We have plugs and duct tape/plastic onboard. The real joke is
the "emergency tiller." It would only take about 1/2 hour to get
the damn thing on. We tried it one day at the dock, what a joke.
(This was on a Yamaha 30.)

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www.sailnow.com

"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Maxprop wrote:
Obviously the plugs should be fairly soft, such as basswood, pine, or
soft
maple (which is actually a hardwood, but a softer one). But those woods
are
prone to rot, if allowed to remain damp for periods. Soak them in some
sort
of oil, such as linseed, before storing them. Or you can make them from
teak, but they'll be more difficult to keep in a thru-hull after driving
them in.

Frankly, I think duct tape and a trash bag is a lot more useful than a
plug. If a seacock breaks, it is unlikely to leave a nice neat round hole
to drive a plug in. But who am I to argue with age-old tradition?

DSK

Trying to remember the model of boat, but the emergency tiller was steered
from the aft cabin!!!!
John Cairns
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
We have plugs and duct tape/plastic onboard. The real joke is
the "emergency tiller." It would only take about 1/2 hour to get
the damn thing on. We tried it one day at the dock, what a joke.
(This was on a Yamaha 30.)

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Maxprop wrote:
Obviously the plugs should be fairly soft, such as basswood, pine, or
soft
maple (which is actually a hardwood, but a softer one). But those woods
are
prone to rot, if allowed to remain damp for periods. Soak them in some
sort
of oil, such as linseed, before storing them. Or you can make them from
teak, but they'll be more difficult to keep in a thru-hull after driving
them in.

Frankly, I think duct tape and a trash bag is a lot more useful than a
plug. If a seacock breaks, it is unlikely to leave a nice neat round hole
to drive a plug in. But who am I to argue with age-old tradition?

DSK

Isn't that the Caralina 34?
"John Cairns" wrote in message
om...
Trying to remember the model of boat, but the emergency tiller was steered
from the aft cabin!!!!
John Cairns
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
We have plugs and duct tape/plastic onboard. The real joke is
the "emergency tiller." It would only take about 1/2 hour to get
the damn thing on. We tried it one day at the dock, what a joke.
(This was on a Yamaha 30.)

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Maxprop wrote:
Obviously the plugs should be fairly soft, such as basswood, pine, or
soft
maple (which is actually a hardwood, but a softer one). But those
woods
are
prone to rot, if allowed to remain damp for periods. Soak them in
some
sort
of oil, such as linseed, before storing them. Or you can make them
from
teak, but they'll be more difficult to keep in a thru-hull after
driving
them in.

Frankly, I think duct tape and a trash bag is a lot more useful than a
plug. If a seacock breaks, it is unlikely to leave a nice neat round
hole
to drive a plug in. But who am I to argue with age-old tradition?

DSK

We sort of had to do that once on a Beneteau in BVI. The transmission
wouldn't
engage, so I had my friend head first in the engine compartment shifting
into forward
then out of gear for us. Loads of fun!

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"John Cairns" wrote in message
om...
Trying to remember the model of boat, but the emergency tiller was steered
from the aft cabin!!!!
John Cairns
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
We have plugs and duct tape/plastic onboard. The real joke is
the "emergency tiller." It would only take about 1/2 hour to get
the damn thing on. We tried it one day at the dock, what a joke.
(This was on a Yamaha 30.)

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Maxprop wrote:
Obviously the plugs should be fairly soft, such as basswood, pine, or
soft
maple (which is actually a hardwood, but a softer one). But those
woods are
prone to rot, if allowed to remain damp for periods. Soak them in some
sort
of oil, such as linseed, before storing them. Or you can make them
from
teak, but they'll be more difficult to keep in a thru-hull after
driving
them in.

Frankly, I think duct tape and a trash bag is a lot more useful than a
plug. If a seacock breaks, it is unlikely to leave a nice neat round
hole to drive a plug in. But who am I to argue with age-old tradition?

DSK

On Mon, 27 Sep 2004 19:38:09 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote this crap:

We sort of had to do that once on a Beneteau in BVI. The transmission
wouldn't
engage, so I had my friend head first in the engine compartment shifting
into forward
then out of gear for us. Loads of fun!


You had your friend giving you head on your gearshift? That's one of
the gayest posts you've ever had.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

In article ,
Horvath wrote:
My friend gave me head on my gearshift? That's one of
the gayest times I've ever had.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!


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http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

John Cairns wrote:
Trying to remember the model of boat, but the emergency tiller was steered
from the aft cabin!!!!

The O'Day 37 and Whitby 42 are like that... probably true of many
aft-cabin boats.

Emergency steering is a sore point on many boats. The emergency tiller
is difficult to connect, the connection is not as strong as it should be
(especially considering that it will most likely be used under strenuous
conditions), the tiller too short without enough mechanical advantage
(ditto parenthetical note above), and obstructions in the cockpit
prevent the emergency tiller from being swung thru a proper arc for
steering. For most boats, the emergency steering is a poor afterthought.

Serious racers are somewhat better in that regard, it's a requirement
for ORC Cat 1 & 2... wouldn't it be cool to require one race out of a
major series be held with all boats using emergency steering? It'd be an
eye-opener I bet.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Our e-tiller is a piece of iron tubing that fits on top of the ruffer post
that is capped off on the stern...if you had to, you could fit another pipe
into it to extend it, but you'd have to take the wheel off to make room....I
suppose we should try it once to see if it works (or how hard it works) but
I think we'll wait until the bad thing hits and we're forced to use
it...BTW...we have an aft cabin boat and it's not in the aft cabin....
"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
John Cairns wrote:
Trying to remember the model of boat, but the emergency tiller was
steered
from the aft cabin!!!!

The O'Day 37 and Whitby 42 are like that... probably true of many
aft-cabin boats.

Emergency steering is a sore point on many boats. The emergency tiller
is difficult to connect, the connection is not as strong as it should be
(especially considering that it will most likely be used under strenuous
conditions), the tiller too short without enough mechanical advantage
(ditto parenthetical note above), and obstructions in the cockpit
prevent the emergency tiller from being swung thru a proper arc for
steering. For most boats, the emergency steering is a poor afterthought.

Serious racers are somewhat better in that regard, it's a requirement
for ORC Cat 1 & 2... wouldn't it be cool to require one race out of a
major series be held with all boats using emergency steering? It'd be an
eye-opener I bet.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

..I
suppose we should try it once to see if it works (or how hard it works)


Ya think???!!!

RB