As bad as the Harleys are, I stopped in at the (West Chester) Indian Shop to
look over the new models. 2 of them were dripping oil on the showroom floor!
I did like the belt drives though.
Scout

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Ok big mouth, tell us what American bike he could have bought in 1975
for that kind of money.

Tell us which American bike he could have bought that weighs less than
2 tons.

Tell us which American bike he could have bought in '75 that had the
same performance as his S380.

SV


wrote in message
...
On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 15:02:48 -0500, Capt. Neal®

wrote:


You are such a dope. A motorcycle made in 1975 in Japan has nothing
to do with Pearl Harbor.


Yeah - why buy American? Everybody should be asking themselves that
question. Especially those claiming to be patriots.


Besides, you Harley Davidson people are so stupid you don't even
realize more than half the part on your so-called American bike
are made in Japan, China, Taiwan, Mexico etc. There is no
such thing as an American motorcycle anymore.


I know that very well. However, I also know that the profits from
Harley stay here and go back into our own economy, while the profits
from your Suzuki went to Japan. All that did was make our balance of
trade worse. Meanwhile the Japs wouldn't let American farmers sell
rice in their country. **** you and all the anti-American traitors
just like you!

I bet John Wayne and Ronald Reagan never rode a Suzuki!

Have yourself another cup of rice, traitor!

BB


CN

wrote in message
...
On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 14:46:13 -0500,


Says the dope who has been boasting all day about his Japanese
motorcycle and how he thinks it can whip any American motorcycle.

What a fine way to observe PEARL HARBOR DAY.

BB

"Scout" wrote
As bad as the Harleys are, .....
grin
I still have a 1990 FLHTC I bought new. It'd been 92,000 miles when it
cracked a valve guide in 110 deg heat in NV but it went on to LA then back
to VA where the Dealer replaced the heads under warranty. Next year the
stator died in Four Corners but since I could turn the headlight off I rode
it to Flagstaff, where it was fixed that morning, and when I got back to VA
the dealer replaced both engine cases - including all the lower end
bearings - free, under warranty. It now has about 200,000 miles on it. I
replaced the belt and sprockets at 135,000, rear tyres every 12,000, fronts
half as often, and changed oil and filters and used a gallon of gas every 40
miles.Valve adjustments? $400/10,000mi on rice but never needed on H-Ds.

By contrast a buddy bought a new RZ-350 just like mine but never got to ride
it cuz it seized and the dealer kept it over a year waiting for pistons. Had
plenty of oversizes but no stockers and Yamahahaha said no rebore - had to
fix it right no matter how long that took!! He sold it 'as is' and took a
bath. Tell him how wunnerful your ricer is but watch out, he mastered in
both rifle and pistol.

Similarly, my new R1100RT BM ran like crap so I blew $700 (IIRC) on a major
service that didn't help. Wrench said it needed a minor adjustment (0=0 for
y'all BMrs) but it'd void my warranty. Happened to about 1 in 10 bike but
BMW NA's position was that I had the finest bike in the world and should be
happy even if it didn't run. Ditto the chrome coming off my R1100C and the
goofy wear that ruins $125+ front tyres every 4-5000 miles and ... and ....

Did I mention that I can still get parts for most any H-D and Brit, even
'new' Amal carbs, but not brake parts for an original CB750 Honda ... or
that many BMW dealers don't work on "vintage" (R100) BMWs from " back in the
80s" anymore?

That's why my 1990 H-D still has a home while others have come and gone. It
shares a garage with my Oilfield and wife's bikes: a 112 HP Kaw 600, a '79
Bunnyville, a 1200 Sporty, a BSA 250 that Dick Mann built for 'Smiley'
Cameron and he gave her, and a mid-60s F3 bike (Yammy 125 in Van Tech). She
rarely lets me ride them cuz I totaled her new Triumph 1200 last year. I had
to sell my 1200 Kaw and ST-2 Duc cuz I my neck can't hack the position since
that crash (No! Not old age! I'm in denial). Lost $1000s on each of them but
my old hog is till worth the same $$$ I paid for it back in '89. Remind me
to ride it down to the boat Saturday ....

BTW the reason older H-Ds leaked was that their Automatic Chain Oilers were
maladjusted but y'all knowed that right?

When you were in the 4 corners did you notice the miles and miles and miles
of booze bottles on the sides of the road? Tell me you didn't drive through
the reservation at night.

Amen!

Bob Crantz


"Vito" wrote in message
...
"Scout" wrote
As bad as the Harleys are, .....
grin
I still have a 1990 FLHTC I bought new. It'd been 92,000 miles when it
cracked a valve guide in 110 deg heat in NV but it went on to LA then back
to VA where the Dealer replaced the heads under warranty. Next year the
stator died in Four Corners but since I could turn the headlight off I
rode
it to Flagstaff, where it was fixed that morning, and when I got back to
VA
the dealer replaced both engine cases - including all the lower end
bearings - free, under warranty. It now has about 200,000 miles on it. I
replaced the belt and sprockets at 135,000, rear tyres every 12,000,
fronts
half as often, and changed oil and filters and used a gallon of gas every
40
miles.Valve adjustments? $400/10,000mi on rice but never needed on H-Ds.

By contrast a buddy bought a new RZ-350 just like mine but never got to
ride
it cuz it seized and the dealer kept it over a year waiting for pistons.
Had
plenty of oversizes but no stockers and Yamahahaha said no rebore - had to
fix it right no matter how long that took!! He sold it 'as is' and took a
bath. Tell him how wunnerful your ricer is but watch out, he mastered in
both rifle and pistol.

Similarly, my new R1100RT BM ran like crap so I blew $700 (IIRC) on a
major
service that didn't help. Wrench said it needed a minor adjustment (0=0
for
y'all BMrs) but it'd void my warranty. Happened to about 1 in 10 bike but
BMW NA's position was that I had the finest bike in the world and should
be
happy even if it didn't run. Ditto the chrome coming off my R1100C and
the
goofy wear that ruins $125+ front tyres every 4-5000 miles and ... and
.....

Did I mention that I can still get parts for most any H-D and Brit, even
'new' Amal carbs, but not brake parts for an original CB750 Honda ... or
that many BMW dealers don't work on "vintage" (R100) BMWs from " back in
the
80s" anymore?

That's why my 1990 H-D still has a home while others have come and gone.
It
shares a garage with my Oilfield and wife's bikes: a 112 HP Kaw 600, a '79
Bunnyville, a 1200 Sporty, a BSA 250 that Dick Mann built for 'Smiley'
Cameron and he gave her, and a mid-60s F3 bike (Yammy 125 in Van Tech).
She
rarely lets me ride them cuz I totaled her new Triumph 1200 last year. I
had
to sell my 1200 Kaw and ST-2 Duc cuz I my neck can't hack the position
since
that crash (No! Not old age! I'm in denial). Lost $1000s on each of them
but
my old hog is till worth the same $$$ I paid for it back in '89. Remind me
to ride it down to the boat Saturday ....

BTW the reason older H-Ds leaked was that their Automatic Chain Oilers
were
maladjusted but y'all knowed that right?

Harley Davidson riders are among the most feeble minded
people in the world and Vito proves it with his justifying
the many Harley major breakdowns on the basis that
parts are available. Of course parts are available.
There would be NO Harleys on the road if this were
not the case.

CN


"Bob Crantz" wrote in message ink.net...
When you were in the 4 corners did you notice the miles and miles and miles
of booze bottles on the sides of the road? Tell me you didn't drive through
the reservation at night.

Amen!

Bob Crantz


"Vito" wrote in message
...
"Scout" wrote
As bad as the Harleys are, .....
grin
I still have a 1990 FLHTC I bought new. It'd been 92,000 miles when it
cracked a valve guide in 110 deg heat in NV but it went on to LA then back
to VA where the Dealer replaced the heads under warranty. Next year the
stator died in Four Corners but since I could turn the headlight off I
rode
it to Flagstaff, where it was fixed that morning, and when I got back to
VA
the dealer replaced both engine cases - including all the lower end
bearings - free, under warranty. It now has about 200,000 miles on it. I
replaced the belt and sprockets at 135,000, rear tyres every 12,000,
fronts
half as often, and changed oil and filters and used a gallon of gas every
40
miles.Valve adjustments? $400/10,000mi on rice but never needed on H-Ds.

By contrast a buddy bought a new RZ-350 just like mine but never got to
ride
it cuz it seized and the dealer kept it over a year waiting for pistons.
Had
plenty of oversizes but no stockers and Yamahahaha said no rebore - had to
fix it right no matter how long that took!! He sold it 'as is' and took a
bath. Tell him how wunnerful your ricer is but watch out, he mastered in
both rifle and pistol.

Similarly, my new R1100RT BM ran like crap so I blew $700 (IIRC) on a
major
service that didn't help. Wrench said it needed a minor adjustment (0=0
for
y'all BMrs) but it'd void my warranty. Happened to about 1 in 10 bike but
BMW NA's position was that I had the finest bike in the world and should
be
happy even if it didn't run. Ditto the chrome coming off my R1100C and
the
goofy wear that ruins $125+ front tyres every 4-5000 miles and ... and
....

Did I mention that I can still get parts for most any H-D and Brit, even
'new' Amal carbs, but not brake parts for an original CB750 Honda ... or
that many BMW dealers don't work on "vintage" (R100) BMWs from " back in
the
80s" anymore?

That's why my 1990 H-D still has a home while others have come and gone.
It
shares a garage with my Oilfield and wife's bikes: a 112 HP Kaw 600, a '79
Bunnyville, a 1200 Sporty, a BSA 250 that Dick Mann built for 'Smiley'
Cameron and he gave her, and a mid-60s F3 bike (Yammy 125 in Van Tech).
She
rarely lets me ride them cuz I totaled her new Triumph 1200 last year. I
had
to sell my 1200 Kaw and ST-2 Duc cuz I my neck can't hack the position
since
that crash (No! Not old age! I'm in denial). Lost $1000s on each of them
but
my old hog is till worth the same $$$ I paid for it back in '89. Remind me
to ride it down to the boat Saturday ....

BTW the reason older H-Ds leaked was that their Automatic Chain Oilers
were
maladjusted but y'all knowed that right?

On Wed, 8 Dec 2004 17:47:46 -0500, Capt. Neal®
wrote this crap:

Harley Davidson riders are among the most feeble minded
people in the world and Vito proves it with his justifying
the many Harley major breakdowns on the basis that
parts are available. Of course parts are available.


People who can't afford Harleys are always the most jealous. My lawn
tractor is worth more than your crappy Soo-sucky.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message
...
Harley Davidson riders are among the most feeble minded
people in the world and Vito proves it with his justifying
the many Harley major breakdowns on the basis that
parts are available. Of course parts are available.
There would be NO Harleys on the road if this were
not the case.

I'd be offended if you weren't so feeble minded that you cannot comprehend
what you read.

I don't know of "the many Harley breakdowns" you run on about and suspect
you heard all about them from people who never owned a Harley.

My 15 year old H-D crossed the country a dozen times, did any number of 1000
mile days, racked up over 200,000 miles and never ever left me stranded. It
never HAD a major breakdown. After 90+ 000 miles it went from zero oil
consumption to a quart every 2000 miles, but ran fine and H-D fixed it free.
10-15000 mikes later it quit charging, a problem Hondas have every 10,000
miles, so I rode it to a nearby dealer where it was fixed for free. While
fixing it he found a porous spot on an engine case that'd caused no problem
for over 100,000 miles but when I got home my dealer replaced the cases and
all the lower end bearings, again for free. I find that remarkable.

I have owned and enjoyed 3 or 4 of every brand of rice plus BSAs, Triumphs
and Enfields, a dozen BMWs, and a Ducati. They have all been good bikes,
each in its own way, but not one has given me any better service than my
many H-Ds.

"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
ink.net...
When you were in the 4 corners did you notice the miles and miles and
miles
of booze bottles on the sides of the road?

Naw, being from VA trash is too common to notice )c:. But I loved being
buzzed by flocks of Navaho teens on fast 600s - Crazy Horse lives, just on
an iron steed.

"Vito" wrote in message


Similarly, my new R1100RT BM ran like crap so I blew $700 (IIRC) on a
major
service that didn't help. Wrench said it needed a minor adjustment (0=0
for
y'all BMrs) but it'd void my warranty. Happened to about 1 in 10 bike but
BMW NA's position was that I had the finest bike in the world and should
be
happy even if it didn't run. Ditto the chrome coming off my R1100C and
the
goofy wear that ruins $125+ front tyres every 4-5000 miles and ... and
.....

So you have the infamous BMW "surge" that BMW corporate denies even exists,
eh. So does my R1150RT. The local wrench did a fine job of minimizing it
without resorting to the Rob Lentini mod. (0-0, as you say) but it's still
there. To boot, BMW rearended my local dealership and ran them out of
business, so now we have no official BMW service here now. The wrench went
independent, and I use him for most things, but it's so damned typical of
BMW corporate to screw over its long-time customers. Hate the *******s, and
I've bought my last BMW bike.

Good luck with your bike, and do the Lentini mod, now that it's out of
warranty. The mod works perfectly, albeit the fuel economy drops a little
and the emissions get slightly dirtier. (Only Mr. Ganz will get his panties
in a wad over that.)

Max

What is the Lentini mod? And what is 0-0 ?

Scotty
'77 R100S

"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...


So you have the infamous BMW "surge" that BMW corporate denies even
exists,
eh. So does my R1150RT. The local wrench did a fine job of
minimizing it
without resorting to the Rob Lentini mod. (0-0, as you say) but it's
still
there. To boot, BMW rearended my local dealership and ran them out
of
business, so now we have no official BMW service here now. The
wrench went
independent, and I use him for most things, but it's so damned
typical of
BMW corporate to screw over its long-time customers. Hate the
*******s, and
I've bought my last BMW bike.

Good luck with your bike, and do the Lentini mod, now that it's out
of
warranty. The mod works perfectly, albeit the fuel economy drops a
little
and the emissions get slightly dirtier. (Only Mr. Ganz will get his
panties
in a wad over that.)

Max

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
What is the Lentini mod? And what is 0-0 ?

Scotty
'77 R100S

Not to worry on your R100s. BM buys fuel injection systems pre-calibrated
from Italy for their R1100/1200 models. They have a simple pot (variable
resistor) on the throttle shaft that tells the computer how far open the
throttle is. About 1 in 10 of these are off a tad making the bike run
crappy. Bob Lentini's "mod" is simply to reposition of the pot with the
throttle closed so it sends the right 'closed' voltage to the computer like
it is supposed to do and does on most BMs. But the adjustment screws have
"tell tale" paint installed in Italy that perforce gets broken during this
fix so BMW calls it a "unauthorize modification". Replacing the $10/apiece
spark plugs with cheap US ones finishes the job.