Dandy..... you sail in a
sailboat!

Anyone that has a problem backing out of a slip needs to seriously reassess
their skill-set.... especially if it involves a fin keeler.

To prove my point you only need to read Gaynzy's reply... he prefers backing
in !!!

CM


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Wrong! you back-woods backwards Canadjun.

You back out a car ....you back in a boat.

SV


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:XWoZd.30970$i6.30104@edtnps90...
You back in a car... you back out a boat.

CM

"rgnmstr" wrote in message
oups.com...
Parking the boat stern first will make pulling out with more
control in
any condition much easier plus it will sure make boarding easier.

Obviously this guy needs to tune in the crew... big time.!!!

CM

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Why doesn't your crew board when you do?

SV


"John Lechmanik" wrote in message
...
Although I'm a little experienced at sailing, I'm still learning a
lot of
the little incidental things. Such as pulling out of a dock. We
have a
Hunter 310 (a little "beamy" and our slip is narrow) that is moored
in the
SF Bay area. We have less than 2 feet of total clearance between
the boat
and the dock at the widest point. Our slip is about 1/2 way down
the berths
with slips on both sides of the passageway. The passageway is
probably 40 -
50 feet wide. We have an "upwind berth" which faces to the south
(normal
summer wind direction).

The Marina is surrounded by homes and the wind is usually blocked
pretty
well by the wind from the south by other rows of sailboats. However
the
wind from the east, west, and north are not that blocked. To make
things
more interesting our exit from the slip is to the east, which means
I have
to back out of the slip to the right. The boat pulls to port when
in
reverse.

Here is the fun part. During this time of the year, the wind comes
from a
variety of directions. When the wind comes from the east (port side
of the
boat when in the slip) it's a challenge getting out of the slip.
The first
time I backed out under these conditions I was just out of the slip,
and
turning the boat to starboard when the wind pushed the bow back
around. No
matter what I did, I couldn't get the boat turned into the wind and
was
being pushed by the wind down the marina. I finally spotted an open
slip
and pulled in. We ran a line off the bow and I backed out again,
but this
time had the bow held to the dock. I managed to get the boat turned
into
the wind, picked up my partner (2 man crew that day) and sailed off.

A few days ago, we had the east winds again, but this time with a
little bit
of north. After reading up, I tried to run a line off the starboard
stern
to pull the stern around as I backed out. This SEEMED to be working
until I
tried to pull next to the slip to pick up my partner, and the north
effect
of the wind started pushing my starboard into the parked boats. We
managed
to finally get some forward momentum and move foward while fending
off the
boats. I couldn't pick up my partner and had to pull around to the
downwind
side of the berths and pick her up there. The wind was only about
3 - 4
kts.

I know it's been a long explaination, but now I'm wondering how to
pull out
under these conditions and pick up my crew before leaving.

Any suggestions???


--
John Lechmanik

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