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Captain Bly August 30th 04 02:30 PM

I was hoping you were on you last leg



FamilySailor August 30th 04 03:33 PM

My last boat???? I just sold my last boat! I now have my new boat!

I hope one day to be able to get a Mac 26'X...... Just kidding.... There was
a time when I wanted one, but I prefer something that is blue water capable.
Island Packet sounds good. If I were to decide to go small, the Flicka is
sweet for a 20' boat. But, I am thinking 30' -36' more or less. It needs to
be a boat that can be single-handed, roomy, stable, point exceptional well
and be reasonably fast. I have not found that boat yet. We are planning on
keeping our current boat for quite a while (10 years maybe) until the next
phase in out life, which will be preparing for retirement. I still like the
1983-85 hunter 345 and so does my wife. I hear bad input about them from
here though. They are set-up comfortable, fast, point well and can be single
handed. But for right now, I am busy sailing and kissing our new boat "26
Again!"

Sea Yawl,
John



FamilySailor August 30th 04 03:37 PM


"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
I won't be surprised when he proudly boasts that this devil baby of
his is just another sick troll.

The Troll probably ate a bad child and that is why he is sick......



Joe August 30th 04 03:39 PM

(Bobsprit) wrote in message ...
While many of us are happy with our current boats, we can easily see changes
and expectations that can't be met by our current boats. My next boat will be
36 feet long....after that I may go even larger.


Can't you make up your mind?


Nope. We might have another child


Can't you make up your mind?


and that could call for a larger boat.


Might not. If you had the proper boat to start with. I understand some
people can not figure out how to get the right boat when they want it,
so must scrimp and save and get by with what they can afford, and
thats why they take little safe steps.

I'm
just 41.


I'm just 42........So?



Why would I want to make up my mind when owning several more boats
will be a lot of fun?


Because having the right boat is more fun. Just admit it Bob, you
have no clue what the perfect boat is. You can not make up your mind.
But with such a limited understanding of boats and sea trails ect... I
can see why you feel the need to keep looking.

Joe


RB


Thom Stewart August 30th 04 03:49 PM

Nutsy,

I don't think you even know what a test sail is

You can't sail another boat as a test sail then buy a "Derelict" and say
you test sailed it. If that isn't a lie then you are kidding only
yourself.

Ole Thom


Bobsprit August 30th 04 04:27 PM

You can't sail another boat as a test sail then buy a "Derelict" and say
you test sailed it. If that isn't a lie then you are kidding only
yourself.


Thom, nice troll. But sadly (for you in this case) I did everything exactly
right.
16K...and here's the result...

http://hometown.aol.com/bobsprit/images/a6.jpg

Just lucky, I guess!!!!

RB

Scout August 30th 04 05:22 PM

Thanks for the links Thom, she looks great!
Scout

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Scout,

Try calling up ;

Ole Thom's Boat

I made up some pictures while I had her out of the water last summer for
"Nutsy"

I'll try to get some of the Pilothouse and inside helm

Ole Thom




Capt. Mooron August 30th 04 05:57 PM


"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
| Capt. Mooron wrote
|
| You've never been on a Cabo Rico 38.... then of course that's evident.
|
| Express 30?? Good Grief!
|
| You're saying a Cabo Rico 38 is faster than an Express 30?

Doug, I know you to be a man of numbers and stats... so I will provide the
table below from SailCalc... along with the fact that the Cabo Rico 38 is
the fastest cruiser I have sailed on. We averaged 11 knots over Yellow Banks
in the Bahamas on one.

As Follows

Performance Comparison LOA Cabo Rico 38 38

Express 30 30

LWL Cabo Rico 38 29.9

Express 30 24.5

Beam Cabo Rico 38 11.6

Express 30 10

Displacement Cabo Rico 38 21500

Express 30 8200

Sail Area Cabo Rico 38 969

Express 30 472

Capsize Ratio Cabo Rico 38 1.67

Express 30 1.98

Hull Speed Cabo Rico 38 7.33

Express 30 6.63

Sail Area to Displacement Cabo Rico 38 20.05

Express 30 18.57

Displacement to LWL Cabo Rico 38 359

Express 30 249

LWL to Beam Cabo Rico 38 2.58

Express 30 2.45

Motion Comfort Cabo Rico 38 38.96

Express 30 22.39

Pounds/Inch Cabo Rico 38 1239

Express 30 875



Yes... faster than the Express 30.

CM



Capt. Mooron August 30th 04 06:03 PM


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
| In my case it was a
| logical decision.
|
|
| More logical than having a sea trial if possible? Wrong.

A Sea Trial is not a Test Sail Bob.
In a Sea Trail you have committed to purchase and are testing the vessels
components to assure they match the claims. A Sea Trail and Survey is
contingent upon final sale. I did not require a test sail because I had a
reasonable idea of the abilities and performance of the vessel. I did not
have to sail a sistership to understand that aspect.

I can understand that as a relative newcomer to boats in general ..... you
would be wise to pursue the avenue laid out for the inexperienced. I commend
you on your diligence.

CM


CM




Bobsprit August 30th 04 06:10 PM

Yes... faster than the Express 30.


Mooron, the CR 38 will generally only be faster over blue water passages.
Around the bouys the Express 30 would be faster and certainly point higher.
Doesn't matter worth a damn in any case. The CR 38 is a real yacht and the
Express is a toy by any comparison.
The CR is pretty close to a world class yacht.

RB


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