Remember the guy who got on a plane with a bomb built into his shoe and
tried to light it?

Did you know his trial is over?

Did you know he was sentenced?

Did you see/hear any of the judge's comments on TV/Radio?

Didn't think so.

Everyone should hear what the judge had to say.

Ruling by Judge William Young U.S. District Court.

Prior to sentencing, the Judge asked the defendant if he had anything to
say.

His response: After admitting his guilt to the court for the record, Reid
also admitted his "allegiance to Osama bin Laden, to Islam, and to the
religion of Allah," defiantly stated "I think I ought not apologize for my
actions," and told the court "I am at war with your country."
Judge Young then delivered the statement quoted below, a stinging
condemnation of Reid in particular and terrorists in general.
January 30, 2003 United States vs. Reid. Judge Young: Mr. Richard C. Reid,
hearken now to the sentence the Court imposes upon you. On counts 1, 5 and
6 the Court sentences you to life in prison in the custody of the United
States Attorney General. On counts 2, 3, 4 and 7, the Court sentences you
to 20 years in prison on each count, the sentence on each count to run
consecutive with the other.

That's 80 years. On count 8 the Court sentences you to the mandatory 30
years consecutive to the 80 years just imposed. The Court imposes upon you
each of the eight counts a fine of $250,000 for the aggregate fine of $2
million. The Court accepts the government's recommendation with respect to
restitution and orders restitution in the amount of $298.17 to Andre
Bousquet and $5,784 to American Airlines. The Court imposes upon you the
$800 special assessment.

The Court imposes upon you five years supervised release simply because
the law requires it. But the life sentences are real life sentences so I
need go no further. This is the sentence that is provided for by our
statutes. It is a fair and just sentence. It is a righteous sentence. Let
me explain this to you. We are not afraid of you or any of your terrorist
co-conspirators, Mr. Reid. We are Americans We have been through the fire
before. There is all too much war talk here. And I say that to everyone
with the utmost respect. Here in this court, where we deal with
individuals as individuals, and care for individuals as individuals. As
human beings, we reach out for justice.

You are not an enemy combatant. You are a terrorist. You are not a soldier
in any war. You are a terrorist. To give you that reference, to call you a
soldier, gives you far too much stature. Whether it is the officers of
government who do it or your attorney who does it, or that happens to be
your view, you are a terrorist. And we do not negotiate with terrorists.
We do not treat with terrorists. We do not sign documents with terrorists.
We hunt them down one by one and bring them to justice.

So war talk is way out of line in this court. You are a big fellow. But
you are not that big. You're no warrior. I know warriors. You are a
terrorist. A species of criminal guilty of multiple attempted murders. In
a very real sense, State Trooper Santiago had it right when you first were
taken off that plane and into custody and you wondered where the press and
where the TV crews were, and he said you're no big deal.

You're no big deal.

What your counsel, what your able counsel and what the equally able United
States attorneys have grappled with and what I have as honestly as I know
how tried to grapple with, is why you did something so horrific. What was
it that led you here to this courtroom today?

I have listened respectfully to what you have to say. And I ask you to
search your heart and ask yourself what sort of unfathomable hate led you
to do what you are guilty and admit you are guilty of doing. And I have an
answer for you. It may not satisfy you. But as I search this entire
record, it comes as close to understanding as I know.

It seems to me you hate the one thing that is most precious. You hate our
freedom. Our individual freedom. Our individual freedom to live as we
choose, to come and go as we choose, to believe or not believe as we
individually choose. Here, in this society, the very winds carry freedom.
They carry it everywhere from sea to shining sea. It is because we prize
individual freedom so much that you are here in this beautiful courtroom.
So that everyone can see, truly see that justice is administered fairly,
individually, and discretely. It is for freedom's sake that your lawyers
are striving so vigorously on your behalf and have filed appeals, will go
on in their representation of you before other judges.

We are about it. Because we all know that the way we treat you, Mr. Reid,
is the measure of our own liberties. Make no mistake though. It is yet
true that we will bare any burden; pay any price, to preserve our
freedoms. Look around this courtroom. Mark it well. The world is not going
to long remember what you or I say here. Day after tomorrow it will be
forgotten. But this, however, will long endure Here in this courtroom and
courtrooms all across America, the American people will gather to see that
justice, individual justice, justice,not war, individual justice is in
fact being done. The very President of the United States through his
officers will have to come into courtrooms and lay out evidence on which
specific matters can be judged, and juries of citizens will gather to sit
and judge that evidence democratically, to mold and shape and refine our
sense of justice.

See that flag, Mr. Reid? That's the flag of the United States of America.
That flag will fly there long after this is all forgotten. That flag
stands for freedom. You know it always will.

Mr. Custody Officer. Stand him down.

So, how much of this Judge's comments did we hear on our TV sets? We need
more judges like Judge Young, but that's another subject. Pass this
around. Everyone should and needs to hear what this fine judge had to say.

Powerful words that strike home.

God bless America

In article ,
says...
Remember the guy who got on a plane with a bomb built into his shoe and
tried to light it?

Did you know his trial is over?

Did you know he was sentenced?

Did you see/hear any of the judge's comments on TV/Radio?

Didn't think so.

Everyone should hear what the judge had to say.

We don't all watch the nightly news and then have our last beer and
cigarette.

Some of us actually read, unlike our leader. I seriously doubt the
President of the United States has read this most eloquent speech, nor
any of his cabinet.

I'm sure the Bush folk would consider him just another "activist judge."

jps

On Thu, 5 Aug 2004 17:42:36 -0700, jps wrote:

In article ,
says...
Remember the guy who got on a plane with a bomb built into his shoe and
tried to light it?

Did you know his trial is over?

Did you know he was sentenced?

Did you see/hear any of the judge's comments on TV/Radio?

Didn't think so.

Everyone should hear what the judge had to say.

We don't all watch the nightly news and then have our last beer and
cigarette.

Some of us actually read, unlike our leader. I seriously doubt the
President of the United States has read this most eloquent speech, nor
any of his cabinet.

I'm sure the Bush folk would consider him just another "activist judge."

jps

A good liberal judge would have exiled him to Cancun with a measly yearly
stipend of $200,000 per year. Now that would be justice eh?

In article ,
says...
On Thu, 5 Aug 2004 17:42:36 -0700, jps wrote:

In article ,
says...
Remember the guy who got on a plane with a bomb built into his shoe and
tried to light it?

Did you know his trial is over?

Did you know he was sentenced?

Did you see/hear any of the judge's comments on TV/Radio?

Didn't think so.

Everyone should hear what the judge had to say.

We don't all watch the nightly news and then have our last beer and
cigarette.

Some of us actually read, unlike our leader. I seriously doubt the
President of the United States has read this most eloquent speech, nor
any of his cabinet.

I'm sure the Bush folk would consider him just another "activist judge."

jps

A good liberal judge would have exiled him to Cancun with a measly yearly
stipend of $200,000 per year. Now that would be justice eh?

Watching a might too much Fear Factor?

On Thu, 5 Aug 2004 18:46:01 -0700, jps wrote:

In article ,
says...
On Thu, 5 Aug 2004 17:42:36 -0700, jps wrote:

In article ,
says...
Remember the guy who got on a plane with a bomb built into his shoe and
tried to light it?

Did you know his trial is over?

Did you know he was sentenced?

Did you see/hear any of the judge's comments on TV/Radio?

Didn't think so.

Everyone should hear what the judge had to say.

We don't all watch the nightly news and then have our last beer and
cigarette.

Some of us actually read, unlike our leader. I seriously doubt the
President of the United States has read this most eloquent speech, nor
any of his cabinet.

I'm sure the Bush folk would consider him just another "activist judge."

jps

A good liberal judge would have exiled him to Cancun with a measly yearly
stipend of $200,000 per year. Now that would be justice eh?

Watching a might too much Fear Factor?

Naw, just know what liberals do.

JGS wrote:

On Thu, 5 Aug 2004 17:42:36 -0700, jps wrote:

In article ,
says...
Remember the guy who got on a plane with a bomb built into his shoe and
tried to light it?

Did you know his trial is over?

Did you know he was sentenced?

Did you see/hear any of the judge's comments on TV/Radio?

Didn't think so.

Everyone should hear what the judge had to say.

We don't all watch the nightly news and then have our last beer and
cigarette.

Some of us actually read, unlike our leader. I seriously doubt the
President of the United States has read this most eloquent speech, nor
any of his cabinet.

I'm sure the Bush folk would consider him just another "activist judge."

jps

A good liberal judge would have exiled him to Cancun with a measly yearly
stipend of $200,000 per year. Now that would be justice eh?


Did you escape the bag limit on right-wing retards?

--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002

In article ,
says...

A good liberal judge would have exiled him to Cancun with a measly yearly
stipend of $200,000 per year. Now that would be justice eh?

Watching a might too much Fear Factor?

Naw, just know what liberals do.

Do you have a mullet? You and Buck should probably get together for
some grits 'n beer.

On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 22:04:02 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

JGS wrote:

On Thu, 5 Aug 2004 17:42:36 -0700, jps wrote:

In article ,
says...
Remember the guy who got on a plane with a bomb built into his shoe and
tried to light it?

Did you know his trial is over?

Did you know he was sentenced?

Did you see/hear any of the judge's comments on TV/Radio?

Didn't think so.

Everyone should hear what the judge had to say.

We don't all watch the nightly news and then have our last beer and
cigarette.

Some of us actually read, unlike our leader. I seriously doubt the
President of the United States has read this most eloquent speech, nor
any of his cabinet.

I'm sure the Bush folk would consider him just another "activist judge."

jps

A good liberal judge would have exiled him to Cancun with a measly yearly
stipend of $200,000 per year. Now that would be justice eh?


Did you escape the bag limit on right-wing retards?

Nope. Plain old common sense. But then again, I don't own a 35 foot lobster
boat nor can I post to usenet all day long and tell everybody I was out
boating that day.

You're just an amazing asshole Harry.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JGS wrote:

On Thu, 5 Aug 2004 17:42:36 -0700, jps wrote:

In article ,
says...
Remember the guy who got on a plane with a bomb built into his shoe
and
tried to light it?

Did you know his trial is over?

Did you know he was sentenced?

Did you see/hear any of the judge's comments on TV/Radio?

Didn't think so.

Everyone should hear what the judge had to say.

We don't all watch the nightly news and then have our last beer and
cigarette.

Some of us actually read, unlike our leader. I seriously doubt the
President of the United States has read this most eloquent speech, nor
any of his cabinet.

I'm sure the Bush folk would consider him just another "activist judge."

jps

A good liberal judge would have exiled him to Cancun with a measly
yearly
stipend of $200,000 per year. Now that would be justice eh?


Did you escape the bag limit on right-wing retards?

--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002

There are some old pictures that paint the present.
Kerry and Fonda. Why is Fonda considered a traitor by most intellectual
citizens and Kerry is not? A better liar?

John Doe wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JGS wrote:

On Thu, 5 Aug 2004 17:42:36 -0700, jps wrote:

In article ,
says...
Remember the guy who got on a plane with a bomb built into his shoe
and
tried to light it?

Did you know his trial is over?

Did you know he was sentenced?

Did you see/hear any of the judge's comments on TV/Radio?

Didn't think so.

Everyone should hear what the judge had to say.

We don't all watch the nightly news and then have our last beer and
cigarette.

Some of us actually read, unlike our leader. I seriously doubt the
President of the United States has read this most eloquent speech, nor
any of his cabinet.

I'm sure the Bush folk would consider him just another "activist judge."

jps

A good liberal judge would have exiled him to Cancun with a measly
yearly
stipend of $200,000 per year. Now that would be justice eh?


Did you escape the bag limit on right-wing retards?

--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002

There are some old pictures that paint the present.
Kerry and Fonda. Why is Fonda considered a traitor by most intellectual
citizens and Kerry is not? A better liar?


Most "intellectual citizens" do not consider Jane Fonda anything other
than an extraordinarily talented actress who had some great roles (and a
few turkeys) in her career.

The war against Vietnam was an utter failure from virtually every
aspect, and had more people protested more vehementally earlier on, the
death toll might have been lower.

We got our butts handed to us in Vietnam, but apparently we didn't learn
the important lessons there.





--

--
"There's an old saying in Tennessee - I know it's in Texas, probably in
Tennessee - that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -
you can't get fooled again." -George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept.
17, 2002