You show all this compassion for a dear departed pet, but cannot show
compassion at the difficult decision made? You elevate an animal above a
person in your actions. It is not a lack of morals or concience, but the
conviction to those morals that allows a person to end the suffering of a
dear friend, as difficult as it can be. You on the otherhand use the
opportunity to ridicule and be hurtful rather than show empathy and
compassion, or even disinterest.. But that is in keeping with your
character.
"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Negative!

What I cannot abide, however, is people who write things
that indicate they consider their pets as just another throwaway
toy. There is all too much of this crap going on these days. What's
worse these people expect support and sympathy for their
moral decriptitude.

People move into an apartment or house where pets are not
allowed in the lease so they dump their pets out of the car
along the road somewhere. Or, people meet another person
who is alergic to their pets so they get rid of the pet at the
pound. The pet gets sick and it will be expensive to treat
so they have the vet kill it and on and on. People have many
excuses but what it all boils down to is FAILURE to accept
obligations because it is inconvenient to do so.

This indicates a total lack of conscience, morals and respect
for life in general. This is true psychotic behavior but so many
people exhibit it that it has blurred the norm. But, still, people
will continue to attempt to justify it by claiming they killed their
pet for whatever reason when the ONLY valid reason to ever
kill a pet is if it is suffering greatly and has no chance to live.
Only then can it be considered humane to kill the animal.
A real man will do the killing himself - not take the animal
to the vet which is another failure to live up to obligations.

It is never humane to abandon a pet. It is never humane to
regeg on your obligations to your pet. You willingly take on
the obligation. It shows a lack of morals to change your mind.
Too many people these days have no morals. They do whatever
is most convenient at any given time but what disgusts me is
they lie to themselves and attempt to justify this lack of morals
with lame excuses that simply don't make any logical or moral sense.

If my words can sway one opinion and save one animal they are
worth it. I don't care what people think of me for writing these
words.

S.Simon - loves and respects animals


"The Carrolls" wrote in message
...
Boyoh boy, you must have hated recess when you were a kid.
"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
The Navigator's Lament

I had a kitten and I loved her so much
She was playful and gentle and so nice to touch.
But alas she went blind
And in my warped mind
A handicapped cat might never survive
And I fancied her better off dead than alive.
So I KILLED her . . .



S.Simon - loves animals

There comes a time in most animals lives, when the quality of life is gone,
when only suffering and pain remain. Most animals reaching that point
probably wish to die. I think I would. Those who care the most have an
obligation to ease that suffering. The hard part is knowing when "to be"
should give way to "not to be."


"The Carrolls" wrote in message
...
You show all this compassion for a dear departed pet, but cannot show
compassion at the difficult decision made? You elevate an animal above a
person in your actions. It is not a lack of morals or concience, but the
conviction to those morals that allows a person to end the suffering of a
dear friend, as difficult as it can be. You on the otherhand use the
opportunity to ridicule and be hurtful rather than show empathy and
compassion, or even disinterest.. But that is in keeping with your
character.
"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Negative!

What I cannot abide, however, is people who write things
that indicate they consider their pets as just another throwaway
toy. There is all too much of this crap going on these days. What's
worse these people expect support and sympathy for their
moral decriptitude.

People move into an apartment or house where pets are not
allowed in the lease so they dump their pets out of the car
along the road somewhere. Or, people meet another person
who is alergic to their pets so they get rid of the pet at the
pound. The pet gets sick and it will be expensive to treat
so they have the vet kill it and on and on. People have many
excuses but what it all boils down to is FAILURE to accept
obligations because it is inconvenient to do so.

This indicates a total lack of conscience, morals and respect
for life in general. This is true psychotic behavior but so many
people exhibit it that it has blurred the norm. But, still, people
will continue to attempt to justify it by claiming they killed their
pet for whatever reason when the ONLY valid reason to ever
kill a pet is if it is suffering greatly and has no chance to live.
Only then can it be considered humane to kill the animal.
A real man will do the killing himself - not take the animal
to the vet which is another failure to live up to obligations.

It is never humane to abandon a pet. It is never humane to
regeg on your obligations to your pet. You willingly take on
the obligation. It shows a lack of morals to change your mind.
Too many people these days have no morals. They do whatever
is most convenient at any given time but what disgusts me is
they lie to themselves and attempt to justify this lack of morals
with lame excuses that simply don't make any logical or moral sense.

If my words can sway one opinion and save one animal they are
worth it. I don't care what people think of me for writing these
words.

S.Simon - loves and respects animals


"The Carrolls" wrote in message
...
Boyoh boy, you must have hated recess when you were a kid.
"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
The Navigator's Lament

I had a kitten and I loved her so much
She was playful and gentle and so nice to touch.
But alas she went blind
And in my warped mind
A handicapped cat might never survive
And I fancied her better off dead than alive.
So I KILLED her . . .



S.Simon - loves animals

You're not very intelligent, are you? Either that or you're just
an illogical contrarian. I did not show compassion for Minx.
I did not know the little animal so how can I show compassion
for an unkown entity.

What I did show was loathing for a very large subset of people
who assume the obligation of a pet and then because the animal
does not live up to their expectations or becomes more trouble
than assumed these people abandon or have their pet killed.

They then expect sympathy from people for their "loss" not even
understanding that they suffered no "loss". Losing something and
throwing it away on purpose are two different things. Minx was
thrown away. She was not lost. Why is this so hard to understand?

I think it's easy to understand but the same subset of people who
abandon and kill and call it losing don't allow themselves to see the
truth because the truth hurts and recognizing it as the truth would
require attitudes to change. Better to lie than to change. Better to
call killing losing than to be truthful. This is sickness pure.

S.Simon


"The Carrolls" wrote in message ...
You show all this compassion for a dear departed pet, but cannot show
compassion at the difficult decision made? You elevate an animal above a
person in your actions. It is not a lack of morals or concience, but the
conviction to those morals that allows a person to end the suffering of a
dear friend, as difficult as it can be. You on the otherhand use the
opportunity to ridicule and be hurtful rather than show empathy and
compassion, or even disinterest.. But that is in keeping with your
character.
"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Negative!

What I cannot abide, however, is people who write things
that indicate they consider their pets as just another throwaway
toy. There is all too much of this crap going on these days. What's
worse these people expect support and sympathy for their
moral decriptitude.

People move into an apartment or house where pets are not
allowed in the lease so they dump their pets out of the car
along the road somewhere. Or, people meet another person
who is alergic to their pets so they get rid of the pet at the
pound. The pet gets sick and it will be expensive to treat
so they have the vet kill it and on and on. People have many
excuses but what it all boils down to is FAILURE to accept
obligations because it is inconvenient to do so.

This indicates a total lack of conscience, morals and respect
for life in general. This is true psychotic behavior but so many
people exhibit it that it has blurred the norm. But, still, people
will continue to attempt to justify it by claiming they killed their
pet for whatever reason when the ONLY valid reason to ever
kill a pet is if it is suffering greatly and has no chance to live.
Only then can it be considered humane to kill the animal.
A real man will do the killing himself - not take the animal
to the vet which is another failure to live up to obligations.

It is never humane to abandon a pet. It is never humane to
regeg on your obligations to your pet. You willingly take on
the obligation. It shows a lack of morals to change your mind.
Too many people these days have no morals. They do whatever
is most convenient at any given time but what disgusts me is
they lie to themselves and attempt to justify this lack of morals
with lame excuses that simply don't make any logical or moral sense.

If my words can sway one opinion and save one animal they are
worth it. I don't care what people think of me for writing these
words.

S.Simon - loves and respects animals


"The Carrolls" wrote in message
...
Boyoh boy, you must have hated recess when you were a kid.
"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
The Navigator's Lament

I had a kitten and I loved her so much
She was playful and gentle and so nice to touch.
But alas she went blind
And in my warped mind
A handicapped cat might never survive
And I fancied her better off dead than alive.
So I KILLED her . . .



S.Simon - loves animals

No Minxy was taken from us by a disease. Her life was ended before she
suffered more and I stand by my humane decision that was recommended by
animal care experts.

MC

Simple Simon wrote:

Minx was
thrown away. She was not lost. Why is this so hard to understand?

I think it's easy to understand but the same subset of people who
abandon and kill and call it losing don't allow themselves to see the
truth because the truth hurts and recognizing it as the truth would
require attitudes to change. Better to lie than to change. Better to
call killing losing than to be truthful. This is sickness pure.

I frankly shocked that you can be so ugly and unjust. With no facts you
act as judge jury and executioner -perhaps you want to punish me for
disparaging comments on your new sails? Pathetic.

MC


Simple Simon wrote:

The Navigator's Lament

I had a kitten and I loved her so much
She was playful and gentle and so nice to touch.
But alas she went blind
And in my warped mind
A handicapped cat might never survive
And I fancied her better off dead than alive.
So I KILLED her . . .



S.Simon - loves animals

It would seem to me it is up to you to prove me wrong.

So far there has been precious little evidence coming
from you that I was wrong. Why, you won't even
put a name to this horrible and painful disease you
say your kitten suffered from. The conclusions I
draw come from the words you wrote. Try writing
something more informative and I might consider
apologizing for being too harsh on you.

I attacked you more out of a desire to point out
pets are a very great responsiblilty not to be assumed
lightly. They represent an obligation not to be dismissed
easily. I felt you were an example of rather callous
behavior regarding pets that is epidemic these days.
I suppose it's useless to expect even one person
to agree with me these days but I have to try at least.

S.Simon

"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...
I frankly shocked that you can be so ugly and unjust. With no facts you
act as judge jury and executioner -perhaps you want to punish me for
disparaging comments on your new sails? Pathetic.

MC


Simple Simon wrote:

The Navigator's Lament

I had a kitten and I loved her so much
She was playful and gentle and so nice to touch.
But alas she went blind
And in my warped mind
A handicapped cat might never survive
And I fancied her better off dead than alive.
So I KILLED her . . .



S.Simon - loves animals

As someone who has been involved with a particular rescue organization
for a particular breed of dog, I have to agree with Neal's basic premise
that too many people consider pets to be some form of disposable toy,
rather than a long term responsibility.
However, having also been involved with the necessity of putting an
animal "down" more than once, with the attendant worry that it was the
right thing to do at the right time, I did not get the sense that the
"Navigator" took his decision lightly, nor does he need to explain his
reasons to those of us not there and/or familiar with the situation that
existed, at the time ..... nuff said.

otn

Simple Simon wrote:
It would seem to me it is up to you to prove me wrong.

So far there has been precious little evidence coming
from you that I was wrong. Why, you won't even
put a name to this horrible and painful disease you
say your kitten suffered from. The conclusions I
draw come from the words you wrote. Try writing
something more informative and I might consider
apologizing for being too harsh on you.

I attacked you more out of a desire to point out
pets are a very great responsiblilty not to be assumed
lightly. They represent an obligation not to be dismissed
easily. I felt you were an example of rather callous
behavior regarding pets that is epidemic these days.
I suppose it's useless to expect even one person
to agree with me these days but I have to try at least.

S.Simon

"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...

I frankly shocked that you can be so ugly and unjust. With no facts you
act as judge jury and executioner -perhaps you want to punish me for
disparaging comments on your new sails? Pathetic.

MC


Simple Simon wrote:


The Navigator's Lament

I had a kitten and I loved her so much
She was playful and gentle and so nice to touch.
But alas she went blind
And in my warped mind
A handicapped cat might never survive
And I fancied her better off dead than alive.
So I KILLED her . . .



S.Simon - loves animals

Epitaph To A Dog

When some proud son of man returns to earth,
Unknown to glory, but upheld by birth,
The sculptor's art exhausts the pomp of woe,
And storied urns record who rests below.
When all is done, upon the tomb is seen,
Not what he was, but what he should have been.
But the poor dog, in life the firmest friend,
The first to welcome, foremost to defend,
Whose honest heart is still his master's own,
Who labors, fights, lives, breathes for him alone,
Unhonored falls, unnoticed all his worth,
Denied in heaven the soul he held on earth-
While man, vain insect! hopes to be forgiven,
And claims himself a sole exclusive heaven.
Oh man! thou feeble tenant of an hour,
Debased by slavery, or corrupt by power-
Who knows thee well must quit thee with disgust,
Degraded mass of animated dust!
Thy love is lust, thy friendship all a cheat,
Thy smiles hypocrisy, thy words deceit!
By nature vile,ennobled but by name,
Each kindred brute might bid thee blush for shame.
Ye, who perchance behold this simple urn,
Pass on-it honors none you wish to mourn.
To mark a friend's remains these stones arise;
I never knew but one-and here he lies.

Lord Byron
(tribute to "Boatswain" on a monument in the garden of Newstead Abbey)


************************************************
************************************************

For days the good old bitch had been dying, her back
pinched down to the spine and arched to ease the pain,
her kidneys dry, her muzzle white. At last
I took a shovel into the woods and dug her grave
in preparation for the certain. She came along,
which I had not expected. Still, the children gone,
such expeditions were rare, and the dog,
spayed early, knew no nonhuman word for love.
She made her stiff legs trot and let her bent tail wag.
We found a spot we liked, where the pines met the field.

The sun warmed her fur as she dozed and I dug;
I carved her a safe place while she protected me.
I measured her length with the shovel's long handle;
she perked in amusement, and sniffed the heaped-up earth.

Back down at the house, she seemed friskier,
but gagged, eating. We called the vet a few days later.
They were old friends. She held up a paw, and he
injected a violet fluid. She swooned on the lawn;
we watched her breathing quickly slow and cease.
In a wheelbarrow up to the hole, her warm fur shone.

John Updike

That's the first time I've ever shed a tear at something written by =
Updike...

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