OzOne wrote in message ...
On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 12:26:50 -0500, Capt. Neal®
scribbled thusly:

Rule 11
Rules in this section apply to vessels in sight of one another.

Rule 12
(a) When two sailing vessels are approaching one another,
so as to involve risk of collision, one of them shall keep out of
the way of the other as follows:

when each has the wind on a different side, the vessel which has
the wind on the port side shall keep out of the way of the other;

when both have the wind on the same side, the vessel which is to
windward shall keep out of the way of the vessel which is to leeward;

if a vessel with the wind on the port side sees a vessel to windward
and cannot determine with certainty whether the other vessel has the
wind on the port or on the starboard side, she shall keep out of the
way of the other.

(b) For the purposes of this Rule the windward side shall be deemed
to be the side opposite that on which the mainsail is carried or, in the
case of a square-rigged vessel, the side opposite to that on which the
largest fore-and-aft sail is carried.

Pretty simple, isn't it?

Most interesting to me is this part:

"when both have the wind on the same side, the vessel which is to
windward shall keep out of the way of the vessel which is to leeward;"

This says if one sailboat is overtaking another and both have the wind
on the same side, then the sailboat to weather is the give way vessel.

This tells me that the overtaking rule where the overtaken vessel is always
the stand-on vessel does not apply to sailboats.

CN

Please indicate where anything is mentioned about overtaking?


Rule 12
(a) When two sailing vessels are approaching one another. . .

Does that statement not include overtaking?

CN

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message

(a) When two sailing vessels are approaching one another. . .

Does that statement not include overtaking?

One sailing vessel could be said to be approaching the other, but not the
other way round - they're both heading in the same direction, and the notion
of 'approach' rests in one travelling faster than the other.

Tut tut! approaching one another means 'to move nearer to.'

It cannot be denied that the two vessels are moving nearer
to one another when they are approaching one another.
Relative speeds of the vessels does not matter.

CN

"Wally" wrote in message k...
"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message

(a) When two sailing vessels are approaching one another. . .

Does that statement not include overtaking?

One sailing vessel could be said to be approaching the other, but not the
other way round - they're both heading in the same direction, and the notion
of 'approach' rests in one travelling faster than the other.

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message

Tut tut! approaching one another means 'to move nearer to.'

It cannot be denied that the two vessels are moving nearer
to one another when they are approaching one another.
Relative speeds of the vessels does not matter.

If you are trying to run away from a gun nut who's running faster than you,
it cannot be said that you are 'approaching' him.

"Wally" wrote in message k...
"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message

Tut tut! approaching one another means 'to move nearer to.'

It cannot be denied that the two vessels are moving nearer
to one another when they are approaching one another.
Relative speeds of the vessels does not matter.

If you are trying to run away from a gun nut who's running faster than you,
it cannot be said that you are 'approaching' him.

But you can say you are approaching one another which is how the rule is worded . . .

CN

Crappy,

It is known as the "Luffing Rule" and it does apply to sailing vessels.

Ole Thom


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