"Horvath" wrote in message
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On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 18:53:45 -0400, "Jeff Morris"
wrote this crap:


I keep my hatches open so my beer don't get too warm.

I keep plenty of beer in the fridge. You should try it!!



Regards


Donal
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"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
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"Donal" wrote in message
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That means
hatches were probably dogged.

Hatches are always sealed when a sailing boat is underway.


Wow, your crew must suffer on a hot day.

On a hot day, the crew are either in the cockpit or sleeping.


There are lots of boats, and lots of
situations where its desirable and permissible to make way with a hatch
open. I
would say that 90% of the time we have a saloon hatch open underway,
weather
permitting. Three of our hatches (2 in the galley, one in the head) have
been
cracked open for all but a few hours in the last 5 years.

Where do you sail? ...in a river?


IIRC, the Tartan 37 has a hatch just forward of the companionway that
could be
left open in moderate conditions.

I wonder how you define "moderate" conditions????

BTW, I've been on a Tartan 37, and I wouldn't sail it with any hatches open
unless I was going up a canal, or a river.


Regards


Donal
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On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 22:23:23 +0100, "Donal"
wrote this crap:

Wow, your crew must suffer on a hot day.

On a hot day, the crew are either in the cockpit or sleeping.

You meaned, "passed out."





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

"Donal" wrote in message
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"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
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"Donal" wrote in message
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That means
hatches were probably dogged.

Hatches are always sealed when a sailing boat is underway.


Wow, your crew must suffer on a hot day.

On a hot day, the crew are either in the cockpit or sleeping.

You don't prepare meals or eat? Often as not, someone will be down below.


There are lots of boats, and lots of
situations where its desirable and permissible to make way with a hatch
open. I
would say that 90% of the time we have a saloon hatch open underway,
weather
permitting. Three of our hatches (2 in the galley, one in the head) have
been
cracked open for all but a few hours in the last 5 years.

Where do you sail? ...in a river?

Atlantic Ocean. If I headed East I would hit Cape Finisterre, more or less. Of
course, the prevailing wind is from the West, so most of the time I'm in the lee
of a continent. Last Summer we did 20+ miles up or down the coast about 10
times. On two of those days we had conditions that forced us to seal up the
boat - the Cape Cod Canal episode I've mentioned, and the day following where we
had 25 to 30 knots onshore following 4 days of heavy weather offshore, so the
chop was 4-5 feet. Most of the trips we had small chop on long swells - almost
any boat over 35 feet should stay bone dry.




IIRC, the Tartan 37 has a hatch just forward of the companionway that
could be
left open in moderate conditions.

I wonder how you define "moderate" conditions????

You like to gauge everything by your personal experiance, but you sail in an
area with particualrly heavy commerical traffic, plus a strong current that
often opposes the wind. There are lots of places where one can sail and expect
to stay reasonably dry. And there are lots of boats that have hatches far
enough aft that are dry in most conditions. Many boats have hatches that are
virtually impossible to flood in anything other than severe weather. My Nonsuch
had a large hatch forward which stayed closed, but two small hatches aft, over
the galley and head - there's no reason to dog them down if there's no water on
deck.

Of course if the skipper is so unskilled that he can't recognise when its time
to batten down, he's probably better off just sealing up all the time.


BTW, I've been on a Tartan 37, and I wouldn't sail it with any hatches open
unless I was going up a canal, or a river.

Good for you.

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
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"Donal" wrote in message
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"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
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"Donal" wrote in message
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That means
hatches were probably dogged.

Hatches are always sealed when a sailing boat is underway.


Wow, your crew must suffer on a hot day.

On a hot day, the crew are either in the cockpit or sleeping.

You don't prepare meals or eat? Often as not, someone will be down below.





There are lots of boats, and lots of
situations where its desirable and permissible to make way with a
hatch
open. I
would say that 90% of the time we have a saloon hatch open underway,
weather
permitting. Three of our hatches (2 in the galley, one in the head)
have
been
cracked open for all but a few hours in the last 5 years.

Where do you sail? ...in a river?

Atlantic Ocean. If I headed East I would hit Cape Finisterre, more or
less. Of
course, the prevailing wind is from the West, so most of the time I'm in
the lee
of a continent. Last Summer we did 20+ miles up or down the coast about
10
times.

Wow! **20** miles, huh? "Up and down the coast", huh?

I'm beginning to understand how Bobsprit passes himself off as an
experienced sailor. I've always felt that I was a novice compared to most
of this group. You make me feel that I am an old sea dog.


On two of those days we had conditions that forced us to seal up the
boat - the Cape Cod Canal episode I've mentioned, and the day following
where we
had 25 to 30 knots onshore following 4 days of heavy weather offshore, so
the
chop was 4-5 feet.

4 to 5 feet??? That MUST have been really awful! Your crew didn't panic,
did they


Most of the trips we had small chop on long swells - almost
any boat over 35 feet should stay bone dry.

So you only sail in sheltered waters. .... same as Bob!

Regards


Donal
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"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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The clue, of course, was it was raining when the fire started, so open
all the windows and let the rain put it out.

RB

That means
hatches were probably dogged.

Hatches are always sealed when a sailing boat is underway.



Oh boy...um......BWAHAHAHAHAHA!


RB

Sealing up the companionway may limit oxygen
levels enough to snuff the fire.

That is the most stupid thing that I have ever read.

You might want to read up a bit. Closing a door to snuff a fire on a small boat
can work. I've read about it several times. Even in a home, fire safety PSA's
say to "close the door" if you can't fight the fire effectivley.
So...you're wrong again, Donal.

RB

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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Sealing up the companionway may limit oxygen
levels enough to snuff the fire.

That is the most stupid thing that I have ever read.

You might want to read up a bit. Closing a door to snuff a fire on a small
boat
can work.

Most of the ng boats are about 30 feet long. If you are unlucky enough to
have a fire, then you only have a few seconds to decide if you can
extinguish it, - or if you need to evacuate the boat. Unless you have a
boat like a Dehler (with its lifting washboards) you would be better off
concentrating your efforts on launching the liferaft.


I've read about it several times. Even in a home, fire safety PSA's
say to "close the door" if you can't fight the fire effectivley.

Idiot! Closing the door in your home doesn't take any time!



So...you're wrong again, Donal.

No.



Regards


Donal
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I've read about it several times. Even in a home, fire safety PSA's
say to "close the door" if you can't fight the fire effectivley.

Idiot! Closing the door in your home doesn't take any time!


Ummmm...Donal, I have a single hatchboard. I can slide it in place in less than
2.5 seconds. Does your Beneteau have a jigsaw puzzle for a hatch or are you
suffering from OCD?

Good Gravy! Bwahahahahahaha!!!

RB