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"Marc" wrote in message
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Two piece or solid? 6'?

On 02 Mar 2004 13:56:39 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote:

Are you getting the canvas from your friend who never showed up to
give me a quote?

That guy was good for deals, but really unreliable time-wise. He offered
me a
complete dodger for 500 bucks, but then wasn't even sure he could get it
to me
before this spring! He's a good guy, but way overextended and a poor
business
man. Too bad because he does nice work. He made a dodger for catalina
with SS
frame, grab handles, zip out windows and even a built in cockpit light
for 700
bucks.
My ebay sales worked out to make a deal with a local canvas guy who does
work
for the City Island yards. I'm basically paying nothing for the dodger.
I'll
let you know how well it turns out.
Let me know if you need a set of oars..I'll give you a nice 6 foot pair
for 20
bucks!

RB

SPAM ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

Spamming NG is frowned on, bob. You'd better hope Jon doesn't report you.

SV

"Bobsprit" wrote
Need any oars, Scotty? 20 bucks to Alt.Sailing.Asa members.

RB

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

Jim Cate wrote in message ...

Translation of the below message:

I bought a Mac, and I need someone to tell me it's OK.



After reading the numerous responses to my note, I conclude that: (1) No
one has sailed the new 26M extensively, and no one so far has any real
experience with or knowledge about the 26M Model; and (2) This doesn't
stop most responders from confidently and dogmatically telling me abpit
all the shortcomings of the 26M (which they have never seen, much less
sailed). In contrast, those I have talked with elsewhere who HAVE
actually sailed and motered the boat are quite impressed with it. What
seems to be overlooked repeatedly is that if I bought the Mac, I could
still charter a number of larger vessels for offshore cruising. In
discussions such as this, it seems to me that it's important to approach
the issues logically and with balanced consideration of all the related
issues. - So far, I see very little logic and lots of emotional ranting
and raving and put-downs of someone some apparently percieved as as a
convenient (novice) target. Nevertheless, I appreciate the helpful
suggestions and comments of those who have some useful information for
me to consider. Again, I can still charter some fine, heavy boats when
going offshore. And one more time..... I can still charter a wide
selection of heavy boats when going offshore.
Jim

Jim Cate wrote:

I'm considering the new MacGregor 26M for use in the Galveston-Houston
area and would like to get comments from anyone who has seen or sailed
on the boat. Or, anyone else.

For sailing and motoring in this area, the MacGregor seems to have some
advantages. - I'm aware of the largely negative comments on this ng
regarding the MacGregor line. However, for the intended use, e.g.,
sailing and motoring with small kids (grandchildren), fishing, and doing
some limited coastal cruising, the Mac 26M has the advantage that it
will motor to a desired destination at around 24 mph and can therefore
get to a desired sail or fishing area, and return, much more quickly
than a fixed keel boat. This tends to minimize the "are we home yet"
issue with small kids and non-sail-type guests. Also, in view of the
hundreds of square miles of shallow bay waters in our area, the boat's
ability to anchor in 15 inches of water, or to beach at one of the
islands, would be an obvious advantage. (The 40-foot Valiant, although
a great boat under sail offshore, was limited to around 8-10 knots under
motor or sail. So, it took us five hours to get from the Kemah marina to
the gulf, and we had to be careful to keep a sharp watch on the depth
finder.)

OK, the comparison is admittedly somewhat ludicrous. For the uses
anticipated, however, the Mac may be a practical and fun choice. Also,
the new "M" model seems to include some substantive improvements. - It
now has both lead and the removable water ballast, has a fin keel (which
I'm assuming may help in pointing), and a structural keel housing
extending vertically from the deck to the ballast area. The boat
reportedly includes additional fiberglass layers and other structural
and ergonomic improvements derived from their experience over the years.
As to it's sailing abilities, there is a video on the Mac web site
comparing the 26M and the 26X under sail, and the new model is clearly
much faster. (Assuming they didn't stage the race or doctor the video.)
With a large genoa, it looks like it might be a fast sailing boat; it
can reportedly plane under sail.

A further consideration is that, if I bought the MacGregor, I would
still have the opportunity to charter a wide variety of heavier boats
kept under charter in our area. Conversely, I couldn't purchase a
conventional fixed-keel boat and also charter a boat similar to the Mac.
(I'm not into motor boats, or staying out in the Texas sun for hours on
a powered fishing boat.) A negative factor is that the new Mac is
fairly expensive when fully equiped, comparable in price to many used 30
- 32-foot boats.

Comments from anyone regarding the sailing and motoring characteristics
of the new 26M would be appreciated.

Jim

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

I bought a Mac, and I need someone to tell me it's OK.

Doesn't sound like he bought one yet. But like many people looking at them,
he'd love to hear that it's a great compromise.

RB

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

I conclude that: (1) No
one has sailed the new 26M extensively,

good conclusion. Same thing is likely to happen to you as well should you buy
one.

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

got stunningly
bored with it

easy to happen.

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

Two piece or solid? 6'?


I've got 6 and 7 foot solid oars. I also have 4 foot paddles for canoe. Never
been used. I may end up donating the paddles (I have a lot) since they don't
cost much. I've sold about 15 pairs of oars so far, from 66 dollar down to
20.00.
Let me know and I'll hold a pair for you.

RB

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"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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Two piece or solid? 6'?


I've got 6 and 7 foot solid oars. I also have 4 foot paddles for canoe.
Never
been used. I may end up donating the paddles (I have a lot) since they
don't
cost much. I've sold about 15 pairs of oars so far, from 66 dollar down to
20.00.
Let me know and I'll hold a pair for you.

RB

MacGregor 26M - Valiant 40
 

The funny thing is, he came here to ask advice (more than once
actually), and is walking away thinking it's somebody else who's the
dummy in this picture.

That's why I made the comment. One day he's thanking people and the next he's
POed.
S/V Express 30 "Ringmaster"
"No shirt, no skirt, full service"

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TOS violation!!!!!!


Bad news, Scott. It's not a TOS violation.


RB