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Scott Vernon July 17th 04 02:07 AM

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Who's on firth?


"Wally" wrote in message
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Capt. Mooron wrote:

'Firth' is Scottish for 'estuary', 'Forth' is the name of the river
that feeds it.


Crap... here I thought it was Gaelic!


It quite possibly is (haven't studied the etymology) - there are several
firths in Scotland... Firth Of Clyde, Firth Of Tay, Moray Firth, Solway
Firth, etc. An exception to the estuary idea is the Pentland Firth, which

is
actually the seaway between the mainland and Orkney.


[...back from Cape Breton Highlands National Park!]


It was gorgeous, right? :-)


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Jonathan Ganz July 17th 04 02:09 AM

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Ah, and most religious zealots are not. They're certain that
they're better than anyone else. That's why I like socialists
better. They're unsure and thus safer.

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"katysails" wrote in message
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Socialists usually have the best interest of society at heart,
misguided as they are

How very altruistic....so do the religionists....As they say, the road to
Hell is paved with good intentions and that applies to both sides....and
most socialists I've known have been pretty gloomy people....
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katysails July 17th 04 02:27 AM

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That's why I like socialists
better. They're unsure and thus safer.

Most socialists I've known have been very "in your face" and vocal about the
perceived evils and ills of capitalism, corporate structure, personal
freedom, etc. And not above and beyond calling names or labeling.

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Jonathan Ganz July 17th 04 05:35 AM

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That's true, but they're not smiling about it. They're angry.
You can tell that they may be dangerous. You can't with
the other party. They're smiling.

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"katysails" wrote in message
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That's why I like socialists
better. They're unsure and thus safer.

Most socialists I've known have been very "in your face" and vocal about

the
perceived evils and ills of capitalism, corporate structure, personal
freedom, etc. And not above and beyond calling names or labeling.

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katysails July 17th 04 01:14 PM

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That's true, but they're not smiling about it. They're angry.
You can tell that they may be dangerous. You can't with
the other party. They're smiling.

So you prefer angry people?

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Jonathan Ganz July 17th 04 06:03 PM

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No. I prefer happy people who are not trying to save me.
I don't like being lied to, so angry people aren't lying.

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"katysails" wrote in message
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That's true, but they're not smiling about it. They're angry.
You can tell that they may be dangerous. You can't with
the other party. They're smiling.

So you prefer angry people?

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Donal July 17th 04 11:59 PM

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"katysails" wrote in message
...

It's just unfortunate for you that you think my
name somehow means that I'm not.

I don't understand that either, since Wallace is a well known and revered
(especially since Mel Gibson ) name in Scottish legend and history. It's
not a Sassenach name at all......


Wallace is not usually abbreviated to "Wally".

"Wally" is an English name. No proud Scotsman would sign himself as
"Wally".

Wally may live in Scotland, ... he may even have been born in Scotland ...

He is not a Celt!




Regards


Donal
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Donal July 23rd 04 11:05 PM

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"katysails" wrote in message
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That's right. Bu**** is pretty close to center, but he's beholden
to the religious right. He's surrounded by extremest right wing
freakazoids.


Let's see...the choice is to be surrounded by raving religionists or
drooling, muck-raking socialists socialists...think I'd rather go with the
religionists....


Et tu, Katy?

Real religionists don't go to war.

"Thou shalt not kill." is quite unambiguous. There are no "ifs", "buts" or
exceptions of any kind.

I am aware that the 20,000 Iraqi civilian deaths are comepletely irrelevant.
However, God might consider that the deaths of the 200 American soldiers
constituted a breach of His 5th Commandment!


Regards


Donal
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katysails July 24th 04 01:42 AM

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Et tu, Katy?

Real religionists don't go to war.

I wasn't aware that I had declared war on anyone. It would be a pitifully
sad one if I did. And real religionists do declare war for righteous
reasons....David the King certainly saw his share as did Solomon the
Great....pacifism is a nice philosophy...too many people die along its'
edges, though, before the point is made and it is seldom sustained for any
length of time....even Jesus said "Render to Caesar that which is Caesar's/"
If your country calls you, then the obligation is to go or choose another
country more in line with your thinking. Since the country you reside in
thinks more or less the same as the USA on the current world situation, I
also ask you Et tu, Donal?
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Et tu, Katy?

Real religionists don't go to war.

"Thou shalt not kill." is quite unambiguous. There are no "ifs",
"buts" or exceptions of any kind.

I am aware that the 20,000 Iraqi civilian deaths are comepletely
irrelevant. However, God might consider that the deaths of the 200
American soldiers constituted a breach of His 5th Commandment!


Regards


Donal


You can't really be that stupid. You're just a provocateur, I assume.
If you really believe what you wrote, you'd have to go spit on the
graves of those twenty-year-old RAF pilots that saved Britain from an
early Nazi invasion. Just think of how many Nazi pilots they shot down
with abandon.... You must really despise them for that slaughter. Right?

The Commandment is, do not murder. If a wild-eyed serial killer is
stabbing your child to death in front of you, do you believe that God
has tied your hands, you can't harm him? You just have to talk it out
and reason with the poor fellow until he stops out of guilt, or fatigue?

A "pacifist" is just a coward or slacker that's not even honest enough
to admit that he (or she) is a coward or slacker. Refusing to destroy
evil does not show love for your fellow man, it shows contempt, and
thereby disobeys God's teaching. When you grow up, maybe you'll
understand.



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