No. Not always. It's easy to say "always," "never," and other absolutes.
You're really GREAT at winning this kind of argument. You're really
TERRIBLE at actually doing anything else. YOU WIN!

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
2. When you arrive at your
destination, there are usually more interesting or important things to do
than sit around watching movies.

Always?


RB

No. Not always. It's easy to say "always," "never," and other absolutes.
You're really GREAT at winning this kind of argument.

Actually, it was Remco who made the absolute statement. I merely said that the
modern blue water could certainly afford to carry a TV these days with little
trouble. I dare say some blue water sailors might enjoy classic or modern
cinema. These days you can carry a flat screen set and 100 movies in a thick
wallet.
Remco is thinking of big TVs and VHS machines. He's clearly an older fella as
is Marty.

RB

John, this is all quite obvious to anyone who actually ventures offshore.
I spent 10 days going down the cal coast for example. The only free
time we had was for eating, fixing stuff, sleeping, and enjoying the
natural environment of the ocean. Below decks was used mostly for
eating, sleeping, nav work, and using the head, and this was a pretty good
sized boat... 48' CT. I can't imagine anyone (except boober) wanting to
waste time watching TV.

"John Cairns" wrote in message
...
Hell, Jon, if Boob had done ANY long distance blue water sailing he would
realize two very important facts. 1. When you're underway, there is very
little extra time for leisure activities like watching movies. Think of
how
much time is available on a typical off-watch. 2. When you arrive at your
destination, there are usually more interesting or important things to do
than sit around watching movies. I think Boob has some strange ideas about
what life at SEA is about, these ideas have been reinforced by the crap
he's
seen at boat shows. About the only statement he made that had any basis in
reality was:
"Now I'm no long range cruiser"
I would add, he's no short distance cruiser either.
John Cairns

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
No. We've suggested that you're the idiot. YOU WIN!

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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It's been suggested by a few idiots that a TV had now place on a
modern
crusing
boat. Now I'm no long range cruiser, but facts are facts!

Have you ever heard of lots of unnecessary crap... apparently you like
it.

Space: Have you guys ever heard of "flat screen TV?" Uses little power
and
takes up even less space.
Safety: A properly mounted TV won't fly around in bad weather or a
knockdown.

So now you have a TV and a laptop. Wow, you're a pretty busy guy down
below
there. How about doing some sailing.

Power: Many long distance cruisers now carry nice laptops in addition
to
the
standard charts. These laptops can treat the cruiser to a movie now
and
again
with almost no power penalty.

The fact is that you're a no-brainer and you can entertain yourself.

The fact is that TV has become a no-brainer for easy entertainment on
many
a
cruising boat, espcially in recent years with flat panel displays.
Anyone
who
says otherwise is living in the past and hasn't read websites showing
today's
cruisers and what they carry. Books, music? Of course! But a TV can be
a
great
treat for those aboard and doesn't need to stay home anymore.

Wake up, get out of your apartment, and do some serious sailing. Then,
get
back
to us (or not).


Wake up and smell the 80's, kids. They've ended...long ago!

Bwahahahahaha!

RB

"John Cairns" wrote ...
Hell, Jon, if Boob had done ANY long distance blue water sailing he

wouldn't be such an asshole all the time?

"Now I'm no long range cruiser"
I would add, he's no short distance cruiser either.


now John, he does claim he made a 3 day passage last year.

SV

You guys are missing the point. Dumbco made an absolute statement, He said blue
water sailors don't carry TVs. He's wrong. Some do. Whether they want to screen
their own videos, watch porn, view classic films or watch the local news,
there's no great penalty in carry such a system if it's what you want.

As usual, I'm on topic and right.

RB

As usual, for you it would be porn because that's all you can get.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
You guys are missing the point. Dumbco made an absolute statement, He said
blue
water sailors don't carry TVs. He's wrong. Some do. Whether they want to
screen
their own videos, watch porn, view classic films or watch the local news,
there's no great penalty in carry such a system if it's what you want.

As usual, I'm on topic and right.

RB

"Bobsprit" wrote ...
Whether they want to screen
their own videos, watch porn, view classic films or watch the local news,


As usual, you're an asshole. Screen this!

On 28 Jan 2004 23:37:06 GMT, (Bobsprit) wrote:

You guys are missing the point. Dumbco made an absolute statement, He said blue
water sailors don't carry TVs. He's wrong. Some do. Whether they want to screen
their own videos, watch porn, view classic films or watch the local news,
there's no great penalty in carry such a system if it's what you want.


I guess Dumbco is me....please quote the post where I said that blue
water sailors don't carry TV....

As usual, I'm on topic and right.

Prove it... g


Cheers!

Dum...errrr.....Remco

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
It's been suggested by a few idiots that a TV had now place on a modern
crusing
boat.



Now I'm no long range cruiser, but facts are facts!

Absolutely correct. You are no "long range cruiser". You are, also, not
a "medium range cruiser".
Furthermore, you are not a "short range cruiser".

Calling yourself a day-sailor is an insult to all the day-sailors who
venture out of sight of land.




Space: Have you guys ever heard of "flat screen TV?" Uses little power and
takes up even less space.

Yup! I have one in my living room. It doesn't save as much space as I
had hoped.

Safety: A properly mounted TV won't fly around in bad weather or a
knockdown.
Power: Many long distance cruisers now carry nice laptops in addition to
the
standard charts. These laptops can treat the cruiser to a movie now and
again
with almost no power penalty.

That is really sad. Really. Honestly.

The fact is that TV has become a no-brainer for easy entertainment on many
a
cruising boat, espcially in recent years with flat panel displays.

Couldn't you find something to talk about, instead? It seems that you
(plural) would prefer to "be entertained" than to have to talk to each
other. Funny! One of the great things about a cruise, is that it really
brings the family togrether. You end up playing Scrabble, having
discussions, and generally enjoying *companionship*. These are probably
alien concepts for a New Yorker - and you have my deepest sympathy. I
would really hate to be what you are.

I guess that I am lucky, huh?

Anyone who
says otherwise is living in the past and hasn't read websites showing
today's
cruisers and what they carry. Books, music? Of course! But a TV can be a
great
treat for those aboard and doesn't need to stay home anymore.

It's probably more of a treat for those who have nothing to say to each
other, but would like to keep a physical relationship alive just so that
they can feel important.




Wake up and smell the 80's, kids. They've ended...long ago!

Let's welcome in "consumer relationships". eh?

Let's enjoy a "responsibility free" life until the relentless advance of
years triggers an enormous panic, and then we will get married. Let me tell
you, it doesn't work like that.


Regards


Donal
--

Calling yourself a day-sailor is an insult to all the day-sailors who
venture out of sight of land.

Off topic again, Donal. Wanna join the thread or make silly trolls?

RB