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True, but I doubt that the authors who redacted the original into the OT
version intended your interpretation. You may have read where Abraham whups
the robber-kings to save his brother? In the original version he returns all
the spoils to their owners. In the redacted version he first gives 10% to
the priest then the rest to its owners.


I'm curious, where can I get a copy of the "original" version?

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Jeff Morris wrote:
I'm curious, where can I get a copy of the "original" version?

I'm also curious about where the Book of Genesis mentions Lillith.

DSK

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Jeff Morris wrote:
I'm curious, where can I get a copy of the "original" version?

I'm also curious about where the Book of Genesis mentions Lillith.


Lilith is never mentioned in The Bible (except possibly in Isaiah, but there it
is translated as "great owl"). There is a Lilith mentioned in the Talmud,
seeming a recasting of an old Babylonian myth, of a winged nymphomaniac mother
of demons, but she is never mentioned in the context of Genesis. And there is a
midrash about a first Eve, but she is not associated with Lilith, and there is
no way of knowing if it is an ancient (pre-biblical) tale or made up when it was
written, roughly in the third century, or shortly thereafter.

The two stories got combined in the 10th century "Alphabet of Ben Sira" (a very
odd work, possibly a parody or even an anti-Semitic satire) and then get picked
up in later Kabalistic works. However, there is no evidence that this was
actually part of an "original" bible.

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Navigator


Wasn't original sin consuming knowlege -a fruit in the metaphor?

Cheers

Perhaps,

i always saw the original sin as an act of definace more than a quest
for knowledge on adams part.

joe

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On Thu, 27 May 2004 12:10:53 -0400, "Jeff Morris"
wrote this crap:


True, but I doubt that the authors who redacted the original into the OT
version intended your interpretation. You may have read where Abraham whups
the robber-kings to save his brother? In the original version he returns all
the spoils to their owners. In the redacted version he first gives 10% to
the priest then the rest to its owners.


I'm curious, where can I get a copy of the "original" version?


I have an original, and it's autographed by the author.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

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On Thu, 27 May 2004 13:27:14 -0400, DSK wrote
this crap:

Jeff Morris wrote:
I'm curious, where can I get a copy of the "original" version?

I'm also curious about where the Book of Genesis mentions Lillith.

It doesn't.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

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Joe wrote:

Navigator

Wasn't original sin consuming knowlege -a fruit in the metaphor?

Cheers


Perhaps,

i always saw the original sin as an act of definace more than a quest
for knowledge on adams part.


God threw out his children for minor defiance? What a terrible parent.

Cheers

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I'm curious, where can I get a copy of the "original" version?

The Torah...the first 5 books of the Bible....the Hebrew is much different
than the translation and has been much edited to suit the politics of
following generations....

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God threw out his children for minor defiance? What a terrible parent.

God did not throw them out...they threw themselves out by the consequences
of their own actions....stop looking at the story and start looking at the
message...if you do evil, you are punished....before "original sin", man had
no concept of evil, just like a dog or cow or salamander doesn't have a
concept of evil....lower animals know danger and fear, but evil is not
something they deal with....they do not make moral or ethical
decisions....sometimes I think it would have been better if we hadn't
evolved....we'd certainly be a happier lot....

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I mispoke...the Talmud, not the Torah....

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