"Jonathan Ganz"
Maxprop wrote:
The current unemployment rate just dropped from 5.5% to 5.4%. The avg.
unemployment rate during the Clinton administration was 5.8%. Doesn't
wash.
People are beginning to tune Kerry out when he talks about the horrendous
unemployment rate. They don't believe him any more.

It's easy to cite facts but not the truth. Yes, the UER just dropped
0.1%. However, it was completely due to people dropping off the
employment rolls not due to job growth. 144K people found jobs. But
the economy needs about 150-200K to break even on job loss/job
creation.

Gotta agree with Jon on that one. Several friends, union electricians, have
been jobless for over two years! They don't show up in the figures because,
like 1000s of others, their unemployment benefits have ran out.

"Vito" wrote

Gotta agree with Jon on that one. Several friends, union
electricians, have
been jobless for over two years! They don't show up in the figures
because,
like 1000s of others, their unemployment benefits have ran out.


This has been my busiest year in the last 10 or more. I will end up
working 180 days this year, as opposed to my normal 110 day year.
Plus, my wife and both kids got jobs this year.

Scotty

Glad to hear it!

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

This has been my busiest year in the last 10 or more. I will end up
working 180 days this year, as opposed to my normal 110 day year.
Plus, my wife and both kids got jobs this year.

Scotty

We're all glad to hear it but that has nothing to do with the actual
stats. Many, many people are hurting because of Bush's policies.
And there was no reason for it.

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www.sailnow.com

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...

"Vito" wrote

Gotta agree with Jon on that one. Several friends, union
electricians, have
been jobless for over two years! They don't show up in the figures
because,
like 1000s of others, their unemployment benefits have ran out.


This has been my busiest year in the last 10 or more. I will end up
working 180 days this year, as opposed to my normal 110 day year.
Plus, my wife and both kids got jobs this year.

Scotty

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

We're all glad to hear it but that has nothing to do with the actual
stats. Many, many people are hurting because of Bush's policies.
And there was no reason for it.

Exactly what policies would those be?

Max

"Vito" wrote in message ...
"Jonathan Ganz"
Maxprop wrote:
The current unemployment rate just dropped from 5.5% to 5.4%. The avg.
unemployment rate during the Clinton administration was 5.8%. Doesn't
wash.
People are beginning to tune Kerry out when he talks about the horrendous
unemployment rate. They don't believe him any more.

It's easy to cite facts but not the truth. Yes, the UER just dropped
0.1%. However, it was completely due to people dropping off the
employment rolls not due to job growth. 144K people found jobs. But
the economy needs about 150-200K to break even on job loss/job
creation.

Gotta agree with Jon on that one. Several friends, union electricians, have
been jobless for over two years! They don't show up in the figures because,
like 1000s of others, their unemployment benefits have ran out.

Tell them to load of their trucks and head to Florida Alabama ect.
They can find all the work they can handle. But since they are union
guys that kind of work my not be worthy.

The job market is coming back ....slowley. The only thing I heard
Kerry say that I like is he want's to cut off tax breaks for companies
that are moving jobs overseas. However I can not find any tax breaks
anywhere on the books that pays to move jobs overseas. I do know
dumbass short sighted bean counters encourage that because in the
short run they can save tonns of money. In the long run it a
disasterious move for white collar positions.

Joe

On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 11:39:44 -0700, Joe wrote:



However I can not find any tax breaks
anywhere on the books that pays to move jobs overseas.

Overlook the part about tax deferred foreign profits?

http://www.interesting-people.org/ar.../msg00121.html

In article ,
thunder wrote:
On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 11:39:44 -0700, Joe wrote:



However I can not find any tax breaks
anywhere on the books that pays to move jobs overseas.

Overlook the part about tax deferred foreign profits?

http://www.interesting-people.org/ar.../msg00121.html

Joe overlooks a lot of things.


--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."

On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 18:00:33 -0400, thunder
wrote:

On Fri, 17 Sep 2004 11:39:44 -0700, Joe wrote:



However I can not find any tax breaks
anywhere on the books that pays to move jobs overseas.

Overlook the part about tax deferred foreign profits?

http://www.interesting-people.org/ar.../msg00121.html

What Joe meant to say was that he had not found any thing written on
the subject in Guns & Ammo or Hustler

"Vito" wrote in message


Several friends, union electricians, have
been jobless for over two years! They don't show up in the figures
because,
like 1000s of others, their unemployment benefits have ran out.

Union members waiting to be called up at the hiring halls comprise a
significant percentage of the total of unemployed skilled and semi-skilled
laborers. That's why my son-in-law discarded his union card and went to
work for a private company. Union labor is considered too costly by many
employers.

Max