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Well I thought, if I dont tell ya, I don't Love ya!
Thom Stewart wrote:
Chris Sorry that is the "Devinci Code" must be my age! Ole Thom I read that a few weeks ago, cracking good book! Probably be easy to turn into a good screen play. Cheers marty |
Well I thought, if I dont tell ya, I don't Love ya!
OK, the name "Jesus" didn't exist back then. In fact, it was spelled "Iesus" in
the King James Bible. His Hebrew name would have been "Joshua" or a variation of that. "The_navigator©" wrote in message ... Well that's supicious for a start -the bible doesn't use his correct name???? Where's his birth records? Cheers MC Jeff Morris wrote: I'm not sure of that "record," but I think most informed observers would agree that Jesus probably did exist, that he was a Rabbi, and that he was crucified. The issue at doubt is his divinity. As for his name, it was rather common, and by Jewish tradition he had no last name. He would either be known as "... son of ..." or identified by his town. And by definition, religion, or perhaps I should say "faith", is irrational. "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... A man named Jesus is on historical record as having been crucified. If I remember the record correctly there were two other men crucified at the same time. The other two dead men were no more Gods than Jesus was. What was Jesus' last name anyway? Did he even have a last name? Funny how everybody else in those days seems to have had a last name. Maybe religious legends don't need a last name? Maybe religions are irrational? Yes, that's it. How one group of religious nuts can claim with absolute surety theirs is the only TRUE religion should tell any sane man that NONE of them are right! S.Simon "Donal" wrote in message ... "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... Jesus? Don't you mean Easter Bunny? There is NO Jesus, dummy. Jesus is a matter of historical fact! There is NO hard evidence that Jesus ever existed. Not even a fossil record. Bob, You're an idiot. Jesus Christ existed. He was crucified. Believe it or not, these facts are a matter of record. You live in a very young country. Perhaps you, mistakenly, think that records do not exist from the year 30AD. In fact, they do. There is *NO* doubt about the existence of Jesus. NONE whatsoever! The Romans were great beaurocrats. They kept written records of all public events. Both the Birth, and the Cruifixion of Christ are documented facts. You may well derive some personal gratification from the denunciation of Christ, but that is something that you will answer for. Christ existed. That's an Historical fact. Bush is a liar. That is also a fact! Regards Donal -- |
Well I thought, if I dont tell ya, I don't Love ya!
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Well I thought, if I dont tell ya, I don't Love ya!
MC,
Jesus was named a thousand years before there was a PR. His does raise some questions; The single name was common but he was called; Jesus, son of Mary, which was used when there was a question of Fathership. If he would have been Joesph son he would have been Jesus, son of Joesph. If he was believed to be the son of God, he should have been called Jesus the Son of God. This brings Constantan into the picture once again. The question of Divinity. Did Jesus walk this Earth as a human or as a God? This question split the Christian Church into the church of the East and the Church of the West. The Trinity was declared by Constantan but the question of his being remained in dought, as it still does today. Was Jesus a human or was he a God? The church of the West claims he walked this Earth as a God; the Church of the East claims he was human. The Son of Man, Chris, what is your belief of his status on Earth? Was he a human on the Cross or was he a God when he died for Jon, Nutsy, Neal and all of Mankind? Ole Thom |
A true story - having actually talked to Jesus
I know what you mean... I got this email from my mom a couple
of years ago. She's, btw, quite anti-religious... always has been. My father had died maybe 6 mos before I got this particular email. She was having a problem with some rodents that were in the garage and I had suggested she get some bait. "I will check around some more next week. One person told me that the bait can be obtained at the Agriculture Dept in ???. I can't ask Jesus to go all the way there. It is about 25 miles each way and he works on his route 6 days a week. I would have no way of finding my way in ???. I get lost in this city more often than I would like to confess and this city is only 7 miles square. I'll speak to some more companies on Monday after the lab or on Tuesday and then I will see if Willie (handyman) will go. If he will, I can get Jesus to hang the canisters. If not, I don't know, at this point, what to do except wait until you come here in September. Maybe one of the companies has the bait. I have a few to call yet but they consider anything concerning trees horticultural and their licenses don't permit them to handle that kind of pest control. I'll let you know what Jesus says." Of course, I was a bit shocked by this. Either my mom had a religious conversion, or she had finally gone over the edge. I called her immediately, trying to dance around the subject. Finally, Jesus came up in the conversation. I asked her when she saw him or talked to him last. She told me he was there right now. So, being cagey, I asked if I could talk to him. She said no, that he was outside working. I told her it was really important, so she said ok. Then, he got on the phone. Now, I've never talked to Jesus before, but after about 2 seconds, I realized he was the hispanic gardner. wrote in message ... On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 17:03:24 +1300, The_navigator© wrote: Well that's supicious for a start -the bible doesn't use his correct name???? Where's his birth records? Yeah! And if he's Jewish, how come he has a Puerto Rican name? BB Cheers MC Jeff Morris wrote: I'm not sure of that "record," but I think most informed observers would agree that Jesus probably did exist, that he was a Rabbi, and that he was crucified. The issue at doubt is his divinity. As for his name, it was rather common, and by Jewish tradition he had no last name. He would either be known as "... son of ..." or identified by his town. And by definition, religion, or perhaps I should say "faith", is irrational. "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... A man named Jesus is on historical record as having been crucified. If I remember the record correctly there were two other men crucified at the same time. The other two dead men were no more Gods than Jesus was. What was Jesus' last name anyway? Did he even have a last name? Funny how everybody else in those days seems to have had a last name. Maybe religious legends don't need a last name? Maybe religions are irrational? Yes, that's it. How one group of religious nuts can claim with absolute surety theirs is the only TRUE religion should tell any sane man that NONE of them are right! S.Simon "Donal" wrote in message ... "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... Jesus? Don't you mean Easter Bunny? There is NO Jesus, dummy. Jesus is a matter of historical fact! There is NO hard evidence that Jesus ever existed. Not even a fossil record. Bob, You're an idiot. Jesus Christ existed. He was crucified. Believe it or not, these facts are a matter of record. You live in a very young country. Perhaps you, mistakenly, think that records do not exist from the year 30AD. In fact, they do. There is *NO* doubt about the existence of Jesus. NONE whatsoever! The Romans were great beaurocrats. They kept written records of all public events. Both the Birth, and the Cruifixion of Christ are documented facts. You may well derive some personal gratification from the denunciation of Christ, but that is something that you will answer for. Christ existed. That's an Historical fact. Bush is a liar. That is also a fact! Regards Donal -- |
Well I thought, if I dont tell ya, I don't Love ya!
Are you saying we don't actually know his name???????????
Cheers MC Jeff Morris wrote: OK, the name "Jesus" didn't exist back then. In fact, it was spelled "Iesus" in the King James Bible. His Hebrew name would have been "Joshua" or a variation of that. "The_navigator©" wrote in message ... Well that's supicious for a start -the bible doesn't use his correct name???? Where's his birth records? Cheers MC Jeff Morris wrote: I'm not sure of that "record," but I think most informed observers would agree that Jesus probably did exist, that he was a Rabbi, and that he was crucified. The issue at doubt is his divinity. As for his name, it was rather common, and by Jewish tradition he had no last name. He would either be known as "... son of ..." or identified by his town. And by definition, religion, or perhaps I should say "faith", is irrational. "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... A man named Jesus is on historical record as having been crucified. If I remember the record correctly there were two other men crucified at the same time. The other two dead men were no more Gods than Jesus was. What was Jesus' last name anyway? Did he even have a last name? Funny how everybody else in those days seems to have had a last name. Maybe religious legends don't need a last name? Maybe religions are irrational? Yes, that's it. How one group of religious nuts can claim with absolute surety theirs is the only TRUE religion should tell any sane man that NONE of them are right! S.Simon "Donal" wrote in message .. . "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... Jesus? Don't you mean Easter Bunny? There is NO Jesus, dummy. Jesus is a matter of historical fact! There is NO hard evidence that Jesus ever existed. Not even a fossil record. Bob, You're an idiot. Jesus Christ existed. He was crucified. Believe it or not, these facts are a matter of record. You live in a very young country. Perhaps you, mistakenly, think that records do not exist from the year 30AD. In fact, they do. There is *NO* doubt about the existence of Jesus. NONE whatsoever! The Romans were great beaurocrats. They kept written records of all public events. Both the Birth, and the Cruifixion of Christ are documented facts. You may well derive some personal gratification from the denunciation of Christ, but that is something that you will answer for. Christ existed. That's an Historical fact. Bush is a liar. That is also a fact! Regards Donal -- |
Well I thought, if I dont tell ya, I don't Love ya!
Any religion based on the Bible is a religion based
on a story book and a less than accurate one at that produced by various authors and edited half to death to suit compilers. The Bible has got to be the second biggest joke on humanity right after the concept of organized religion worshipping whatever God they happen to fancy. S.Simon "The_navigator©" wrote in message ... Are you saying we don't actually know his name??????????? Cheers MC Jeff Morris wrote: OK, the name "Jesus" didn't exist back then. In fact, it was spelled "Iesus" in the King James Bible. His Hebrew name would have been "Joshua" or a variation of that. "The_navigator©" wrote in message ... Well that's supicious for a start -the bible doesn't use his correct name???? Where's his birth records? Cheers MC Jeff Morris wrote: I'm not sure of that "record," but I think most informed observers would agree that Jesus probably did exist, that he was a Rabbi, and that he was crucified. The issue at doubt is his divinity. As for his name, it was rather common, and by Jewish tradition he had no last name. He would either be known as "... son of ..." or identified by his town. And by definition, religion, or perhaps I should say "faith", is irrational. "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... A man named Jesus is on historical record as having been crucified. If I remember the record correctly there were two other men crucified at the same time. The other two dead men were no more Gods than Jesus was. What was Jesus' last name anyway? Did he even have a last name? Funny how everybody else in those days seems to have had a last name. Maybe religious legends don't need a last name? Maybe religions are irrational? Yes, that's it. How one group of religious nuts can claim with absolute surety theirs is the only TRUE religion should tell any sane man that NONE of them are right! S.Simon "Donal" wrote in message .. . "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... Jesus? Don't you mean Easter Bunny? There is NO Jesus, dummy. Jesus is a matter of historical fact! There is NO hard evidence that Jesus ever existed. Not even a fossil record. Bob, You're an idiot. Jesus Christ existed. He was crucified. Believe it or not, these facts are a matter of record. You live in a very young country. Perhaps you, mistakenly, think that records do not exist from the year 30AD. In fact, they do. There is *NO* doubt about the existence of Jesus. NONE whatsoever! The Romans were great beaurocrats. They kept written records of all public events. Both the Birth, and the Cruifixion of Christ are documented facts. You may well derive some personal gratification from the denunciation of Christ, but that is something that you will answer for. Christ existed. That's an Historical fact. Bush is a liar. That is also a fact! Regards Donal -- |
Well I thought, if I dont tell ya, I don't Love ya!
Frankly, you're asking the wrong person - you might ask someone that cares.
Part of the "uncertainty" is that the likely Hebrew name is sometimes written in English as Joshua, but is actually closer to Yahoshua. And, of course, the vernacular was a version of Aramaic. "The_navigator©" wrote in message ... Are you saying we don't actually know his name??????????? Cheers MC Jeff Morris wrote: OK, the name "Jesus" didn't exist back then. In fact, it was spelled "Iesus" in the King James Bible. His Hebrew name would have been "Joshua" or a variation of that. "The_navigator©" wrote in message ... Well that's supicious for a start -the bible doesn't use his correct name???? Where's his birth records? Cheers MC Jeff Morris wrote: I'm not sure of that "record," but I think most informed observers would agree that Jesus probably did exist, that he was a Rabbi, and that he was crucified. The issue at doubt is his divinity. As for his name, it was rather common, and by Jewish tradition he had no last name. He would either be known as "... son of ..." or identified by his town. And by definition, religion, or perhaps I should say "faith", is irrational. "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... A man named Jesus is on historical record as having been crucified. If I remember the record correctly there were two other men crucified at the same time. The other two dead men were no more Gods than Jesus was. What was Jesus' last name anyway? Did he even have a last name? Funny how everybody else in those days seems to have had a last name. Maybe religious legends don't need a last name? Maybe religions are irrational? Yes, that's it. How one group of religious nuts can claim with absolute surety theirs is the only TRUE religion should tell any sane man that NONE of them are right! S.Simon "Donal" wrote in message .. . "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... Jesus? Don't you mean Easter Bunny? There is NO Jesus, dummy. Jesus is a matter of historical fact! There is NO hard evidence that Jesus ever existed. Not even a fossil record. Bob, You're an idiot. Jesus Christ existed. He was crucified. Believe it or not, these facts are a matter of record. You live in a very young country. Perhaps you, mistakenly, think that records do not exist from the year 30AD. In fact, they do. There is *NO* doubt about the existence of Jesus. NONE whatsoever! The Romans were great beaurocrats. They kept written records of all public events. Both the Birth, and the Cruifixion of Christ are documented facts. You may well derive some personal gratification from the denunciation of Christ, but that is something that you will answer for. Christ existed. That's an Historical fact. Bush is a liar. That is also a fact! Regards Donal -- |
Well I thought, if I dont tell ya, I don't Love ya!
I guess you are confriming that there is no factual evidence that this
person existed. I suspected as much. Cheers MC Jeff Morris wrote: Frankly, you're asking the wrong person - you might ask someone that cares. Part of the "uncertainty" is that the likely Hebrew name is sometimes written in English as Joshua, but is actually closer to Yahoshua. And, of course, the vernacular was a version of Aramaic. "The_navigator©" wrote in message ... Are you saying we don't actually know his name??????????? Cheers MC Jeff Morris wrote: OK, the name "Jesus" didn't exist back then. In fact, it was spelled "Iesus" in the King James Bible. His Hebrew name would have been "Joshua" or a variation of that. "The_navigator©" wrote in message ... Well that's supicious for a start -the bible doesn't use his correct name???? Where's his birth records? Cheers MC Jeff Morris wrote: I'm not sure of that "record," but I think most informed observers would agree that Jesus probably did exist, that he was a Rabbi, and that he was crucified. The issue at doubt is his divinity. As for his name, it was rather common, and by Jewish tradition he had no last name. He would either be known as "... son of ..." or identified by his town. And by definition, religion, or perhaps I should say "faith", is irrational. "Simple Simon" wrote in message ... A man named Jesus is on historical record as having been crucified. If I remember the record correctly there were two other men crucified at the same time. The other two dead men were no more Gods than Jesus was. What was Jesus' last name anyway? Did he even have a last name? Funny how everybody else in those days seems to have had a last name. Maybe religious legends don't need a last name? Maybe religions are irrational? Yes, that's it. How one group of religious nuts can claim with absolute surety theirs is the only TRUE religion should tell any sane man that NONE of them are right! S.Simon "Donal" wrote in message .. . "Bobsprit" wrote in message ... Jesus? Don't you mean Easter Bunny? There is NO Jesus, dummy. Jesus is a matter of historical fact! There is NO hard evidence that Jesus ever existed. Not even a fossil record. Bob, You're an idiot. Jesus Christ existed. He was crucified. Believe it or not, these facts are a matter of record. You live in a very young country. Perhaps you, mistakenly, think that records do not exist from the year 30AD. In fact, they do. There is *NO* doubt about the existence of Jesus. NONE whatsoever! The Romans were great beaurocrats. They kept written records of all public events. Both the Birth, and the Cruifixion of Christ are documented facts. You may well derive some personal gratification from the denunciation of Christ, but that is something that you will answer for. Christ existed. That's an Historical fact. Bush is a liar. That is also a fact! Regards Donal -- |
Well I thought, if I dont tell ya, I don't Love ya!
The Bible has got to be the second
biggest joke on humanity right after the concept of organized religion worshipping whatever God they happen to fancy. The Bible is the ultimate "How To cheat and scam People out of Money, Freedom and Truth" manual. The funny part is that people read it. They disregard elements and keep others to support their system. It's no different from Horrorscopes, though more sophisticated. RB |
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