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Do really have a YM?

Do ya Donal? Take a picture and post it O Yachtmaster!

Which is it?

Yeah Which is it Lanod?

What endorsments do you carry?

No radar! Thats for sure.

What is your issue number? At the rate they were/are awarded I would
imagine
we will be within 1000 of each other.

What the Number Donal? Post a picture like Neil did. Put up or shut
up!

Don't need a picky Joe (but it would be nice). If the the number is around
1000 before mine he is probably cosher.



Go on, be brave, face me down on this one. I will eat humble pie if
needed
but IMO you are a faker!

JohnE

He's all talk with no knowledge John. Anyone that claims they had to
navigate with the windows blackened out and no imput has to be a
faker!

Joe
MSV RedCloud

Could be he's a tellypath ;-))

Possibly! One thing is certain - you aren't telepathic.

Tell us, how many Trans-Atlantic trips have you done?


Regards


Donal
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Some comments interspersed:

Joe wrote:


We always in a channel had another person on lookout, but keep in
mind he also had the duty of engineroom walkthrus. If you have ever
ran the mississippi this time of the year you would know what Im
talking about.

Been there done that.

You can have your deckhands face buried into another
radar, that the only way he is going to help lookout. To be looking
out the windows was a waste of time, the fog is that thick, your lucky
if you can see your bow.

I'm not a proponent of total immersion in the radar hood, though at
times it's necessary. I have always preferred to pull back, at times and
rest my eyes and attention .... sometimes, you might be able to see more
than you expect .... it's a total awareness thingy.

Donal is insane if he thinks it will help to
put a man on the bow of a crewboat doing 20 knots, I wouldent even
suggest that on a clear day in a channel, just incase you run aground
or hit a submerged object. At 20+ knts your not going to hear much
besides your own boat.

It may or may not, but here, the safety issue for the crew, is
paramount, and the communications issue, important.

And if he's yelling at something he see's it to late to do much about
it.

G Mebbe ... depends on whether you've also seen it and/or hit it.

The fact is Donal hasent a clue what a professional mariner can
accomplish with the proper tools. He thinks it best to put a person on
the bow because he does on a quiet sailboat doing 2 knots. Thats safe
to him because it will help him. On a crewboat your risking your crews
life doing something so stupid. 100 tons of aluminum going 20 knots
with a 180 pound kid on the bow...........in the fog...........

Id rather have him strapped in the wheelhouse learning how to use a
curser and ID targets.

Donal can not understand how someone could navigate a river or
channel at 20 + knot safely with radars as your only eyes. Donal has
no real pratical skills using a radar, or pratical skills at radar
plotting.

Now, let's be honest Joe G how often do you perform an actual "plot",
under these conditions with the equipment you have?

Rivers and canals are the best place to do this. With flat water you
can tune a radar to see the wake off a canoe. The outline of the banks
can be as familiar as seeing it in the day. Tanks on the banks,
Hunting shacks, channel markers, islands, bouys, docks, tree clumps,
logs and even seagrass clumps can be tuned in to a crystal clear
picture if you know what your looking at, and know how to use the
tool.

Would he argue so strongly if I said the wheelhouse was equiped with
FLIR?

BG I'm waiting for them to come up with a lightweight, portable,
inexpensive unit, that I can carry with me.

otn

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Donal,

My claim was to have taken the Yachtmater Exam that included the topic of
descussion, Blind Navigation. As I believe your claim was! As there is no
blind nav' on the Ocean course, either theory or practical, assuming you
have completed one or either (can't do Ocean without Offshore in any case)
then your provarication over confusion as to Offshore or Ocean still further
digs the hole you currently sitting in.

I am becoming more sceptical as to why is going to take still more time to
ID you certificate. Is this so can check for an appropriate name in the
correct time frame? After all, IF YOU do hold the ticket it is simply a case
of posting a number. This should only take moments should it not?

Come on, as I have said before, post it now and lets put this fantasy of
your to sleep...

I know what I have done, make no issues over my strengths of failings, or
the level of my certifaction. Why is it you still can't do such a simple
thig?

JohnE

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"Donal" wrote in message
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"John.E" wrote in message
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"Joe" wrote in message
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Do really have a YM?

Do ya Donal? Take a picture and post it O Yachtmaster!

Which is it?

Yeah Which is it Lanod?

What endorsments do you carry?

No radar! Thats for sure.

What is your issue number? At the rate they were/are awarded I would
imagine
we will be within 1000 of each other.

What the Number Donal? Post a picture like Neil did. Put up or shut
up!

Don't need a picky Joe (but it would be nice). If the the number is
around
1000 before mine he is probably cosher.



Go on, be brave, face me down on this one. I will eat humble pie if
needed
but IMO you are a faker!

JohnE

He's all talk with no knowledge John. Anyone that claims they had to
navigate with the windows blackened out and no imput has to be a
faker!

Joe
MSV RedCloud

Could be he's a tellypath ;-))

Possibly! One thing is certain - you aren't telepathic.

Tell us, how many Trans-Atlantic trips have you done?


Regards


Donal
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3 in total. Sigma 39 (UK - Antigua), Victoria 34 (Antigua - UK) and a Swan
40 (Canaries - St. Lucia).

And you?

JohnE

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Donal wrote:

I am under the impression that the "connisseurs"(sp?... I can see it's
wrong, but I don't know why!) do not rate it highly. However, to my simple
taste buds, it is as good as Bushmills Green Label, and yet only costs half
as much.


Well I'm hardly a connoisseur of Irish Whiskeys, but, IMHO, Tullamore is not as
good as Bushmills, (any label), it seems to be somewhat harsher, less smooth if
you will. However, it's just great for making Irish Coffee, which would probably
be a hanging offense if done with Bushmills Green! Sort of like mixing soda and adding
ice to Glenlivit (sp).

Cheers
Marty

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"John.E" wrote in message
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Donal,

snip

I am becoming more sceptical as to why is going to take still more time to
ID you certificate. Is this so can check for an appropriate name in the
correct time frame? After all, IF YOU do hold the ticket it is simply a
case
of posting a number. This should only take moments should it not?


Correct.


Come on, as I have said before, post it now and lets put this fantasy of
your to sleep...

I know what I have done, make no issues over my strengths of failings, or
the level of my certifaction. Why is it you still can't do such a simple
thig?


You are suffering from the delusion that I owe you any kind of response at
all.

Imagine that you walk into a strange pub. You overhear part of an argument
between two of the regulars. Would you introduce yourself by immediately
attacking the integrity of one of the participants?

That is exactly what you appear to have done here. Even worse, you have
incorrectly questioned my integrity.
You have behaved with outrageous impertinence, and I feel that you might
learn some manners if I treat you the same way.

As I have repeatedly said, I will prove you wrong within the next 6 days. I
deserve to get a little pleasure from the exercise.

Keep the cutlery ready!



Regards


Donal
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"Donal" wrote in message
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Imagine that you walk into a strange pub. You overhear part of an argument
between two of the regulars. Would you introduce yourself by immediately
attacking the integrity of one of the participants?

Are you taking the moral high ground?

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

Thanks, I needed a good laugh. Its -8F outside now. I can't go for a sail
because the harbor is frozen.

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otnmbrd wrote in message thlink.net...
Some comments interspersed:

Joe wrote:


We always in a channel had another person on lookout, but keep in
mind he also had the duty of engineroom walkthrus. If you have ever
ran the mississippi this time of the year you would know what Im
talking about.

Been there done that.

You can have your deckhands face buried into another
radar, that the only way he is going to help lookout. To be looking
out the windows was a waste of time, the fog is that thick, your lucky
if you can see your bow.

I'm not a proponent of total immersion in the radar hood, though at
times it's necessary. I have always preferred to pull back, at times and
rest my eyes and attention .... sometimes, you might be able to see more
than you expect .... it's a total awareness thingy.

Thats OK at night or offshore, but not a good ideal in the day or
river....
It's a night vision issue. Fof blindness is somewhat like snow
blindness



Donal is insane if he thinks it will help to
put a man on the bow of a crewboat doing 20 knots, I wouldent even
suggest that on a clear day in a channel, just incase you run aground
or hit a submerged object. At 20+ knts your not going to hear much
besides your own boat.

It may or may not, but here, the safety issue for the crew, is
paramount, and the communications issue, important.

Yeah, on a crewboat its dangerious and near impossiable to
communicate


And if he's yelling at something he see's it to late to do much about
it.

G Mebbe ... depends on whether you've also seen it and/or hit it.

If you can not see your bow, whats he going to see or prevent at
20kts?


The fact is Donal hasent a clue what a professional mariner can
accomplish with the proper tools. He thinks it best to put a person on
the bow because he does on a quiet sailboat doing 2 knots. Thats safe
to him because it will help him. On a crewboat your risking your crews
life doing something so stupid. 100 tons of aluminum going 20 knots
with a 180 pound kid on the bow...........in the fog...........

Id rather have him strapped in the wheelhouse learning how to use a
curser and ID targets.

Donal can not understand how someone could navigate a river or
channel at 20 + knot safely with radars as your only eyes. Donal has
no real pratical skills using a radar, or pratical skills at radar
plotting.

Now, let's be honest Joe G how often do you perform an actual "plot",
under these conditions with the equipment you have?


Plotting.... not often unless coming up on a seabouy with inbound
traffic or offshore. On the crewboats we did little plotting, but
supply and tow boats we plotted most targets, always when we were the
lead tow on a jack-up or semi.



Rivers and canals are the best place to do this. With flat water you
can tune a radar to see the wake off a canoe. The outline of the banks
can be as familiar as seeing it in the day. Tanks on the banks,
Hunting shacks, channel markers, islands, bouys, docks, tree clumps,
logs and even seagrass clumps can be tuned in to a crystal clear
picture if you know what your looking at, and know how to use the
tool.

Would he argue so strongly if I said the wheelhouse was equiped with
FLIR?

BG I'm waiting for them to come up with a lightweight, portable,
inexpensive unit, that I can carry with me.

Raytheon has a real cool unit you see on cop cars all the time now 7
grand.
not to portable, but awesome preformance. I know one crewboat the
Comet out of Freeport has one. We use to call the owner Capt. Gaget.
Totally tricked out boat.

Joe
MSV RedCloud


otn

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"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
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"Donal" wrote in message
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Imagine that you walk into a strange pub. You overhear part of an
argument
between two of the regulars. Would you introduce yourself by
immediately
attacking the integrity of one of the participants?

Are you taking the moral high ground?

Absolutely, and unreservedly!



BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

Don't laugh too much, or too soon.



Thanks, I needed a good laugh. Its -8F outside now. I can't go for a
sail
because the harbor is frozen.

I thought that you motorsailed everywhere?



Regards


Donal
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Are you taking the moral high ground?

Absolutely, and unreservedly!


Sorry, I used to have some respect for you, but you've used that up lately.



BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

Don't laugh too much, or too soon.


Why not? Regardless of the truth, your behaviour has been laughable!
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!




Thanks, I needed a good laugh. Its -8F outside now. I can't go for a
sail because the harbor is frozen.

I thought that you motorsailed everywhere?


It is ironic that while my current boat is the fastest I've had, and I've put a
lot of hours on the engines. Of course, I've done inland waterways from Toronto
to Key West. However, last year we were able to sail most of the time, once out
of the harbor. The cat just needs a bit of searoom to make it fun.