No. We've suggested that you're the idiot. YOU WIN!

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
It's been suggested by a few idiots that a TV had now place on a modern
crusing
boat. Now I'm no long range cruiser, but facts are facts!

Have you ever heard of lots of unnecessary crap... apparently you like it.

Space: Have you guys ever heard of "flat screen TV?" Uses little power and
takes up even less space.
Safety: A properly mounted TV won't fly around in bad weather or a
knockdown.

So now you have a TV and a laptop. Wow, you're a pretty busy guy down below
there. How about doing some sailing.

Power: Many long distance cruisers now carry nice laptops in addition to
the
standard charts. These laptops can treat the cruiser to a movie now and
again
with almost no power penalty.

The fact is that you're a no-brainer and you can entertain yourself.

The fact is that TV has become a no-brainer for easy entertainment on many
a
cruising boat, espcially in recent years with flat panel displays. Anyone
who
says otherwise is living in the past and hasn't read websites showing
today's
cruisers and what they carry. Books, music? Of course! But a TV can be a
great
treat for those aboard and doesn't need to stay home anymore.

Wake up, get out of your apartment, and do some serious sailing. Then, get
back
to us (or not).


Wake up and smell the 80's, kids. They've ended...long ago!

Bwahahahahaha!

RB

Hell, Jon, if Boob had done ANY long distance blue water sailing he would
realize two very important facts. 1. When you're underway, there is very
little extra time for leisure activities like watching movies. Think of how
much time is available on a typical off-watch. 2. When you arrive at your
destination, there are usually more interesting or important things to do
than sit around watching movies. I think Boob has some strange ideas about
what life at SEA is about, these ideas have been reinforced by the crap he's
seen at boat shows. About the only statement he made that had any basis in
reality was:
"Now I'm no long range cruiser"
I would add, he's no short distance cruiser either.
John Cairns

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
No. We've suggested that you're the idiot. YOU WIN!

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
It's been suggested by a few idiots that a TV had now place on a modern
crusing
boat. Now I'm no long range cruiser, but facts are facts!

Have you ever heard of lots of unnecessary crap... apparently you like it.

Space: Have you guys ever heard of "flat screen TV?" Uses little power
and
takes up even less space.
Safety: A properly mounted TV won't fly around in bad weather or a
knockdown.

So now you have a TV and a laptop. Wow, you're a pretty busy guy down
below
there. How about doing some sailing.

Power: Many long distance cruisers now carry nice laptops in addition to
the
standard charts. These laptops can treat the cruiser to a movie now and
again
with almost no power penalty.

The fact is that you're a no-brainer and you can entertain yourself.

The fact is that TV has become a no-brainer for easy entertainment on
many
a
cruising boat, espcially in recent years with flat panel displays.
Anyone
who
says otherwise is living in the past and hasn't read websites showing
today's
cruisers and what they carry. Books, music? Of course! But a TV can be a
great
treat for those aboard and doesn't need to stay home anymore.

Wake up, get out of your apartment, and do some serious sailing. Then, get
back
to us (or not).


Wake up and smell the 80's, kids. They've ended...long ago!

Bwahahahahaha!

RB

So what happens to these "long distance cruisers" when they arrive at their
destination? When they sight land do they turn around and head back, like the
Flying Dutchman? Most Long Distance Cruisers are coastal cruisers that, on
occasion, make long passages.



"John Cairns" wrote in message
...
Hell, Jon, if Boob had done ANY long distance blue water sailing he would
realize two very important facts. 1. When you're underway, there is very
little extra time for leisure activities like watching movies. Think of how
much time is available on a typical off-watch. 2. When you arrive at your
destination, there are usually more interesting or important things to do
than sit around watching movies. I think Boob has some strange ideas about
what life at SEA is about, these ideas have been reinforced by the crap he's
seen at boat shows. About the only statement he made that had any basis in
reality was:
"Now I'm no long range cruiser"
I would add, he's no short distance cruiser either.
John Cairns

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
No. We've suggested that you're the idiot. YOU WIN!

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
It's been suggested by a few idiots that a TV had now place on a modern
crusing
boat. Now I'm no long range cruiser, but facts are facts!

Have you ever heard of lots of unnecessary crap... apparently you like it.

Space: Have you guys ever heard of "flat screen TV?" Uses little power
and
takes up even less space.
Safety: A properly mounted TV won't fly around in bad weather or a
knockdown.

So now you have a TV and a laptop. Wow, you're a pretty busy guy down
below
there. How about doing some sailing.

Power: Many long distance cruisers now carry nice laptops in addition to
the
standard charts. These laptops can treat the cruiser to a movie now and
again
with almost no power penalty.

The fact is that you're a no-brainer and you can entertain yourself.

The fact is that TV has become a no-brainer for easy entertainment on
many
a
cruising boat, espcially in recent years with flat panel displays.
Anyone
who
says otherwise is living in the past and hasn't read websites showing
today's
cruisers and what they carry. Books, music? Of course! But a TV can be a
great
treat for those aboard and doesn't need to stay home anymore.

Wake up, get out of your apartment, and do some serious sailing. Then, get
back
to us (or not).


Wake up and smell the 80's, kids. They've ended...long ago!

Bwahahahahaha!

RB

Right.... sure Jeff. You'll take the time to watch French, Portugeese,
Italian, Spanish or Dutch television!!
Give it a rest will ya!

CM

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
| So what happens to these "long distance cruisers" when they arrive at
their
| destination? When they sight land do they turn around and head back, like
the
| Flying Dutchman? Most Long Distance Cruisers are coastal cruisers that,
on
| occasion, make long passages.
|
|
|
| "John Cairns" wrote in message
| ...
| Hell, Jon, if Boob had done ANY long distance blue water sailing he
would
| realize two very important facts. 1. When you're underway, there is very
| little extra time for leisure activities like watching movies. Think of
how
| much time is available on a typical off-watch. 2. When you arrive at
your
| destination, there are usually more interesting or important things to
do
| than sit around watching movies. I think Boob has some strange ideas
about
| what life at SEA is about, these ideas have been reinforced by the crap
he's
| seen at boat shows. About the only statement he made that had any basis
in
| reality was:
| "Now I'm no long range cruiser"
| I would add, he's no short distance cruiser either.
| John Cairns
|
| "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
| ...
| No. We've suggested that you're the idiot. YOU WIN!
|
| "Bobsprit" wrote in message
| ...
| It's been suggested by a few idiots that a TV had now place on a
modern
| crusing
| boat. Now I'm no long range cruiser, but facts are facts!
|
| Have you ever heard of lots of unnecessary crap... apparently you like
it.
|
| Space: Have you guys ever heard of "flat screen TV?" Uses little
power
| and
| takes up even less space.
| Safety: A properly mounted TV won't fly around in bad weather or a
| knockdown.
|
| So now you have a TV and a laptop. Wow, you're a pretty busy guy down
| below
| there. How about doing some sailing.
|
| Power: Many long distance cruisers now carry nice laptops in
addition to
| the
| standard charts. These laptops can treat the cruiser to a movie now
and
| again
| with almost no power penalty.
|
| The fact is that you're a no-brainer and you can entertain yourself.
|
| The fact is that TV has become a no-brainer for easy entertainment
on
| many
| a
| cruising boat, espcially in recent years with flat panel displays.
| Anyone
| who
| says otherwise is living in the past and hasn't read websites
showing
| today's
| cruisers and what they carry. Books, music? Of course! But a TV can
be a
| great
| treat for those aboard and doesn't need to stay home anymore.
|
| Wake up, get out of your apartment, and do some serious sailing. Then,
get
| back
| to us (or not).
|
|
| Wake up and smell the 80's, kids. They've ended...long ago!
|
| Bwahahahahaha!
|
| RB
|
|
|
|
|
|

You're right, I had an awful time understanding people in Canada.


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
Right.... sure Jeff. You'll take the time to watch French, Portugeese,
Italian, Spanish or Dutch television!!
Give it a rest will ya!

CM

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
| So what happens to these "long distance cruisers" when they arrive at
their
| destination? When they sight land do they turn around and head back, like
the
| Flying Dutchman? Most Long Distance Cruisers are coastal cruisers that,
on
| occasion, make long passages.
|
|
|
| "John Cairns" wrote in message
| ...
| Hell, Jon, if Boob had done ANY long distance blue water sailing he
would
| realize two very important facts. 1. When you're underway, there is very
| little extra time for leisure activities like watching movies. Think of
how
| much time is available on a typical off-watch. 2. When you arrive at
your
| destination, there are usually more interesting or important things to
do
| than sit around watching movies. I think Boob has some strange ideas
about
| what life at SEA is about, these ideas have been reinforced by the crap
he's
| seen at boat shows. About the only statement he made that had any basis
in
| reality was:
| "Now I'm no long range cruiser"
| I would add, he's no short distance cruiser either.
| John Cairns
|
| "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
| ...
| No. We've suggested that you're the idiot. YOU WIN!
|
| "Bobsprit" wrote in message
| ...
| It's been suggested by a few idiots that a TV had now place on a
modern
| crusing
| boat. Now I'm no long range cruiser, but facts are facts!
|
| Have you ever heard of lots of unnecessary crap... apparently you like
it.
|
| Space: Have you guys ever heard of "flat screen TV?" Uses little
power
| and
| takes up even less space.
| Safety: A properly mounted TV won't fly around in bad weather or a
| knockdown.
|
| So now you have a TV and a laptop. Wow, you're a pretty busy guy down
| below
| there. How about doing some sailing.
|
| Power: Many long distance cruisers now carry nice laptops in
addition to
| the
| standard charts. These laptops can treat the cruiser to a movie now
and
| again
| with almost no power penalty.
|
| The fact is that you're a no-brainer and you can entertain yourself.
|
| The fact is that TV has become a no-brainer for easy entertainment
on
| many
| a
| cruising boat, espcially in recent years with flat panel displays.
| Anyone
| who
| says otherwise is living in the past and hasn't read websites
showing
| today's
| cruisers and what they carry. Books, music? Of course! But a TV can
be a
| great
| treat for those aboard and doesn't need to stay home anymore.
|
| Wake up, get out of your apartment, and do some serious sailing. Then,
get
| back
| to us (or not).
|
|
| Wake up and smell the 80's, kids. They've ended...long ago!
|
| Bwahahahahaha!
|
| RB
|
|
|
|
|
|

French porn, ooh la la......

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
Right.... sure Jeff. You'll take the time to watch French, Portugeese,
Italian, Spanish or Dutch television!!
Give it a rest will ya!

CM

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
| So what happens to these "long distance cruisers" when they arrive at
their
| destination? When they sight land do they turn around and head back,
like
the
| Flying Dutchman? Most Long Distance Cruisers are coastal cruisers that,
on
| occasion, make long passages.
|
|
|
| "John Cairns" wrote in message
| ...
| Hell, Jon, if Boob had done ANY long distance blue water sailing he
would
| realize two very important facts. 1. When you're underway, there is
very
| little extra time for leisure activities like watching movies. Think
of
how
| much time is available on a typical off-watch. 2. When you arrive at
your
| destination, there are usually more interesting or important things to
do
| than sit around watching movies. I think Boob has some strange ideas
about
| what life at SEA is about, these ideas have been reinforced by the
crap
he's
| seen at boat shows. About the only statement he made that had any
basis
in
| reality was:
| "Now I'm no long range cruiser"
| I would add, he's no short distance cruiser either.
| John Cairns
|
| "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
| ...
| No. We've suggested that you're the idiot. YOU WIN!
|
| "Bobsprit" wrote in message
| ...
| It's been suggested by a few idiots that a TV had now place on a
modern
| crusing
| boat. Now I'm no long range cruiser, but facts are facts!
|
| Have you ever heard of lots of unnecessary crap... apparently you
like
it.
|
| Space: Have you guys ever heard of "flat screen TV?" Uses little
power
| and
| takes up even less space.
| Safety: A properly mounted TV won't fly around in bad weather or a
| knockdown.
|
| So now you have a TV and a laptop. Wow, you're a pretty busy guy
down
| below
| there. How about doing some sailing.
|
| Power: Many long distance cruisers now carry nice laptops in
addition to
| the
| standard charts. These laptops can treat the cruiser to a movie
now
and
| again
| with almost no power penalty.
|
| The fact is that you're a no-brainer and you can entertain yourself.
|
| The fact is that TV has become a no-brainer for easy entertainment
on
| many
| a
| cruising boat, espcially in recent years with flat panel displays.
| Anyone
| who
| says otherwise is living in the past and hasn't read websites
showing
| today's
| cruisers and what they carry. Books, music? Of course! But a TV
can
be a
| great
| treat for those aboard and doesn't need to stay home anymore.
|
| Wake up, get out of your apartment, and do some serious sailing.
Then,
get
| back
| to us (or not).
|
|
| Wake up and smell the 80's, kids. They've ended...long ago!
|
| Bwahahahahaha!
|
| RB
|
|
|
|
|
|

In my experience, it's exploring the destination, not sitting on the hook,
and especially not watching the Crying Game, as boober would do.

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
So what happens to these "long distance cruisers" when they arrive at
their
destination? When they sight land do they turn around and head back, like
the
Flying Dutchman? Most Long Distance Cruisers are coastal cruisers that,
on
occasion, make long passages.



"John Cairns" wrote in message
...
Hell, Jon, if Boob had done ANY long distance blue water sailing he
would
realize two very important facts. 1. When you're underway, there is very
little extra time for leisure activities like watching movies. Think of
how
much time is available on a typical off-watch. 2. When you arrive at
your
destination, there are usually more interesting or important things to
do
than sit around watching movies. I think Boob has some strange ideas
about
what life at SEA is about, these ideas have been reinforced by the crap
he's
seen at boat shows. About the only statement he made that had any basis
in
reality was:
"Now I'm no long range cruiser"
I would add, he's no short distance cruiser either.
John Cairns

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
No. We've suggested that you're the idiot. YOU WIN!

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
It's been suggested by a few idiots that a TV had now place on a
modern
crusing
boat. Now I'm no long range cruiser, but facts are facts!

Have you ever heard of lots of unnecessary crap... apparently you like
it.

Space: Have you guys ever heard of "flat screen TV?" Uses little
power
and
takes up even less space.
Safety: A properly mounted TV won't fly around in bad weather or a
knockdown.

So now you have a TV and a laptop. Wow, you're a pretty busy guy down
below
there. How about doing some sailing.

Power: Many long distance cruisers now carry nice laptops in
addition to
the
standard charts. These laptops can treat the cruiser to a movie now
and
again
with almost no power penalty.

The fact is that you're a no-brainer and you can entertain yourself.

The fact is that TV has become a no-brainer for easy entertainment
on
many
a
cruising boat, espcially in recent years with flat panel displays.
Anyone
who
says otherwise is living in the past and hasn't read websites
showing
today's
cruisers and what they carry. Books, music? Of course! But a TV can
be a
great
treat for those aboard and doesn't need to stay home anymore.

Wake up, get out of your apartment, and do some serious sailing. Then,
get
back
to us (or not).


Wake up and smell the 80's, kids. They've ended...long ago!

Bwahahahahaha!

RB

Like I said, if this is your annual vacation, you probably want to "vacate." If
this is your life, you might want to watch the morning weather and news. The TV
I'm watching now I bought from a liveaboard who needed a different model to fit
with a VCR in a locker.


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In my experience, it's exploring the destination, not sitting on the hook,
and especially not watching the Crying Game, as boober would do.

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
So what happens to these "long distance cruisers" when they arrive at
their
destination? When they sight land do they turn around and head back, like
the
Flying Dutchman? Most Long Distance Cruisers are coastal cruisers that,
on
occasion, make long passages.



"John Cairns" wrote in message
...
Hell, Jon, if Boob had done ANY long distance blue water sailing he
would
realize two very important facts. 1. When you're underway, there is very
little extra time for leisure activities like watching movies. Think of
how
much time is available on a typical off-watch. 2. When you arrive at
your
destination, there are usually more interesting or important things to
do
than sit around watching movies. I think Boob has some strange ideas
about
what life at SEA is about, these ideas have been reinforced by the crap
he's
seen at boat shows. About the only statement he made that had any basis
in
reality was:
"Now I'm no long range cruiser"
I would add, he's no short distance cruiser either.
John Cairns

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
No. We've suggested that you're the idiot. YOU WIN!

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
It's been suggested by a few idiots that a TV had now place on a
modern
crusing
boat. Now I'm no long range cruiser, but facts are facts!

Have you ever heard of lots of unnecessary crap... apparently you like
it.

Space: Have you guys ever heard of "flat screen TV?" Uses little
power
and
takes up even less space.
Safety: A properly mounted TV won't fly around in bad weather or a
knockdown.

So now you have a TV and a laptop. Wow, you're a pretty busy guy down
below
there. How about doing some sailing.

Power: Many long distance cruisers now carry nice laptops in
addition to
the
standard charts. These laptops can treat the cruiser to a movie now
and
again
with almost no power penalty.

The fact is that you're a no-brainer and you can entertain yourself.

The fact is that TV has become a no-brainer for easy entertainment
on
many
a
cruising boat, espcially in recent years with flat panel displays.
Anyone
who
says otherwise is living in the past and hasn't read websites
showing
today's
cruisers and what they carry. Books, music? Of course! But a TV can
be a
great
treat for those aboard and doesn't need to stay home anymore.

Wake up, get out of your apartment, and do some serious sailing. Then,
get
back
to us (or not).


Wake up and smell the 80's, kids. They've ended...long ago!

Bwahahahahaha!

RB

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
Like I said, if this is your annual vacation, you probably want to
"vacate." If
this is your life, you might want to watch the morning weather and news.
The TV
I'm watching now I bought from a liveaboard who needed a different model
to fit
with a VCR in a locker.

We never mentioned "liveaboard", which carries with it completely different
nuances than "long distance cruiser". Even in these parts, we have
year-round liveaboards, one of whom even has dish-tv. Thing is, like many
liveaboards, he rarely goes anywhere on his boat, he just uses the boat as
his living quarters. Of course, by definition, long distance cruisers are
"liveaboards", but they sail their boats to different locations. The
difference is important, IMHO. If you're just living aboard and staying put,
you would probably load your boat down with as many creature comforts as
possible, if you spend most of your time traveling from place to place your
priorities would probably be somewhat different.
John Cairns

Your theory sounds good, but I think its just a matter of preference. The
people that don't like TV won't have one on board. Most of the cruisers on
larger boats that I've met have one, if only for occasional use.

BTW, the liveaboards that I bought the TV from cruise Nova Scotia in the Summer,
sometimes going to Newfoundland. In the winter they normally hang out in SC, but
sometimes they go to FL or the Bahamas. Almost all of this time is at anchor,
and they've been doing it for most of the last 25 years.


"John Cairns" wrote in message
...

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
Like I said, if this is your annual vacation, you probably want to
"vacate." If
this is your life, you might want to watch the morning weather and news.
The TV
I'm watching now I bought from a liveaboard who needed a different model
to fit
with a VCR in a locker.

We never mentioned "liveaboard", which carries with it completely different
nuances than "long distance cruiser". Even in these parts, we have
year-round liveaboards, one of whom even has dish-tv. Thing is, like many
liveaboards, he rarely goes anywhere on his boat, he just uses the boat as
his living quarters. Of course, by definition, long distance cruisers are
"liveaboards", but they sail their boats to different locations. The
difference is important, IMHO. If you're just living aboard and staying put,
you would probably load your boat down with as many creature comforts as
possible, if you spend most of your time traveling from place to place your
priorities would probably be somewhat different.
John Cairns