One of my favorite nautically based expressions is "By and Large," as in "By and
large, Booby doesn't know how to sail."

Who knows what it really means?

Square rigger term for all sails set on the fastest point of sail.
I've also heard it as " full and by"

On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 16:11:14 -0400, "Jeff Morris"
wrote:

One of my favorite nautically based expressions is "By and Large," as in "By and
large, Booby doesn't know how to sail."

Who knows what it really means?

My understanding was the full and by means sailing close hauled
with the sails trimmed properly. Don't forget to dog down the
scuttles.

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www.sailnow.com

"Marc" wrote in message
...
Square rigger term for all sails set on the fastest point of sail.
I've also heard it as " full and by"

On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 16:11:14 -0400, "Jeff Morris"
wrote:

One of my favorite nautically based expressions is "By and Large," as in
"By and
large, Booby doesn't know how to sail."

Who knows what it really means?

You are correct and ,alas, I am not.



On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 14:55:16 -0700, "Jonathan Ganz"
wrote:

My understanding was the full and by means sailing close hauled
with the sails trimmed properly. Don't forget to dog down the
scuttles.

Jonathan Ganz wrote:

My understanding was the full and by means sailing close hauled
with the sails trimmed properly

ie "full". If you're pinching at all, it's not full and by.
Accordingly, full & by is not quite the closest on the wind

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Flying Tadpole, ex schooner skipper where full and by was 5
degrees off!

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By the wind was close hauled.

Large on the wind was down wind.

By and Large, means "in all directions", or "in all situations".

Marc wrote in message
...
Square rigger term for all sails set on the fastest point of sail.
I've also heard it as " full and by"

On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 16:11:14 -0400, "Jeff Morris"
wrote:

One of my favorite nautically based expressions is "By and Large," as in
"By and
large, Booby doesn't know how to sail."

Who knows what it really means?

By and Large
1) Colloquial term meaning ‘For the most part.’ Origin of the term seems
to be that a ship was considered particularly seaworthy if it could sail
both ‘by’ (close to the wind) and ‘large’ (broad to or before the wind).

2) A term derived from two sailing terms combined: "By the wind"
(Close-hauled), and "Sailing Large" (Running Free). The term, 'at large' ,
also comes from this usage.



Scotty


"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
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One of my favorite nautically based expressions is "By and Large," as in
"By and
large, Booby doesn't know how to sail."

Who knows what it really means?

A winner - though it would be better if you at least pretended you knew the
answer rather than copying a dictionary.

I always liked this phrase because it has such meaning for a sailor, but the
lubbers who use it so frequently are clueless to its meaning, even if you
explain it.



"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
By and Large
1) Colloquial term meaning ‘For the most part.’ Origin of the term seems
to be that a ship was considered particularly seaworthy if it could sail
both ‘by’ (close to the wind) and ‘large’ (broad to or before the wind).

2) A term derived from two sailing terms combined: "By the wind"
(Close-hauled), and "Sailing Large" (Running Free). The term, 'at large' ,
also comes from this usage.



Scotty


"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
One of my favorite nautically based expressions is "By and Large," as in
"By and
large, Booby doesn't know how to sail."

Who knows what it really means?

Got it from here; http://www.hostultra.com/~Exidor/Trivia/Navy_Trivia.htm
me? pretend I'm smart? and ruin my image.

BTW, how many points do I get?

Scotty

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
A winner - though it would be better if you at least pretended you knew
the
answer rather than copying a dictionary.

I always liked this phrase because it has such meaning for a sailor, but
the
lubbers who use it so frequently are clueless to its meaning, even if you
explain it.



"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
By and Large
1) Colloquial term meaning ‘For the most part.’ Origin of the term
seems
to be that a ship was considered particularly seaworthy if it could sail
both ‘by’ (close to the wind) and ‘large’ (broad to or before the wind).

2) A term derived from two sailing terms combined: "By the wind"
(Close-hauled), and "Sailing Large" (Running Free). The term, 'at
large' ,
also comes from this usage.



Scotty


"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
One of my favorite nautically based expressions is "By and Large," as
in
"By and
large, Booby doesn't know how to sail."

Who knows what it really means?

Points? You want points??

OK, I hereby award Scott Vernon 7.3 Loki-Points.




"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Got it from here; http://www.hostultra.com/~Exidor/Trivia/Navy_Trivia.htm
me? pretend I'm smart? and ruin my image.

BTW, how many points do I get?

Scotty

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
A winner - though it would be better if you at least pretended you knew
the
answer rather than copying a dictionary.

I always liked this phrase because it has such meaning for a sailor, but
the
lubbers who use it so frequently are clueless to its meaning, even if you
explain it.



"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
By and Large
1) Colloquial term meaning ‘For the most part.’ Origin of the term
seems
to be that a ship was considered particularly seaworthy if it could sail
both ‘by’ (close to the wind) and ‘large’ (broad to or before the wind).

2) A term derived from two sailing terms combined: "By the wind"
(Close-hauled), and "Sailing Large" (Running Free). The term, 'at
large' ,
also comes from this usage.



Scotty


"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
One of my favorite nautically based expressions is "By and Large," as
in
"By and
large, Booby doesn't know how to sail."

Who knows what it really means?