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Vito September 16th 04 06:59 PM

"N1EE" wrote
Few people believe these are real documents. ....


.... or that chevy gas tanks spontaniously explode or that guns cause crime
or much else promulgated by the national media.


Kerry's campaign is dying. He has no issues.


You're right. If it wasn't for Bush Kerry wouldn't stand a chance. Bush
orchistrated the worst deficits ever, forbid stem cell research that'd save
1000s from miserable deaths, failed to catch Bin Ladin, mired us in a
quagmire worse than Vietnam and put our best students on Ritilan. Had he
done otherwise Kerry wouldn't stand a chance! Who knows what idiocy he'll
come up with next! Kerry could win yet, given Bush's record of disasters.



felton September 16th 04 07:11 PM

On Thu, 16 Sep 2004 13:59:56 -0400, "Vito" wrote:

"N1EE" wrote
Few people believe these are real documents. ....


... or that chevy gas tanks spontaniously explode or that guns cause crime
or much else promulgated by the national media.


Kerry's campaign is dying. He has no issues.


You're right. If it wasn't for Bush Kerry wouldn't stand a chance. Bush
orchistrated the worst deficits ever, forbid stem cell research that'd save
1000s from miserable deaths, failed to catch Bin Ladin, mired us in a
quagmire worse than Vietnam and put our best students on Ritilan. Had he
done otherwise Kerry wouldn't stand a chance! Who knows what idiocy he'll
come up with next! Kerry could win yet, given Bush's record of disasters.



Kind of pitiful, isn't it? I have always said that I will be voting
for gridlock. When one party controls everything, there seems to be
no compromise and, quite frankly, no good judgment. As I heard
someone say the other day on one of the programs, "with a two party
system, you are only one party away from totalitarianism." How true,
and, in effect, that is what we have when one party is completely in
charge...either party.


Jonathan Ganz September 16th 04 07:34 PM

In article ,
N1EE wrote:
I missed few physicals when I was in the Air Force. Why
don't you ask me why I missed them? I can't remember.


Did you have to resign your commission because of it?

Lets ask John Kerry why he committed attrocities in Vietnam.


Seems like a reasonable question.

Lets ask John Kerry why he does feel he needs to attend Congress
or committee meetings.


I think because he's a senator.

Lets ask to see his wife's tax return with her big investments
in Haliburton and Enron.


Fine. Let's ask Cheney too!

Lets ask who stands to benefit from these forged documents.


Good question, assuming they're forgeries. Either way, good question!

Could it be the DNC?


Doubtful.

Could it be the Clintons?


How's that? To sell more of their books?

Could it be John Kerry?


So he could be totally discredited if it came out? Hardly.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Jonathan Ganz September 16th 04 07:37 PM

In article ,
N1EE wrote:
Few people believe these are real documents. Even
the experts have disengaged from that view. 60
minutes avoided interviewing anyone with views
contrary to their own viewpoint. It was not good
journalism.


Few people believe you're a man, but we don't hold that against you.

Even if you believe only the evidence that supports
this, and don't believe any of the other evidence
against it. It still is such a tiny issue that I
have to laugh that anyone takes in seriously.


Just like what Kerry did or didn't do 35 years ago?

Kerry's campaign is dying. He has no issues. His


In fact, his issues about the economy, the war, etc. need to be
talked about.

Finally, I think the Clintons are working to undermine
Kerry.


Hahaha... talk about conspiracy theories!

GWB is a man who stand for something and has a position
and morals.


He stand for corruption and illegitimacy.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Michael September 17th 04 01:18 AM

I haven't watched 60 minutes since they intentionally lied about life in the
old Panama Canal Zone back 25 years ago. We knew they had been provided
factual information so it wasn't unintentional distortion but intentional
lies. Since then every time they have bashed something or someone I have
always thought, "if 60 minutes is against them . .they can't be ALL bad."
This isn't anything new . .. . .but this time we have other sources of
information and sources of 'journalism' rather than distorted propaganda.
Wonder what the former major media are going to do now? The unemployment
line is thataway!!!!

M.

Now for the whiny litany of "I suppose you listen to . . . .and the
standard knee jerk regurgiatated laundry list of whomevers." Thankfully
you will never get it. You gotta have a mind before you can waste it.





"N1EE" wrote in message
om...
I missed few physicals when I was in the Air Force. Why
don't you ask me why I missed them? I can't remember.

Lets ask John Kerry why he committed attrocities in Vietnam.

Lets ask John Kerry why he does feel he needs to attend Congress
or committee meetings.

Lets ask to see his wife's tax return with her big investments
in Haliburton and Enron.

Lets ask who stands to benefit from these forged documents.

Could it be the DNC?
Could it be the Clintons?
Could it be John Kerry?


(Jonathan Ganz) wrote

John Deere wrote:
'60 Minutes' Documents on Bush Might Be Fake
By Robert B. Bluey
CNSNews.com Staff Writer
September 09, 2004

(CNSNews.com) - The 32-year-old documents produced Wednesday by the CBS
News program "60 Minutes," shedding a negative light on President

Bush's
service in the Texas Air National Guard, may have been forged using a
current word processing program, according to typography experts.


stupid, long for no reason post deleted

Interesting! I suppose you think this means that it was ok for Bush to
not show up for his physical. We're still waiting for him to tell us
why.




Jonathan Ganz September 17th 04 01:22 AM

In article ,
Michael wrote:
I haven't watched 60 minutes since they intentionally lied about life in the
old Panama Canal Zone back 25 years ago. We knew they had been provided
factual information so it wasn't unintentional distortion but intentional
lies. Since then every time they have bashed something or someone I have
always thought, "if 60 minutes is against them . .they can't be ALL bad."
This isn't anything new . .. . .but this time we have other sources of
information and sources of 'journalism' rather than distorted propaganda.
Wonder what the former major media are going to do now? The unemployment
line is thataway!!!!


Unfortunately, you're right about the unemployment line... but it's
getting so long that there's not much point in getting in it.

Now for the whiny litany of "I suppose you listen to . . . .and the
standard knee jerk regurgiatated laundry list of whomevers." Thankfully
you will never get it. You gotta have a mind before you can waste it.


Sounds like you've got something to work on...
--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


DSK September 17th 04 02:37 AM

Michael wrote:
.... Thankfully
you will never get it. You gotta have a mind before you can waste it.


you mean like, somebody who has been repeatedly given easily verifiable
facts about economic conditions during the Great Depression, and still
keeps spouting the same line of malarkey?

DSK


Jonathan Ganz September 17th 04 02:41 AM

In article ,
DSK wrote:
Michael wrote:
.... Thankfully
you will never get it. You gotta have a mind before you can waste it.


you mean like, somebody who has been repeatedly given easily verifiable
facts about economic conditions during the Great Depression, and still
keeps spouting the same line of malarkey?


Doug, you're not talking about Bush being the only president since
Herbert Hoover to have a net loss of jobs during his administration
are you?



--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."


Maxprop September 17th 04 04:59 AM


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

Unfortunately, you're right about the unemployment line... but it's
getting so long that there's not much point in getting in it.


The current unemployment rate just dropped from 5.5% to 5.4%. The avg.
unemployment rate during the Clinton administration was 5.8%. Doesn't wash.
People are beginning to tune Kerry out when he talks about the horrendous
unemployment rate. They don't believe him any more.

Max



Jonathan Ganz September 17th 04 07:00 AM

In article . net,
Maxprop wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

Unfortunately, you're right about the unemployment line... but it's
getting so long that there's not much point in getting in it.


The current unemployment rate just dropped from 5.5% to 5.4%. The avg.
unemployment rate during the Clinton administration was 5.8%. Doesn't wash.
People are beginning to tune Kerry out when he talks about the horrendous
unemployment rate. They don't believe him any more.


It's easy to cite facts but not the truth. Yes, the UER just dropped
0.1%. However, it was completely due to people dropping off the
employment rolls not due to job growth. 144K people found jobs. But
the economy needs about 150-200K to break even on job loss/job
creation.

--
Jonathan Ganz (j gan z @ $ail no w.c=o=m)
http://www.sailnow.com
"If there's no wind, row."



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