Evolution, if the theory is true, is direct evidence that God exists.

And so goes the scary brainwashing power. If proof counters existence of god,
then "believers" warp it into some sort of proof to support their faith.
One day we'll learn that the bible was just part of a graphic novel and those
with faith will take a deep collective breath and exclaim, "You see!!!"
Amazing.

RB

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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Evolution, if the theory is true, is direct evidence that God exists.

And so goes the scary brainwashing power. If proof counters existence of
god,
then "believers" warp it into some sort of proof to support their faith.

You've already admitted that you used fiction to support your point of view.

You "imagined" an unfortunate 12y/o girl in your attempt to prove that God
sidn't exist.

Can't you see that if you need to resort to invention, your theory must be
very weak?

Regards


Donal
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Can't you see that if you need to resort to invention, your theory must be
very weak?

Not all, seeing as my "invention" was a mix of real events and is quite common
otherwise.
"Pain and suffering" may not ultimately disprove the existance of god, but they
do show the level of job he/she's been doing. It's almost as if Bush were
god...!

RB

Donal

You've just completely undone your own argument, Dodonal

I doubt he sees it.

RB

Donal wrote:

You "imagined" an unfortunate 12y/o girl in your attempt to prove
that God sidn't exist.

There is no onus on him to prove that god doesn't exist. In fact, he's
already declared that he's agnostic - why would he seek to substantiate a
proposition that he hasn't asserted? The claim that stands to be proven is
that goes does exist, and the onus is on the believers to prove their claim.


--
Wally
www.forthsailing.com
www.wally.myby.co.uk

Many creationists believe (or have faith) that the earth is no more that 6
thousand years old.

Holy fenders on deck, Batman! That's just crazy!

RB

Does it have to be a divine cause?


Believe me, Bill. The primary reason for a belief in god is the simple fear of
death. Religion promises heaven and eternal existance. Roughly what was
promised to the terrorists on the 9/11 planes.

RB

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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| Many creationists believe (or have faith) that the earth is no more that 6
| thousand years old.
|
| Holy fenders on deck, Batman! That's just crazy!

No Bob.... what's crazy is that you actually trained Billy from wild dog to
lap dog in less than 6 months..... CRAZY MAN!

CM

"Wally" wrote in message
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Donal wrote:

You "imagined" an unfortunate 12y/o girl in your attempt to prove
that God sidn't exist.

There is no onus on him to prove that god doesn't exist. In fact, he's
already declared that he's agnostic - why would he seek to substantiate a
proposition that he hasn't asserted? The claim that stands to be proven is
that goes does exist, and the onus is on the believers to prove their
claim.

Rubbish!

Why do you place the onus on the believers? Are you suggesting that the
non-believers should be given the benefit of the doubt?


Why should non-believers be given more credence than believers?

I think that it is very strange that you will not give any scientific
evidence to back up your position. I've repeatedly given evidence to
support my views.



Regards


Donal
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"Donal" wrote in message
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....

I think that it is very strange that you will not give any scientific
evidence to back up your position. I've repeatedly given evidence to
support my views.

You haven't given even the tiniest bit of evidence that God exists. You simply
claim that you don't think there has been enough time for evolution to have
worked, therefore God must have created the thumb. Given that 99% of all
biologists (give or take a few) have embraced Evolution, your claim hardly
counts as "evidence."
http://books.nap.edu/html/creationism/


The only evidence that I have ever seen for the existence of God is the fact
that in almost group of humans, from any culture in the world, some number of
the people feel the need to believe in a deity. Of course, this is hardly a
proof, since you could also say the in almost every group there will be those
that never believe, as well as those that waffle. The one thing it tells me is
that for some reason, some percentage humans will be "believers" and some will
be "non-believers."