MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

Jonathan Ganz wrote:
I've been here long before you arrived, and I'll be here long
after you go. You're a piker compared to some of the others
who couldn't hack it and folded.


Really, John? How many years have you been posting to this newsgroup? -

Jim

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

Scott Vernon wrote:

"Jim Cate" wrote


In our area, the boat could be trailered to the Gulf coast in less than
an hour, or to various ports up and down the coast in two or three
hours.


why don't you just drive your car and get there faster?

I may do that. Taking my Mac 26M with me.



you don't get 'sailing'.

Really? I've probably been sailing longer than you have.



It means the difference between being essentially locked into
one sailing area for most of the year (It can get pretty monotonous)



you don't understand 'sailing'.

I understand it. I also understand that you are less interested in
sailing than you are in joining the Mac attack and getting "attaboys"
from your sleezy buddies.



I love


being able to go whereever we want to go, in one weekend.


weekend warrior



Despite my
pontification and sarcasm, the boat does substantially minimize the
"sailing" factor.


In other words, you have no response. Right?

Jim

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

Roger MacGregor wrote:

Sorry to hear you feel that way Jim. I've been posting to this group
for 25 years. if you want, you can call me at the office and verify
that it is indeed me. I'll be glad to discuss the new 'M' model and
maybe we can make a deal on your bridge.
Call the factory and ask for Rog.

Roger MacGregor

Roger, could you elaborate on your statements to the effect that you
peddle a "CRAPPY, SHODDY PRODUCT" and that your "customers have "NO CLUE
WHATSOEVER ... AS TO HOW BAD OUR BOAT REALLY
IS." And tell me about the bribe you said you paid to
Practical Sailor, and your paying off the DEP and OSHA?

That's an interesting story.

Jim

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

Wally wrote:

Jim Cate wrote:


From my experience on this ng so far, around 98% of those who ask me
a question are doing so hoping that I'll goof, or make a mistake of
some type that they can then use as a "gotcha" for further ridicule or
sarcasm. In this case, I had suspected that you were expecting that I
was blowing smoke, and that I really didn't have any specific,
substantive problems with the Mac 26x.

If I was wrong in this regard, and you really aren't trying to put me
down, please accept my apologies.


Thanks, but that wasn't the question I was referring to.


Wally, there are lots of notes on this string, and lots of questions. If
you will give me a hint at to what your question was, I'll be happy to
answer it.

Jim

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

Jonathan Ganz wrote:

Actually, that's not true, even in my case (of non-substantive posts).
The fact is that we tried to disuade you from your purchase, but it
turned out that you had already bought the junk and now seek to
justify it.


This is a lie, of course. (But you don't care whether you have to lie a
little bit on the ng, do you Johnny? Lying, cheating, distoring others
statements, is just part of the game for you. Right Johnny?)


So far, you haven't asked a single question that wasn't
answered in great detail. Thus, you are a MacBoy, a fool, and
stupid.


Not true, of course. No one has directly responded to my my discussio
nof six advantages the Mac 26M has over the Valiant 40. Most of all, its
capability of addressing the issue of time.

Jim

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

Jonathan Ganz wrote:

Wow. Two WHOLE DAYS!

Add to that 25 years of sailing.

Jim



Yes folks, this is some expert!

You didn't ace the test. You missed 2% (assuming we believe
you, which we don't).

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

wrote:

On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 20:30:57 -0500, Jim Cate wrote:



wrote:

On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 17:48:11 -0500, Jim Cate wrote:



Scott Vernon wrote:



check the headers and then do a Google. Roger has posted here before.



Binary, think about this for a moment. This newsgroup can be read by
anyone in the United States with access to the internet. In fact, it
can be read by people around the world. - In England, France, Germany,
Italy, Japan, Russia, China, etc. Do you REALLY think that the "real"
Roger MacGregor is going to post comments criticizing his boats like
that on this newsgroup? Comments like:

real sailors know what a "CRAPPY, SHODDY PRODUCT WE PEDDLE." Our
customers have "NO CLUE WHATSOEVER ... AS TO HOW BAD OUR BOAT REALLY
IS." And telling everyone on the www that he paid a bribe to
Practical Sailor, and paid off the DEP and OSHA?



Jim,

If I'm the gullible one, why do YOU have the Mac26m?

BB


So you prefer to run away from my question, right BB? Do you REALLY
think that Roger M would post statements like that on this ng?

Jim

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

Donal wrote:

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...

From my experience on this ng so far, around 98% of those who ask me a
question are doing so hoping that I'll goof, or make a mistake of some
type that they can then use as a "gotcha" for further ridicule or
sarcasm.


Ignore it.

Based on the answers that you gave me, I am sure that you will enjoy the
boat.

The opinions of strangers on Usenet doesn't matter one iota.

You will have great days on your new boat. After all, the greatest pleasure
in life is "being out on the water". The difference between a Mac26 and a
Swan is very small in this respect.


Congratulations on the purchase of your new boat!

Regards

Donal


Thanks. I'm looking forward to it.

Jim
--

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

When you're in a power boat (or a mac26mx) you're going somewhere.

When you're in a sailboat, you're alredy there.


Jim is a jackass and doesn't deserve to be a sailor.

SV


"Remco Moedt" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 20:13:03 -0500, Jim Cate wrote:

In our area, the boat could be trailered to the Gulf coast in less than
an hour, or to various ports up and down the coast in two or three
hours. It means the difference between being essentially locked into
one sailing area for most of the year (It can get pretty monotonous) and
being able to go whereever we want to go, in one weekend. Despite your
pontification and sarcasm, the boat does substantially minimize the
"lack of time" factor.

I still don't understand why you didn't buy a motorboat and optionally
also a dinghy. IMO 'getting there' is an huge part of the fun...


Cheers!


Remco

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

those old power boat feelings creeping back in, Donut?

Scotty

"Donut" the ex-power boater wrote

Ignore it.

Based on the answers that you gave me, I am sure that you will enjoy the
boat.

The opinions of strangers on Usenet doesn't matter one iota.

You will have great days on your new boat. After all, the greatest
pleasure
in life is "being out on the water". The difference between a Mac26 and a
Swan is very small in this respect.


Congratulations on the purchase of your new boat!



Regards



Donal
--

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...


Scott Vernon wrote:

"Jim Cate" wrote


In our area, the boat could be trailered to the Gulf coast in less than
an hour, or to various ports up and down the coast in two or three
hours.


why don't you just drive your car and get there faster?

I may do that. Taking my Mac 26M with me.


Yes! Be sure to park in the front lot of the local Seafood restaurant and
talk loud and 'salty' while you're eating.

PS throw in a few ''Arggggggs'' now and then.

Scotty

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

Many more than you MacBoy.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...


Jonathan Ganz wrote:
I've been here long before you arrived, and I'll be here long
after you go. You're a piker compared to some of the others
who couldn't hack it and folded.


Really, John? How many years have you been posting to this newsgroup? -

Jim

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

Sailing doesn't include the Mac, MacBoy.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...


Scott Vernon wrote:

"Jim Cate" wrote


In our area, the boat could be trailered to the Gulf coast in less than
an hour, or to various ports up and down the coast in two or three
hours.


why don't you just drive your car and get there faster?

I may do that. Taking my Mac 26M with me.



you don't get 'sailing'.

Really? I've probably been sailing longer than you have.



It means the difference between being essentially locked into
one sailing area for most of the year (It can get pretty monotonous)



you don't understand 'sailing'.

I understand it. I also understand that you are less interested in
sailing than you are in joining the Mac attack and getting "attaboys"
from your sleezy buddies.



I love


being able to go whereever we want to go, in one weekend.


weekend warrior



Despite my
pontification and sarcasm, the boat does substantially minimize the
"sailing" factor.


In other words, you have no response. Right?

Jim

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

He has no need to elaborate. We all get it except you.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...


Roger MacGregor wrote:

Sorry to hear you feel that way Jim. I've been posting to this group
for 25 years. if you want, you can call me at the office and verify
that it is indeed me. I'll be glad to discuss the new 'M' model and
maybe we can make a deal on your bridge.
Call the factory and ask for Rog.

Roger MacGregor

Roger, could you elaborate on your statements to the effect that you
peddle a "CRAPPY, SHODDY PRODUCT" and that your "customers have "NO CLUE
WHATSOEVER ... AS TO HOW BAD OUR BOAT REALLY
IS." And tell me about the bribe you said you paid to
Practical Sailor, and your paying off the DEP and OSHA?

That's an interesting story.

Jim

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

time is relevant, jimmy. On your Mac26Mx 2 hours will seem like an
eternity, in Hell. Time spent on a *real* sailboat always goes by too
fast.

Scotty


"Jimbo Can't" wrote
Most of all, its
capability of addressing the issue of time.

Jimbo

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

I've spoken the obvious truth. You've been lying since you
got here MacBoy. You have yet to prove when you actually
bought the boat. We're STILL WAITING.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...


Jonathan Ganz wrote:

Actually, that's not true, even in my case (of non-substantive posts).
The fact is that we tried to disuade you from your purchase, but it
turned out that you had already bought the junk and now seek to
justify it.


This is a lie, of course. (But you don't care whether you have to lie a
little bit on the ng, do you Johnny? Lying, cheating, distoring others
statements, is just part of the game for you. Right Johnny?)


So far, you haven't asked a single question that wasn't
answered in great detail. Thus, you are a MacBoy, a fool, and
stupid.


Not true, of course. No one has directly responded to my my discussio
nof six advantages the Mac 26M has over the Valiant 40. Most of all, its
capability of addressing the issue of time.

Jim

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

BFD. I've still been sailing longer even if I believed the 25 years.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...


Jonathan Ganz wrote:

Wow. Two WHOLE DAYS!

Add to that 25 years of sailing.

Jim



Yes folks, this is some expert!

You didn't ace the test. You missed 2% (assuming we believe
you, which we don't).

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

"Jim Cate" wrote



you don't get 'sailing'.

Really? I've probably been sailing longer than you have.


and you still haven't caught on? That's a shame.

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

"Jim Cate" wrote


So you prefer to run away from my question, right BB? Do you REALLY
think that Roger M would post statements like that on this ng?

Jimbo


why wouldn't he? he knows there's more than enough blind idiots to buy his
boats.

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

Jon, you old fart.

I've got 28 in.


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
BFD. I've still been sailing longer even if I believed the 25 years.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...


Jonathan Ganz wrote:

Wow. Two WHOLE DAYS!

Add to that 25 years of sailing.

Jim



Yes folks, this is some expert!

You didn't ace the test. You missed 2% (assuming we believe
you, which we don't).

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

I believe even murders get paroled after 25.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Jon, you old fart.

I've got 28 in.


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
BFD. I've still been sailing longer even if I believed the 25 years.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...


Jonathan Ganz wrote:

Wow. Two WHOLE DAYS!

Add to that 25 years of sailing.

Jim



Yes folks, this is some expert!

You didn't ace the test. You missed 2% (assuming we believe
you, which we don't).

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

I'm married, that's life w/out parole.

S
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
I believe even murders get paroled after 25.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
Jon, you old fart.

I've got 28 in.


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
BFD. I've still been sailing longer even if I believed the 25 years.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...


Jonathan Ganz wrote:

Wow. Two WHOLE DAYS!

Add to that 25 years of sailing.

Jim



Yes folks, this is some expert!

You didn't ace the test. You missed 2% (assuming we believe
you, which we don't).