In other words, you're an idiot. Most MacCrap owners
figure out pretty quickly not to venture out. You'll get
there MacBoy. Keep trying.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...
In other words, you can't back up your statements. - Is that what you
are saying, Capt? You have no evidence, no proof, no statistics
suggesting that the Macs are falling apart becasue of "cheap sails and
frail rigging," or that Mac owners are being stranded at sea, or being
lost at sea, because of poor build quality.

Jonathan Ganz wrote:
In other words, you're an idiot. Most MacCrap owners
figure out pretty quickly not to venture out. You'll get
there MacBoy. Keep trying.


I challenged Moroon to put up and shut up. -He doesn't want to put his
cards on the table.

I'll extend the same challenge to you, Johnny. - DO YOU have any
evidence or statistics to help poor Moroon out of this embarrassing
situation? He is reduced to sputtering and growling and bragging about
his long sailing career so that he can avoid the question, and he could
use some help. (And in case you haven't figured it out yet, calling me
an idiot isn't going to cut it.)

Jim

"Jim Cate" wrote in message

| I challenged Moroon to put up and shut up. -He doesn't want to put his
| cards on the table.

My cards were made clear Jim.... there was a site posted here in reference
to a downed Mac... I've sailed on them several times.... from the Power
Sailor 19 to the Mac 26X. I've towed them out of harms way. I've tried in
vain to get them sailing well..... they refuse to get up on step when under
power. There were 4 of them in Yellowknife..... after 3 years there were
none.... they had to be hauled south to sell.

Remember when the salesman sold you an expensive vacuum cleaner that
wouldn't suck.... well now someone has sold you something that will. ;-D


CM

Capt. Mooron wrote:

"Jim Cate" wrote in message

| I challenged Moroon to put up and shut up. -He doesn't want to put his
| cards on the table.

My cards were made clear Jim.... there was a site posted here in reference
to a downed Mac... I've sailed on them several times.... from the Power
Sailor 19 to the Mac 26X. I've towed them out of harms way. I've tried in
vain to get them sailing well..... they refuse to get up on step when under
power. There were 4 of them in Yellowknife..... after 3 years there were
none.... they had to be hauled south to sell.

Remember when the salesman sold you an expensive vacuum cleaner that
wouldn't suck.... well now someone has sold you something that will. ;-D

Mooron, you will now be called a "Mac Basher" by Jim, his standard response to any post
that is not becoming to the 26M, factual or otherwise.

Dismay not, for he is apparently being coached by the Boobster.

Cheers
Marty

On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 12:53:09 -0400, Martin Baxter
wrote:

Capt. Mooron wrote:

"Jim Cate" wrote in message

| I challenged Moroon to put up and shut up. -He doesn't want to put his
| cards on the table.

My cards were made clear Jim.... there was a site posted here in reference
to a downed Mac... I've sailed on them several times.... from the Power
Sailor 19 to the Mac 26X. I've towed them out of harms way. I've tried in
vain to get them sailing well..... they refuse to get up on step when under
power. There were 4 of them in Yellowknife..... after 3 years there were
none.... they had to be hauled south to sell.

Remember when the salesman sold you an expensive vacuum cleaner that
wouldn't suck.... well now someone has sold you something that will. ;-D

Mooron, you will now be called a "Mac Basher" by Jim, his standard response to any post
that is not becoming to the 26M, factual or otherwise.

Dismay not, for he is apparently being coached by the Boobster.

Cheers
Marty

It is only a matter of time before Jim starts crowing about his home
theatre system Birds of a feather, for sure.

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message

| Mooron, you will now be called a "Mac Basher" by Jim, his standard
response to any post
| that is not becoming to the 26M, factual or otherwise.

Well then Marty... he would be correct in his assumption. I do bash useless
trash marketed beyond it's abilities to perform as stated.

| Dismay not, for he is apparently being coached by the Boobster.

You see plots and twists where none need exist Marty..... most anyone is
able to troll as effectively as Bob. Make a statement you know will cause
debate.... defend your position even if you know it's not sound..... count
the strikes to the lure.... scores are measured by persistence and wit....
the first to break into vulgarity or anger is the loser.

I never consider myself as hooked because I pick my "fights" and keep in
mind the forum this contest is played in. I can as easily take either
position and defend or attack..... that's the mark of a shark on the
group. ;-D

CM

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...

I never consider myself as hooked because I pick my "fights" and keep in
mind the forum this contest is played in. I can as easily take either
position and defend or attack..... that's the mark of a shark on the
group. ;-D

Rubbish!!!

You are a slave to popular opinion.


If, like me, you had the balls to acknowledge that he might actually enjoy
his purchase, then I might be able to respect your opinion.

However, on this occasion, you seem to have succumbed to popular opinion.

I'm disgusted! I never thought of you as a wimp.


Regards


Donal
--

"Donal" wrote in message

| Rubbish!!!

Pray tell how you reached that far fetched conclusion?

| You are a slave to popular opinion.

So are you....... in your stalwart refusal to engage it.

| If, like me, you had the balls to acknowledge that he might actually enjoy
| his purchase, then I might be able to respect your opinion.

Like one would enjoy stubbing one's foot on the stump of gullibility?


| However, on this occasion, you seem to have succumbed to popular opinion.

....and you Donal may be said to have succumbed to unpopular opinion!

|
| I'm disgusted! I never thought of you as a wimp.

You should re-evaluate your requirements .... or lower your expectations!
;-D

CM

Capt. Mooron wrote:

You see plots and twists where none need exist Marty..... most anyone is
able to troll as effectively as Bob. Make a statement you know will cause
debate.... defend your position even if you know it's not sound..... count
the strikes to the lure.... scores are measured by persistence and wit....
the first to break into vulgarity or anger is the loser.


Never could see the point in such practices, seems a might juvenile.

Cheers
Marty

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
| Capt. Mooron wrote:
|
| You see plots and twists where none need exist Marty..... most anyone
is
| able to troll as effectively as Bob. Make a statement you know will
cause
| debate.... defend your position even if you know it's not sound.....
count
| the strikes to the lure.... scores are measured by persistence and
wit....
| the first to break into vulgarity or anger is the loser.
|
|
| Never could see the point in such practices, seems a might juvenile.

This is a playground for adults Marty...... point / counterpoint is one of
the games. I'm here for the counterpoint..... ;-)

Let's face it..... after years being here.... almost every subject has been
discussed. There is still excellent input form the various disciplines of
sail. Those I read and learn from. The trolls I play with.

CM