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Everyone should know what a steak really costs......
People don't wnat to know...they want to live their nice clean = complacent lives where pain, dirt, sualor and misery never touch them = and reality is what you see on TV.... This society would be doomed if there ever was a cataclysmic event that = took away all their toys and fureblows...truly only the strong and able = would be the survivors...Neal would perish since he would not be able to = kill an animal to feed himself (yet he merrily broils pork chops on his = grill...never had a thought for the pig that donated that meat). --=20 katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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Who said I could not kill an animal for food? Your assumptions are totally
incorrect and naive as usual. I can and do kill lobsters, fish, shrimp etc. for food. When I was a boy on the farm I killed chickens and turkeys, helped with butchering pigs and cows and have no regrets. A man's gotta eat. However a pet is a different story. A pet is part of the family and a surrogate human by the obligation one assumes when one accepts a pet into the family. This places the pet in a different realm than a farm animal and one must treat the pet like one would treat a member of the family. Is this so hard to understand. It's more a matter of obligations assumed at the outset and meeting those obligations. Standards assumed are standards not to be tossed aside lightly. S.Simon "katysails" wrote in message ... Everyone should know what a steak really costs...... People don't wnat to know...they want to live their nice clean complacent lives where pain, dirt, sualor and misery never touch them and reality is what you see on TV.... This society would be doomed if there ever was a cataclysmic event that took away all their toys and fureblows...truly only the strong and able would be the survivors...Neal would perish since he would not be able to kill an animal to feed himself (yet he merrily broils pork chops on his grill...never had a thought for the pig that donated that meat). -- katysails s/v Chanteuse Kirie Elite 32 http://katysails.tripod.com "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein |
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Simple Simon wrote:
... However a pet is a different story. A pet is part of the family and a surrogate human .... Can you not see the madness in that notion? Remember the farm? In my day the cat went out to hunt rodents and the dog came in to bark intruders come bed time. Come daylight their places reversed but their jobs stayed the same. We loved these animals - hell I still love cattle - but we never, ever thot of them as surrogate humans or part of the family any more than I thot of a beloved car, bike or boat as a surrogate human. That IS sick, and the only people I know who exhibit that illness are demonstrably unbalanced - folks who cannot get the companionship they seem to need naturally. A healthy man derives sufficient companionship from friends at a pub, sports bar, et cetera, and from wife and family; those who cannot get it thru an unnatural relationship with a pet. In their demented minds the pet takes on the human characteristics they yearn for until they begin to think like you. It's become so common in our urban culture that many, divorced from nature, begin to think it natural. It is not. |
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