It really pains me greatly to say this but I agree with Ganz on this
one.

I rarely use my engine to back down on the anchor. It is most often
simply not necessary to do so to get a good set.

1) One can anchor under sail by backing the sails or heaving-to going
sideways and use the mass of the vessel, itself, to set the anchor.

2) One can use several stout, fast pulls on the rode to set an
anchor if there is no wind or current.

3) One can dive on the anchor and look to see if it's set and push
it home if it isn't.

4) One can use the forward speed of the vessel under sail to set
the anchor, then round up and douse sail.

I hope this helps all you lubbers to figure out how us real sailors
make simple something you make complicated.

CN


"JG" wrote in message ...
Well, wouldn't the wind or tide give you that? Why use the engine if you
don't have to? Of course, Mooron has to, but...

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Then, why do you listen to an idiotic fool like Binary Bill?

CN


"JG" wrote in message ...
I don't consider advise on anything from a stupid fool such as you.

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"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
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Look Gaynzy... I don't really consider that advise on anchoring from
somebody that can't set a 40lb CQR.... has any value whatsoever.

CM

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
It really pains me greatly to say this but I agree with Ganz on this
one.

Oh Good Grief.....


I rarely use my engine to back down on the anchor. It is most often
simply not necessary to do so to get a good set.

You've got a friggin 9hp outboard!!!


1) One can anchor under sail by backing the sails or heaving-to going
sideways and use the mass of the vessel, itself, to set the anchor.

Nobody said that can't be done...


2) One can use several stout, fast pulls on the rode to set an
anchor if there is no wind or current.

Yeah if you sail a 27 foot Dinghy!


3) One can dive on the anchor and look to see if it's set and push
it home if it isn't.

Not practical nor applicable in some circumstances.... try diving on a 40 ft
set without tanks.


4) One can use the forward speed of the vessel under sail to set the
anchor, then round up and douse sail.

Nobody said you couldn't do that either....


I hope this helps all you lubbers to figure out how us real sailors
make simple something you make complicated.

What it shows is your limited experience in dealing only with light
displacment vessels and their anchoring options.

CM

Why do you think you need a parrot. You're dumb enough already. YOU LOST!

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"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
Then, why do you listen to an idiotic fool like Binary Bill?

CN


"JG" wrote in message
...
I don't consider advise on anything from a stupid fool such as you.

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"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
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Look Gaynzy... I don't really consider that advise on anchoring from
somebody that can't set a 40lb CQR.... has any value whatsoever.

CM

The whole point, you stupid fool, is that you're a creep. Why don't you tell
us again about your relationship with your chickens.

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"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
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The whole point of the matter... you brain dead little Homo... is that
different situations require different approaches. A basic logic you
continuously fail to grasp... which of course leaves you with a litany of
dragging and failed sets.

Until you've operated a 30 ft full keel without any auxcillry for a
year... you might have sufficient capacity to broach the topic of ground
tackle, kedging and setting anchor undersail with me.

If I elect to utilize my auxiliary to secure my set.... it's because I
can.... to ignore that option out of some deluded sense of sailing
purity... and then piously motor to your dock under the misconception
you are a competent, skilled and capable sailor.... illustrates how
idiotic your position is on the subject.

CM

"JG" wrote in message
...
Well, wouldn't the wind or tide give you that? Why use the engine if you
don't have to? Of course, Mooron has to, but...

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"otnmbrd" wrote in message
ink.net...
Some anchoring points from "My" perspective...,...

Sometimes, all that's needed to get a recalcitrant anchor to fetch up,
is to add some scope .... haven't got a clue as to why, your experience
may vary.

When anchoring, always try to have at least 1-2k of sternway (backing at
1800 seems excessive, but waddahey, whatever works). When the anchor
fetches the line/chain will go taut and then slowly slack off, but if it
hasn't, it may go taut, slack, taut, etc..

When heaving an anchor, once the anchor is aweigh, if your chain/line is
led over a roller, or through a hawse pipe, the chain/line will wabble
from the roller/HP, down.

EG Some tidbits of potentially useless information.

otn

Compared to you, his chicken is a real sailor fatboy.

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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"JG" wrote in message
...
Well, wouldn't the wind or tide give you that?

Not necessarily,

Why use the engine if you
don't have to?

To make certain of a good set.


Of course, Mooron has to

because he's a real sailor.


SV

Well, the point is that there usually is where I live. We never need to back
to set the hook.

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"otnmbrd" wrote in message
nk.net...

"JG" wrote in message
...
Well, wouldn't the wind or tide give you that? Why use the engine if you
don't have to? Of course, Mooron has to, but...


And if there's no wind or current? Use the "wind or tide", or use the
engine .... point is, use what works.

otn

Scotti Potti is big on flushes.

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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"otnmbrd" wrote in message
nk.net...

"JG" wrote in message
...
Well, wouldn't the wind or tide give you that? Why use the engine
if you
don't have to? Of course, Mooron has to, but...


And if there's no wind or current?

It's always windy when Gaynz is around.

SV

Mooron is no sailor. He's got to have help. Talk to his chickens.

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"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:eDIWd.17140$fc4.1279@edtnps89...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
It really pains me greatly to say this but I agree with Ganz on this
one.

Oh Good Grief.....


I rarely use my engine to back down on the anchor. It is most often
simply not necessary to do so to get a good set.

You've got a friggin 9hp outboard!!!


1) One can anchor under sail by backing the sails or heaving-to going
sideways and use the mass of the vessel, itself, to set the anchor.

Nobody said that can't be done...


2) One can use several stout, fast pulls on the rode to set an
anchor if there is no wind or current.

Yeah if you sail a 27 foot Dinghy!


3) One can dive on the anchor and look to see if it's set and push
it home if it isn't.

Not practical nor applicable in some circumstances.... try diving on a 40
ft set without tanks.


4) One can use the forward speed of the vessel under sail to set the
anchor, then round up and douse sail.

Nobody said you couldn't do that either....


I hope this helps all you lubbers to figure out how us real sailors
make simple something you make complicated.

What it shows is your limited experience in dealing only with light
displacment vessels and their anchoring options.

CM

Oh Cripes... Gaynzy can't keep track of the thread .... and he's been
reduced to a fear biter!

Tick Tick Tick....

CM



"JG" wrote in message
...
Why do you think you need a parrot. You're dumb enough already. YOU LOST!

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"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
Then, why do you listen to an idiotic fool like Binary Bill?

CN


"JG" wrote in message
...
I don't consider advise on anything from a stupid fool such as you.

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"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
news:PSuWd.3315$i6.1989@edtnps90...
Look Gaynzy... I don't really consider that advise on anchoring from
somebody that can't set a 40lb CQR.... has any value whatsoever.

CM