"DSK" wrote in message
| Well, that's not slow... OTOH what were the conditions, and what will
| the boat do under "normal" (meaning normal for the area and season)
| sailing conditions?

I'll have to check my logs.... but I remember mid twenties on windspeed and
a nice reach withboth headsails. We sailed by a Westsail 32 which was
crawling along as usual... but even they were surprised at our speed.
Minimal chop and shallow water with course changes to avoid the coral heads.


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| Performance Comparison
| Hull Speed Cabo Rico 38 7.33
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| Express 30 6.63
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| Well, that's to be expected when the CR 38 is more than 1/4 again as
| long... assuming that the boat will reach close to hull speed under
| normal sailing conditions.

I've found that it could.

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| Sail Area to Displacement Cabo Rico 38 20.05
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| Express 30 18.57
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| Now that's an interesting figure... the CR 38 has pretty decent sail area

I found the rig powerful and the vessel moved quickly.

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| Displacement to LWL Cabo Rico 38 359
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| Express 30 249
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| It's also got a much heavier "footprint." I'd be surprised if the CR 38
| got all that close to hull speed except under favorable conditions,
| whereas the Express 30 performs quite well under a wide variety of
| conditions.

I found it did rather well in most conditions including light airs of which
there were plenty during our charter time frame in April.


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| I think that off the wind, especially in choppy seas, the CR 38 would be
| faster... on a long passage it should be faster...
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| Yes... faster than the Express 30.
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| As I said under some conditions, it would be reasonable to expect that.
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| But for all-round sailing? Let me put it this way... PHRF rating
| committees think that the CR 38 is noticably slower than the Express
| 30... enough so that they would rarely be in the same class.

The definition of "all around sailing" is too wide a mark. I would not
entertain the Express as an all around sailing boat unless all around
denoted buoy racing and an occasional week-end in calm weather. Then again a
canoe with a sail and outrigger would be suitable for that purpose.
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| BTW the Cabo Rico 38 is a Mark Ellis design, right? He's noted for being
| able to design comfy boats that sail well... but he's not a magician!

I'm not certain of the designer.... I just know what impression the vessel
left me with... and had the opportunity to sail against several other larger
as well as smaller boats during our charter. It is indeed a very fast boat.

CM