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Scout December 22nd 04 08:48 AM

you do realize of course that Capote was Scout's childhood friend, portrayed
as Dill in 'to kill a mockingbird'?
co-ink-a-dink?
Scout

"Maxprop" wrote in message
nk.net...

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"Scout" wrote in message

Hi Thom,
Berks County (not too far from Scotty); still teaching; I teach in
Montgomery County, never taught at Truman (I graduated from there
though, before it was called Truman).

Harry S. or Capote?


whichever one dropped those bombs


Ah, that would be Truman Capote.

Max




Scout December 22nd 04 08:50 AM

yes; there are Woodrow Wilson High Schools all over the place.
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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I suppose this is a different 'Wilson " than the one in Berks Co.?

Scotty


"Scout" wrote in message
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"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
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My son graduaed from there, when it was Wilson. 1969
ot


I didn't realize you had roots here Thom. I graduated Wilson in 74.
Small world.
Scout







katysails December 22nd 04 12:17 PM

Then we surely must have gone ashore for something...

"Maxprop" wrote in message
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"katysails" wrote in message

If we were aboard, the dinghy would have been floating off the back...we
might have rowed in to go to the store or something...too bad...next time
give us a holler....you guys are always welcome...


We couldn't tell if there was a dink on the opposite side of the boat. As
I mentioned we were pretty far off and too lazy (or too polite) to get out
the binocs and spy on y'all. We figured if someone peeked up through the
companionway we'd row over and say hi. No one showed, so perhaps you guys
had gone ashore for something. Perhaps the most telling thing was that
Nik didn't bark, and she always barks if she senses a dog anywhere within
a mile when on the water.

Max




DSK December 22nd 04 02:21 PM

Well duh...who can afford all that diesel?


Maxprop wrote:
A single engine trawler, such as a Nordhavn 43 running at 8 kts., is
relatively economical to operate compared with, say, a semi-displacement
trawler, such as a Grand Banks 42 with twin 3208 Cats running at 14kts.
Then again I buy roughly $40 of diesel per annum.


Well, if you doubled... or quadrupled... that, would it be a major
expense factor? You'd have to cruise at least half time or more
(depending on the boat, I don't think of Nordhavens as particularly
fuel-efficient) to spend on fuel what you already spend on insurance and
taxes. Add in a full-time slip, and fuel becomes almost trivial.

I can tell you this- for what sails & running rigging cost, I can cruise
a long long way in our trawler. We've spent approx $150 on fuel this
year, making 2 cruises of 300+ miles plus going out almost every
weekend, and we've still got more than 1/2 full tanks... which is good,
because now we're running the heater almost full time...

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Scott Vernon December 22nd 04 02:45 PM


"Maxprop" wrote
Then again I buy roughly $40 of diesel per annum.


I bought $21,000 worth last year.

Sc otty



Maxprop December 22nd 04 05:21 PM


"JG" wrote in message

What's the matter Max, getting upset again?


Don't ascribe your emotions to those of other posters. You're not capable
of making me upset. Bored, perhaps, but not angry.

Max



Maxprop December 22nd 04 05:25 PM


"Scout" wrote in message

yes; there are Woodrow Wilson High Schools all over the place.
Scout


Oh, that's what *Wilson* they were named after. I was almost positive it
was Tim The-tool-man Taylor's next door neighbor after whom they were named.

Max



Maxprop December 22nd 04 05:55 PM


"DSK" wrote in message

Well duh...who can afford all that diesel?



Maxprop wrote:
A single engine trawler, such as a Nordhavn 43 running at 8 kts., is
relatively economical to operate compared with, say, a semi-displacement
trawler, such as a Grand Banks 42 with twin 3208 Cats running at 14kts.
Then again I buy roughly $40 of diesel per annum.


Well, if you doubled... or quadrupled... that, would it be a major expense
factor?


No, but $160 won't take you far in even a 35' CWB with a single Ford Lehman
135. We didn't cruise much this past year--no time and ****ty weather--but
still logged around 400 miles, mostly under power. The CWB would have
racked up a $250 diesel bill with the same distance at 8 kts. My friend's
35 CWB with twin 125 Lehmans burns about half a gallon per mile, and another
friend with a similar wood trawler with a single 135 Lehman burns about 1/4
gallon per mile. My boat gets about 8-10 miles per gallon, depending upon
wind and if assisted by sail.

You'd have to cruise at least half time or more (depending on the boat, I
don't think of Nordhavens as particularly fuel-efficient) to spend on fuel
what you already spend on insurance and taxes. Add in a full-time slip,
and fuel becomes almost trivial.


Insurance: approx. $400 for my 34' Sea Sprite, taxes: approx. $60 per
year, not including fuel taxes or sales tax. Grand total of $500, including
fuel expense. If I cruised half the time, I'd have well over 2000 miles in
the trawler, and no trawler I'm familiar with can travel that distance on
$500. More like $1250. And why aren't Nordhavn's fuel efficient? A
Nordhavn 40 with a 140 Lugger or a 101 John Deere and 920 gallons of diesel
can cross the Atlantic, or travel roughly 2750 miles without refueling. Try
that in a Grand Banks with a pair of 3208s, not that GBs are offshore boats
by any stretch.

I can tell you this- for what sails & running rigging cost, I can cruise a
long long way in our trawler.


This is a typical obfuscation of the argument when powerboaters attempt to
compare costs with sailors. No one denies that both types of boats have
expenses, albeit quite different ones. The net costs typically average out
between the two types of boats of similar length and displacement. It's
*pay me now or pay me later.* But we were discussing fuel costs. Period.
And it wasn't my intent to denigrate powerboats or trawlers.

We've spent approx $150 on fuel this year, making 2 cruises of 300+ miles
plus going out almost every weekend, and we've still got more than 1/2 full
tanks... which is good, because now we're running the heater almost full
time...


What type of boat do you have? What power? Sounds quite economical, unless
you only run at 6 or so knots.

Max



Maxprop December 22nd 04 05:56 PM


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message


"Maxprop" wrote
Then again I buy roughly $40 of diesel per annum.


I bought $21,000 worth last year.


You really need to repower, Scoot. That 10,000 shp turbine is gonna
bankrupt you one o' these days.

Max



Maxprop December 22nd 04 06:13 PM


OzOne wrote in message

On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 05:05:47 GMT, "Maxprop"
scribbled thusly:


"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message


I'd have to bring my own boat. Sailing in a storm on an inferior
French boat would frighten me to death . . .


No fan of the Frogs, I have to admit they build some pretty nice boats.
Nothing like the Americans, Canadians, Brits, Fins, or Swedes, mind you,
but
good vessels nonetheless.

Max


That's got to be among the most ridiculous statements ever made here.
Dufour is one of the most respected names in yachting, as is Wauquiez,
Lagoon,Wanda,Multiplast, and yes, even Kirie and Jeanneau!


Of those you list, Henri Wauquiez is far and away the best builder. Dufour,
Lagoon, and the others are Beneteau/Jeanneau-quality boats. Michael Dufour,
for example, markets boats here on the same price points as Beneteau and
Jeanneau.

That said, HW can't touch Henry Hinckley, Tom Morris, Shannon, Pacific
Seacraft, Kanter, Oyster, Moody, Nautor, Baltic, or Hallberg Rassey in terms
of construction quality, design, or longevity. Nothing ridiculous about it.
The frog boats aren't bad, but not up to the standards of the ones I named.
And you know it.

Max




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