Why would anyone in their right mind want to do that???

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On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:53:18 -0400, "Capt. Mooron"
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| I'll bet Neal has a TV!

Nope... he don't!

CM


I'll bet that he does. When was the last time you were aboard his
"boat"?

BB

John, this is all quite obvious to anyone who actually ventures offshore.
I spent 10 days going down the cal coast for example. The only free
time we had was for eating, fixing stuff, sleeping, and enjoying the
natural environment of the ocean. Below decks was used mostly for
eating, sleeping, nav work, and using the head, and this was a pretty good
sized boat... 48' CT. I can't imagine anyone (except boober) wanting to
waste time watching TV.

"John Cairns" wrote in message
...
Hell, Jon, if Boob had done ANY long distance blue water sailing he would
realize two very important facts. 1. When you're underway, there is very
little extra time for leisure activities like watching movies. Think of
how
much time is available on a typical off-watch. 2. When you arrive at your
destination, there are usually more interesting or important things to do
than sit around watching movies. I think Boob has some strange ideas about
what life at SEA is about, these ideas have been reinforced by the crap
he's
seen at boat shows. About the only statement he made that had any basis in
reality was:
"Now I'm no long range cruiser"
I would add, he's no short distance cruiser either.
John Cairns

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
No. We've suggested that you're the idiot. YOU WIN!

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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It's been suggested by a few idiots that a TV had now place on a
modern
crusing
boat. Now I'm no long range cruiser, but facts are facts!

Have you ever heard of lots of unnecessary crap... apparently you like
it.

Space: Have you guys ever heard of "flat screen TV?" Uses little power
and
takes up even less space.
Safety: A properly mounted TV won't fly around in bad weather or a
knockdown.

So now you have a TV and a laptop. Wow, you're a pretty busy guy down
below
there. How about doing some sailing.

Power: Many long distance cruisers now carry nice laptops in addition
to
the
standard charts. These laptops can treat the cruiser to a movie now
and
again
with almost no power penalty.

The fact is that you're a no-brainer and you can entertain yourself.

The fact is that TV has become a no-brainer for easy entertainment on
many
a
cruising boat, espcially in recent years with flat panel displays.
Anyone
who
says otherwise is living in the past and hasn't read websites showing
today's
cruisers and what they carry. Books, music? Of course! But a TV can be
a
great
treat for those aboard and doesn't need to stay home anymore.

Wake up, get out of your apartment, and do some serious sailing. Then,
get
back
to us (or not).


Wake up and smell the 80's, kids. They've ended...long ago!

Bwahahahahaha!

RB

In my experience, it's exploring the destination, not sitting on the hook,
and especially not watching the Crying Game, as boober would do.

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
So what happens to these "long distance cruisers" when they arrive at
their
destination? When they sight land do they turn around and head back, like
the
Flying Dutchman? Most Long Distance Cruisers are coastal cruisers that,
on
occasion, make long passages.



"John Cairns" wrote in message
...
Hell, Jon, if Boob had done ANY long distance blue water sailing he
would
realize two very important facts. 1. When you're underway, there is very
little extra time for leisure activities like watching movies. Think of
how
much time is available on a typical off-watch. 2. When you arrive at
your
destination, there are usually more interesting or important things to
do
than sit around watching movies. I think Boob has some strange ideas
about
what life at SEA is about, these ideas have been reinforced by the crap
he's
seen at boat shows. About the only statement he made that had any basis
in
reality was:
"Now I'm no long range cruiser"
I would add, he's no short distance cruiser either.
John Cairns

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
No. We've suggested that you're the idiot. YOU WIN!

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
It's been suggested by a few idiots that a TV had now place on a
modern
crusing
boat. Now I'm no long range cruiser, but facts are facts!

Have you ever heard of lots of unnecessary crap... apparently you like
it.

Space: Have you guys ever heard of "flat screen TV?" Uses little
power
and
takes up even less space.
Safety: A properly mounted TV won't fly around in bad weather or a
knockdown.

So now you have a TV and a laptop. Wow, you're a pretty busy guy down
below
there. How about doing some sailing.

Power: Many long distance cruisers now carry nice laptops in
addition to
the
standard charts. These laptops can treat the cruiser to a movie now
and
again
with almost no power penalty.

The fact is that you're a no-brainer and you can entertain yourself.

The fact is that TV has become a no-brainer for easy entertainment
on
many
a
cruising boat, espcially in recent years with flat panel displays.
Anyone
who
says otherwise is living in the past and hasn't read websites
showing
today's
cruisers and what they carry. Books, music? Of course! But a TV can
be a
great
treat for those aboard and doesn't need to stay home anymore.

Wake up, get out of your apartment, and do some serious sailing. Then,
get
back
to us (or not).


Wake up and smell the 80's, kids. They've ended...long ago!

Bwahahahahaha!

RB

Oh well... they don't watch TV. They get off their duffs and explore and
have fun, but you're idea of having fun is to stick your face in front of
the
idiot box. I guess that makes sense. I apologize.

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
1. When you're underway, there is very
little extra time for leisure activities like watching movies.


Oh, I was under the impression and people who cruise actually stop for
long
periods or short. Oh well.

RB

No. Not always. It's easy to say "always," "never," and other absolutes.
You're really GREAT at winning this kind of argument. You're really
TERRIBLE at actually doing anything else. YOU WIN!

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
2. When you arrive at your
destination, there are usually more interesting or important things to do
than sit around watching movies.

Always?


RB

Tell you what, planning a little bareboating excursion to the Leewards in
the next month or so, where I'm sure I should run into a fair number of
"long distance cruisers". At the risk of being completely obnoxious, I'll
ask every single one that I encounter if they have a television or video
system on board, and how big their boat is. I'll tell them it's an informal
survey for my own curiosity, hell, maybe I'll tell them it's for this almost
pointless discussion. Then when we return I'll post the results. Might not
be scientific, though it should be interesting.
John Cairns
"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
1. When you're underway, there is very
little extra time for leisure activities like watching movies.


Oh, I was under the impression and people who cruise actually stop for
long
periods or short. Oh well.

RB

French porn, ooh la la......

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
...
Right.... sure Jeff. You'll take the time to watch French, Portugeese,
Italian, Spanish or Dutch television!!
Give it a rest will ya!

CM

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
| So what happens to these "long distance cruisers" when they arrive at
their
| destination? When they sight land do they turn around and head back,
like
the
| Flying Dutchman? Most Long Distance Cruisers are coastal cruisers that,
on
| occasion, make long passages.
|
|
|
| "John Cairns" wrote in message
| ...
| Hell, Jon, if Boob had done ANY long distance blue water sailing he
would
| realize two very important facts. 1. When you're underway, there is
very
| little extra time for leisure activities like watching movies. Think
of
how
| much time is available on a typical off-watch. 2. When you arrive at
your
| destination, there are usually more interesting or important things to
do
| than sit around watching movies. I think Boob has some strange ideas
about
| what life at SEA is about, these ideas have been reinforced by the
crap
he's
| seen at boat shows. About the only statement he made that had any
basis
in
| reality was:
| "Now I'm no long range cruiser"
| I would add, he's no short distance cruiser either.
| John Cairns
|
| "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
| ...
| No. We've suggested that you're the idiot. YOU WIN!
|
| "Bobsprit" wrote in message
| ...
| It's been suggested by a few idiots that a TV had now place on a
modern
| crusing
| boat. Now I'm no long range cruiser, but facts are facts!
|
| Have you ever heard of lots of unnecessary crap... apparently you
like
it.
|
| Space: Have you guys ever heard of "flat screen TV?" Uses little
power
| and
| takes up even less space.
| Safety: A properly mounted TV won't fly around in bad weather or a
| knockdown.
|
| So now you have a TV and a laptop. Wow, you're a pretty busy guy
down
| below
| there. How about doing some sailing.
|
| Power: Many long distance cruisers now carry nice laptops in
addition to
| the
| standard charts. These laptops can treat the cruiser to a movie
now
and
| again
| with almost no power penalty.
|
| The fact is that you're a no-brainer and you can entertain yourself.
|
| The fact is that TV has become a no-brainer for easy entertainment
on
| many
| a
| cruising boat, espcially in recent years with flat panel displays.
| Anyone
| who
| says otherwise is living in the past and hasn't read websites
showing
| today's
| cruisers and what they carry. Books, music? Of course! But a TV
can
be a
| great
| treat for those aboard and doesn't need to stay home anymore.
|
| Wake up, get out of your apartment, and do some serious sailing.
Then,
get
| back
| to us (or not).
|
|
| Wake up and smell the 80's, kids. They've ended...long ago!
|
| Bwahahahahaha!
|
| RB
|
|
|
|
|
|

"John Cairns" wrote ...
Hell, Jon, if Boob had done ANY long distance blue water sailing he

wouldn't be such an asshole all the time?

"Now I'm no long range cruiser"
I would add, he's no short distance cruiser either.


now John, he does claim he made a 3 day passage last year.

SV

Like I said, if this is your annual vacation, you probably want to "vacate." If
this is your life, you might want to watch the morning weather and news. The TV
I'm watching now I bought from a liveaboard who needed a different model to fit
with a VCR in a locker.


"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In my experience, it's exploring the destination, not sitting on the hook,
and especially not watching the Crying Game, as boober would do.

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
So what happens to these "long distance cruisers" when they arrive at
their
destination? When they sight land do they turn around and head back, like
the
Flying Dutchman? Most Long Distance Cruisers are coastal cruisers that,
on
occasion, make long passages.



"John Cairns" wrote in message
...
Hell, Jon, if Boob had done ANY long distance blue water sailing he
would
realize two very important facts. 1. When you're underway, there is very
little extra time for leisure activities like watching movies. Think of
how
much time is available on a typical off-watch. 2. When you arrive at
your
destination, there are usually more interesting or important things to
do
than sit around watching movies. I think Boob has some strange ideas
about
what life at SEA is about, these ideas have been reinforced by the crap
he's
seen at boat shows. About the only statement he made that had any basis
in
reality was:
"Now I'm no long range cruiser"
I would add, he's no short distance cruiser either.
John Cairns

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
No. We've suggested that you're the idiot. YOU WIN!

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
It's been suggested by a few idiots that a TV had now place on a
modern
crusing
boat. Now I'm no long range cruiser, but facts are facts!

Have you ever heard of lots of unnecessary crap... apparently you like
it.

Space: Have you guys ever heard of "flat screen TV?" Uses little
power
and
takes up even less space.
Safety: A properly mounted TV won't fly around in bad weather or a
knockdown.

So now you have a TV and a laptop. Wow, you're a pretty busy guy down
below
there. How about doing some sailing.

Power: Many long distance cruisers now carry nice laptops in
addition to
the
standard charts. These laptops can treat the cruiser to a movie now
and
again
with almost no power penalty.

The fact is that you're a no-brainer and you can entertain yourself.

The fact is that TV has become a no-brainer for easy entertainment
on
many
a
cruising boat, espcially in recent years with flat panel displays.
Anyone
who
says otherwise is living in the past and hasn't read websites
showing
today's
cruisers and what they carry. Books, music? Of course! But a TV can
be a
great
treat for those aboard and doesn't need to stay home anymore.

Wake up, get out of your apartment, and do some serious sailing. Then,
get
back
to us (or not).


Wake up and smell the 80's, kids. They've ended...long ago!

Bwahahahahaha!

RB

"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
Like I said, if this is your annual vacation, you probably want to
"vacate." If
this is your life, you might want to watch the morning weather and news.
The TV
I'm watching now I bought from a liveaboard who needed a different model
to fit
with a VCR in a locker.

We never mentioned "liveaboard", which carries with it completely different
nuances than "long distance cruiser". Even in these parts, we have
year-round liveaboards, one of whom even has dish-tv. Thing is, like many
liveaboards, he rarely goes anywhere on his boat, he just uses the boat as
his living quarters. Of course, by definition, long distance cruisers are
"liveaboards", but they sail their boats to different locations. The
difference is important, IMHO. If you're just living aboard and staying put,
you would probably load your boat down with as many creature comforts as
possible, if you spend most of your time traveling from place to place your
priorities would probably be somewhat different.
John Cairns