Scott Vernon wrote:

"Jim Cate" wrote


Whatever floats your boat, Scotty.


water


I prefer to sail a MacGregor,


You're not sane



get out on the water more frequently,


you'll love stepping and unstepping the mast, re-rigging & de-rigging,
launching, etc., etc., each time.

The plan is to leave the boat in a gated boat storage area that has
access to the water. The mast would be left up.



insurance, financing, bottom treatments, engine repairs, rigging

repairs, electronics, sail replacements, etc.



No insurance on your Mac?

About $400 per year. (What I meant was that I wouldn't be paying
insurance on the larger, charter boats.


No bottom paint?

Nope. Not needed if the boat is sitting on the trailor when not in the
water.

That 50 hp WILL need maitnance.

Right. About $200 per year?

No rigging, electronics, or sails on your macM?????

Yes, I'll have to keep up the sails, rigging, electronics, etc. But when
you have only 300 sq ft of sails, and light, simple rigging, it's more
manageable.




Ever hear about "BOTH AND" instead of "EITHER OR," Scotty?



No, ever heard about ''IF ONLY'' , jimmy?

SV

Yes, I think I have. You are saying: "IF ONLY I had bought a Mac 26M....."?


Jim

Jonathan Ganz wrote:

MacBoy,

Add to the discussion?? How could one possibly have a discussion
with an idiot... at least not for very long.

Really? Then why are you still here?

Jim

Scott Vernon wrote:

"Jim Cate" wrote

.The boat had a canoe stern which enhanced its speed and was a

safety factor in the event of large following seas.


jimmy, stick to one troll at a time, please.



For most sailors who work for a living, the Mac addresses the
issue of time, and the limited amount each of us has, far more
intelligently than the Valiant.



BwaaaaaHaahaha Oh yeah that was a good one!!!!!!!!!!

SV


I can understand why it may take you a while to get what I'm talking
about, Scott, but it's worth your time. - Time is one of the few things
that we can't add to, buy more, go back to correct what we did, etc.
We all have a limited amount of it, and no one knows how much he or she
has left. - That's why the MacGregor 26M is a great choice, unless you
happen to be independently wealthy, and can spend as much time as you
want on your boat. Or, unless you want to live aboard. As explained in
the previous notes, The Mac permits you to spend less time getting to a
variety of sailing or recreational areas, and more time in the good
sailing areas or good recreational areas. It also permits you to trailer
your boat to many more sailing destinations that are available to the
typical displacement boat owner. For example, you can trailer the boat
down to Florida and sail in warm weather for a week while others have
put their boats away for the winter. Or, you can take your boat up to
Maine, or Mass, in the summer, to sail in comfortable weather while
others are sweating down in the lower US. In Texas, for example, we can
motor the boat down to a number of different sailing areas along the
Gulf coast. Again, unless you have unlimited vacation time, you couldn't
take trips like this frequently, or on weekends, etc.

Jim

"Jim Cate" wrote
The plan is to leave the boat in a gated boat storage area that has
access to the water. The mast would be left up.
what's the cost for that?



No insurance on your Mac?

About $400 per year. (What I meant was that I wouldn't be paying
insurance on the larger, charter boats.


I pay $215 for my ins., but then my boat is safer than yours.




No bottom paint?

Nope. Not needed if the boat is sitting on the trailor 98% of the time.


Oh.



That 50 hp WILL need maitnance.

Right. About $200 per year?

what do you think I spend on a Yanmar diesel per year? Hint: it's less than
$200. You really didn't research this very much, did you?




No rigging, electronics, or sails on your macM?????

Yes, I'll have to keep up the sails, rigging, electronics, etc.


so you admit you were bull ****ting.




"IF ONLY I had bought a Mac 26M....then I could be the laughing stock of
the sailing world."

Jim

wrote:

On Sat, 17 Apr 2004 09:48:26 -0500, Jim Cate wrote:

Are you really going to crawl up to the bow offshore in a chop to swap jibs, or
even to set a storm anchor?

The furling jib would have to be taken down and replaced early, before
conditions were excessive. Regarding crawling up on the bow, the Mac
26M has provides access to the jib through the hatch located near the
bow, in which you can stand or sit on the V-berth and reach the jib
through the hatch. It gives slightly better footing than trying to walk
forward topside.



Opening the forward hatch in heavy seas is a no-no for the obvious reasons.

BB

Thanks for that helpful suggestion, Binary. However,I think I've made
it clear that I intend to be very conservative when going off-shore, to
reef early, and substantially, if there is any question of threatening
weather. This would also apply to putting out a storm anchor. ... As
stated above:

Obviously, this is a small boat, and it would be foolhardy to sail
out in blue water in potentially severe conditions without reefing
down early, motoring back early if unusually severe conditions were
anticipated, and putting a storm jib or storm anchor out early if
necessary.

Ultimately, however, if an emergency arose despite all of the above, I
would rather have some water in the V-berth than wallow around without a
sea anchor.

Jim

Jim

"Jim Cate" wrote

The Mac permits you to spend less time getting to a
variety of sailing or recreational areas, and more time in the good
sailing areas or good recreational areas.

you don't understand 'sailing'.

For example, you can trailer the boat
down to Florida

but that would take a lot of time!




Jimmy, a weekend warrior wannabe

Jeff Morris wrote:

"John Cairns" wrote in message
...

Opening the forward hatch in heavy seas is a no-no for the obvious

reasons.

BB

You better explain why this is, I don't think "jim" understands the concept
of waves and where they might end up.


This is one of those lessons that has to be learned the hard way. It seems so
easy to understand that forward hatches must be kept shut, but it only really
sinks in after you see 6 inches of water on top of the bunk you have to sleep in
that night.

Last summer we had serious green water all the way to the dodger for the first
time. Fortunately I anticipated it - we were exiting the Cape Cod Canal on a 5
knot current against a 20 knot breeze - and was able to convince my wife that
*all* hatches must be sealed. We rode up and over the first two big square
waves (about 5-6 footers) but dove through the 8 footer before being squirted
out into Cape Cod Bay. My wife was in the cabin below and freaked when she saw
6 inches of water over her head!

I've wondered how a mac would handle this. With a good hand on the wheel, it
should be able to blast through; but get twisted a bit in the first wave ...



If you consider that the Mac is much lighter, with much smaller sails,
it's likely that it may ride over some waves that your boat may try to
"bore through." Not in great comfort, admittedly.

Jim

Jonathan Ganz wrote:

Wow. 20 people tell you you'll full of sh*t and you don't
believe them. Well, you've got a lot of undeserved self-esteem.

If they could come up with subtantive responses to my notes instead of
posting childish, personal attacks like that one, I might pay more
attention to them.

Jim

Jonathan Ganz wrote:

It sounds like you don't know anything about IQ tests. 101 is "above
average," 98 means nothing, being reasonably satisfied is a euphemism
for not finding an excuse to fire you, it is for sure my opinion, I don't
speak for others, and you do have a problem MacBoy.


As usual, you don't get it, do you John? The score of 98 was the score
on the ASA basic sailing course, not an IQ test. It was 98 percent, or
128 questions correct out of 130. - - As a suggestion, John, you
probably ought to slow down and read the notes somewhat more carefully
before you spout off. It might help you to avoid making a fool of
yourself, as you just did, quite so frequently.

Jim

Wally wrote:

Jim Cate wrote:


... Or were you hoping to get another answer.


What sort of 'other answer' do you think I was hoping for?

Actually, I didn't say that I thought you were hoping for another answer.

Jim