A ****ing contest on whose swim ladder is the
highest?

Probably since according to the Boob anything that's bigger has to be better.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"

Express Yachts was founded by a few ex top C&C people who knew they could
build a better boat than C&C. They hired a top Canadian designer and built
better boats. Period.


BWAHAHAHAHA! Express FAILED. C&C remains one of the most respected builders of
the 70's and 80's. Most people and I do mean MOST never heard of Express.

RB

hey bob, how many times did C&C fail? How many
times did they go under? C&C of today is just a
name. There is no one in C&C today left over from
the 70's and 80's.
S.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
: Express Yachts was founded by a few ex top C&C
people who knew they could
: build a better boat than C&C. They hired a top
Canadian designer and built
: better boats. Period.
:
:
: BWAHAHAHAHA! Express FAILED. C&C remains one of
the most respected builders of
: the 70's and 80's. Most people and I do mean
MOST never heard of Express.
:
: RB

hey bob, how many times did C&C fail? How many
times did they go under?

Are you asking about failed boats like the Mega or financial troubles for C&C
in general.
Either way, C&C is a very famous builder, well respected for a great many
designs. Express was a spinoff that failed for a variety of reasons: Price was
one. Lines were another....I think the hard edges of the Express were too harsh
for many and while the Express looks C&Cish, I don't think it's as attractive.
Below decks C&C was doing a very nice job in the mid 80s and the Express did
not win over many people below decks, especially families.
If C&C was Happy Days, then Express was Joanie Loves Chachi. Or...If C&C was
Alice, then Express was Flo, or...if C&C was Sean Connery, then Express might
be Roger Moore...or...If Express was Picard, then you can bet that C&C is
certainly James T. Kirk.

There.


RB

Express was a spinoff that failed for a variety of reasons:

They failed when many others went under. S2, a highly regarded builder went
under at the same time. What was their problem? Nothing except the mid
eighties economy.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"

They failed when many others went under. S2, a highly regarded builder went
under at the same time. What was their problem? Nothing except the mid
eighties economy.

What a putz. I've heard this same story for a while. Are you sure that's all
that truly finished C&C? Why did Catalina survive?

RB

Yeah Nutsy,

Catalina survived. So did Hunter, and McGergor. Are you saying they're
better boat than your C&C?

OT

I think the hard edges of the Express were too harsh
for many and while the Express looks C&Cish, I don't think it's as attractive.
Below decks C&C was doing a very nice job in the mid 80s and the Express did
not win over many people below decks, especially families.

LOL............................ Where do you get this stuff???? Were you at
boat shows at the time interviewing people? I'd be willing to bet that in say
1984 Express sold more boats than C&C. Why don't you check that out.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"

see?


I don't think it's as attractive.
Below decks C&C was doing a very nice job in the mid 80s and the
Express did
not win over many people below decks, especially families and slip
queens.

see?

The Boobster is the guy the reps chuckle at at the boat show. He's the nitwit
that gets on every boat sticks his head down the companionway and blurts out
"how many will she sleep"
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"Trains are a winter sport"