NO jax, I am not agreeing with you, I am responding to your post to me
..... a point you seem to be having trouble following.
Right now, I'd say you've lost track of what you've said to who and who
you are responding to about what ... but, a general state of confusion
is considered normal for you.

otn

JAXAshby wrote:
over the knee, you are agreeing with me and disagreeing with jeffies. did you
lose track of the world around you for a period of time?


...... and your point is? The subject is "dead reckoning", "deduced
reckoning", "ded reckoning", not "fixes", or is this some random thought
which just found it's way out of your brain.
I fail to see how this relates to my post below or anything else, for
that matter.

otn

JAXAshby wrote:

over the knee, **if** you have known references point **then** you are not
deducing anything at all about where you are.

why are you being such a dumb cluck?



yeah, that's it. yesterday means tomorrow, green means frying pan and DR

means


whatever you want, today at 7:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time when posting as

what


the frick ever.


Now, now, jax .... don't get yer spandex speedo in an uproar .....
simply stated, you just don't know enough about actual navigation to
have the ability to carry on an intelligent discussion on the subject.
BTW, next time you look up "dead reckoning", "ded reckoning", "deduced
reckoning", read the whole definition.
Although I doubt you'll be able to comprehend the possibilities .......

Tataaa

otn

It is the height of stupidity (and thus just at your level) to claim that
aviation regulations have some relevance to sailing. However, I do recall that
a number of pilots said your claim about aviation regs was faulty. Perhaps you
could give a reference? No? I didn't think so.

And what does a pilot do if they don't have GPS? Are you claiming its illegal
for a pilot to make a prediction about their location based on heading and
speed?

You've been claiming that everyone is doing illegal, dangerous things, but
you've never said exactly what is illegal or dangerous. All we know for sure is
that you're the one who calls in Maydays for no reason, and is lost at Hatteras.



"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
jeffies, what you proclaim as a safe practise has been illegal in the air for
seven some decades. now, I am fully aware that *YOU* believe *YOU* are above
the laws of physics, but get your wife to explain it to you.

Jaxie, all those pilots are laughing at your misunderstanding of navigation
and
are thankful that you don't fly anymore!

I'm also grateful that you don't sail whenever there is the smallest chance
of
fog - that eases my burden considerably!

As for "putting my family at risk" you'll be happy to know that I travel with
GPS (plus a spare) and Radar, and unlike you, actually know how to use them.
However, I'm also prepared to cope with the loss of electronics, and when
conditions are ripe for fog, I chose routes that are easier for DR navigation
if
the need arises.

Claiming that safe navigation in restricted visibility is impossible is to
claim
that cruising, especially in the Northeast (or the Northwest) in the summer
is
impossible. But I guess for you it is impossible.

Is this why you never tell us about any trips you've been on when you were
actually in charge? It seems like the only trips you talk about is when you
crewed for an "incompetent" skipper.




"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
yeah, 200,000 pilots in the country, and every last one of them is either
laughing at you for your lack of skills and understanding, or shaking their
heads at the danger you put yourself and your family so stew ped lee in.

jeffies is not smart (without asking his wife) to use the word "pilotage". he
merely said something about known ladmarks. same same.

I didn't see anywhere, where Jeff introduced "pilotage" in a way to
change the definition.

You are wrong when you say "DR" is never dead on (but that's beyond
your knowledge or experience).

absolutely not. it is physically impossible. period. (except by random
chance, but that defeats the definition).

maybe, over the knee, you don't know what reference points are, or what
constitutes a reference point. jeffies, doesn't/didn't.

like Ragu, "It's in there".

NO jax, I am not agreeing with you, I am responding to your post to me
.... a point you seem to be having trouble following.
Right now, I'd say you've lost track of what you've said to who and who
you are responding to about what ... but, a general state of confusion
is considered normal for you.

otn

JAXAshby wrote:
over the knee, you are agreeing with me and disagreeing with jeffies. did
you
lose track of the world around you for a period of time?


...... and your point is? The subject is "dead reckoning", "deduced
reckoning", "ded reckoning", not "fixes", or is this some random thought
which just found it's way out of your brain.
I fail to see how this relates to my post below or anything else, for
that matter.

otn

JAXAshby wrote:

over the knee, **if** you have known references point **then** you are not
deducing anything at all about where you are.

why are you being such a dumb cluck?



yeah, that's it. yesterday means tomorrow, green means frying pan and
DR

means


whatever you want, today at 7:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time when posting
as

what


the frick ever.


Now, now, jax .... don't get yer spandex speedo in an uproar .....
simply stated, you just don't know enough about actual navigation to
have the ability to carry on an intelligent discussion on the subject.
BTW, next time you look up "dead reckoning", "ded reckoning", "deduced
reckoning", read the whole definition.
Although I doubt you'll be able to comprehend the possibilities .......

Tataaa

otn

Are you claiming its illegal
for a pilot to make a prediction about their location based on heading and
speed?

I am saying it is absolutely illegal to fly blind with only heading and speed
info. absolutely. And has been for seven some decades.

you're the one who calls in Maydays for no reason,

I have never called in a mayday, nor have heard anyone call in a Mayday.

is lost at Hatteras.

if you can't see the lights at night at Hatteras you don't know where the
lights are at night at Hatteras. There is a reason those lights are there.

It is the height of stupidity (and thus just at your level) to claim that
aviation regulations have some relevance to sailing.

There is absolutely no qualitative difference between navigating an airplane
and navigating a boat, except the airplane also has an instrument to tell you
how far above the ground you are. none.

"JAXAshby" wrote in message
...
Are you claiming its illegal
for a pilot to make a prediction about their location based on heading and
speed?

I am saying it is absolutely illegal to fly blind with only heading and speed
info. absolutely. And has been for seven some decades.

And what do you do if you lose your electronics? Get out and walk?