Capt. Mooron wrote:
"DSK" wrote in message


Is CAD a graphic art?


NO!... it's a drafting / modeling application.

Rot! CAD: Computor Aided Design; the operative word here being design. Some design is pure science, some is pure art, most is a bit of both.

Show me a good designer and I'll show you an artist.

Cheers
Marty

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
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Capt. Mooron wrote:
"DSK" wrote in message


Is CAD a graphic art?


NO!... it's a drafting / modeling application.

Rot! CAD: Computor Aided Design; the operative word here being design.
Some design is pure science, some is pure art, most is a bit of both.


It's a misnomer..... vector based and you provide the coordinates for it to
plot.. 2D or 3D. Yes you can design from scratch.... but try and import a
rastar based graphic to incorporate and your **** out of luck. It's utilzed
in engineering.. not graphics.

Show me a good designer and I'll show you an artist.

Yeah?... I'll show you a good draftsman.

CM

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
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Rot! CAD: Computor Aided Design; the operative word here being design.
Some design is pure science, some is pure art, most is a bit of both.

It's a misnomer..... vector based and you provide the coordinates for it
to
plot.. 2D or 3D. Yes you can design from scratch.... but try and import
a
rastar based graphic to incorporate and your **** out of luck. It's
utilzed
in engineering.. not graphics.

Usually. :-) I've done artwork masters for a guy that makes things in wax -
I start by importing a raster image (scans of hand-drawn stuff) and tracing
polylines around all the important bits to establish a base before working
up the final thing. (The masters are then photographed as negatives,
reduced, and used to make etched metal bucks, from which rubber moulds are
cast...)

"Wally" wrote in message
Usually. :-) I've done artwork masters for a guy that makes things in
wax -
I start by importing a raster image (scans of hand-drawn stuff) and
tracing
polylines around all the important bits to establish a base before working
up the final thing. (The masters are then photographed as negatives,
reduced, and used to make etched metal bucks, from which rubber moulds are
cast...)

Excellent! Yeah like I said... you input coordinates and AutoCAD will
render it... it's just to meticulous and specific a program to be utilized
for general graphics applications. I do a lot of digitizing of hand drawn
work myself..... the most intense was a drawing in which I had to digitize
individual hairs on a Muskox. It was about 40 hours of work to complete.

CM

"Capt. Mooron" wrote

the most intense was a drawing in which I had to digitize
individual hairs on a Muskox.


why?

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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"Capt. Mooron" wrote

the most intense was a drawing in which I had to digitize
individual hairs on a Muskox.


why?

The hairs had to be coloured to reflect the colour original. I had to not
only do the individual hairs but seperate the colour profiles on overlays.
Each hair ... or each group of hairs on any given seperation could be
altered in form or colour. The horns alone were on six seperate layers....
it's what the customer wanted.

CM

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message news:x2KMd.3304

Excellent! Yeah like I said... you input coordinates and AutoCAD will
render it... it's just to meticulous and specific a program to be utilized
for general graphics applications. I do a lot of digitizing of hand drawn
work myself..... the most intense was a drawing in which I had to
digitize
individual hairs on a Muskox. It was about 40 hours of work to complete.

I think I'd go bananas if I tried drawing an oxful of hairs! My biggest
'lots of the same' job was over two million yellow dots, but they weren't a
trace of hand drawings.

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message

Is CAD a graphic art?
NO!... it's a drafting / modeling application.

Rot! CAD: Computor Aided Design; the operative word here being
design.

The operative term is 'Computer Aided'. The 'D' properly stands for
'Drafting'. CAD is an electronic drawing board - it doesn't contain 'design'
tools, it contains 'drafting' tools.


Some design is pure science, some is pure art, most is a bit
of both.

Good design is about finding solutions to address specific problems. Good
drafting is about expressing or describing those solutions with sufficent
competence for them to be implemented.


Show me a good designer and I'll show you an artist.

There are plenty of good designs that are badly drawn - because there are
good designers that can't drive CAD (or draw) to save themselves.

"Wally" wrote in message
The operative term is 'Computer Aided'. The 'D' properly stands for
'Drafting'. CAD is an electronic drawing board - it doesn't contain
'design'
tools, it contains 'drafting' tools.

I concur!

Good design is about finding solutions to address specific problems. Good
drafting is about expressing or describing those solutions with sufficent
competence for them to be implemented.

Yes!

There are plenty of good designs that are badly drawn - because there are
good designers that can't drive CAD (or draw) to save themselves.

Exactly!

Marty... listen to Wally... he knows what he's talking about!

CM

"Wally" wrote
The operative term is 'Computer Aided'. The 'D' properly stands for
'Drafting'. CAD is an electronic drawing board - it doesn't contain
'design'
tools, it contains 'drafting' tools.

Capt. Mooron wrote:
I concur!


Well, you're both wrong... or maybe it's just that you've been using the
cheap set of AutoCad tools. AutoCad will do a large number of design
calculations including area, volume, centers of mass, and moments of
inertia. It will also extract a bill of materials



Good design is about finding solutions to address specific problems. Good
drafting is about expressing or describing those solutions with sufficent
competence for them to be implemented.


Well stated.


There are plenty of good designs that are badly drawn - because there are
good designers that can't drive CAD (or draw) to save themselves.


And are either too arrogant or too poor to hire a good draftsman.

Regards
Doug King