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Simple Simon October 8th 03 04:16 PM

Killing Pets
 
You're not very intelligent, are you? Either that or you're just
an illogical contrarian. I did not show compassion for Minx.
I did not know the little animal so how can I show compassion
for an unkown entity.

What I did show was loathing for a very large subset of people
who assume the obligation of a pet and then because the animal
does not live up to their expectations or becomes more trouble
than assumed these people abandon or have their pet killed.

They then expect sympathy from people for their "loss" not even
understanding that they suffered no "loss". Losing something and
throwing it away on purpose are two different things. Minx was
thrown away. She was not lost. Why is this so hard to understand?

I think it's easy to understand but the same subset of people who
abandon and kill and call it losing don't allow themselves to see the
truth because the truth hurts and recognizing it as the truth would
require attitudes to change. Better to lie than to change. Better to
call killing losing than to be truthful. This is sickness pure.

S.Simon


"The Carrolls" wrote in message ...
You show all this compassion for a dear departed pet, but cannot show
compassion at the difficult decision made? You elevate an animal above a
person in your actions. It is not a lack of morals or concience, but the
conviction to those morals that allows a person to end the suffering of a
dear friend, as difficult as it can be. You on the otherhand use the
opportunity to ridicule and be hurtful rather than show empathy and
compassion, or even disinterest.. But that is in keeping with your
character.
"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Negative!

What I cannot abide, however, is people who write things
that indicate they consider their pets as just another throwaway
toy. There is all too much of this crap going on these days. What's
worse these people expect support and sympathy for their
moral decriptitude.

People move into an apartment or house where pets are not
allowed in the lease so they dump their pets out of the car
along the road somewhere. Or, people meet another person
who is alergic to their pets so they get rid of the pet at the
pound. The pet gets sick and it will be expensive to treat
so they have the vet kill it and on and on. People have many
excuses but what it all boils down to is FAILURE to accept
obligations because it is inconvenient to do so.

This indicates a total lack of conscience, morals and respect
for life in general. This is true psychotic behavior but so many
people exhibit it that it has blurred the norm. But, still, people
will continue to attempt to justify it by claiming they killed their
pet for whatever reason when the ONLY valid reason to ever
kill a pet is if it is suffering greatly and has no chance to live.
Only then can it be considered humane to kill the animal.
A real man will do the killing himself - not take the animal
to the vet which is another failure to live up to obligations.

It is never humane to abandon a pet. It is never humane to
regeg on your obligations to your pet. You willingly take on
the obligation. It shows a lack of morals to change your mind.
Too many people these days have no morals. They do whatever
is most convenient at any given time but what disgusts me is
they lie to themselves and attempt to justify this lack of morals
with lame excuses that simply don't make any logical or moral sense.

If my words can sway one opinion and save one animal they are
worth it. I don't care what people think of me for writing these
words.

S.Simon - loves and respects animals


"The Carrolls" wrote in message

...
Boyoh boy, you must have hated recess when you were a kid.
"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
The Navigator's Lament

I had a kitten and I loved her so much
She was playful and gentle and so nice to touch.
But alas she went blind
And in my warped mind
A handicapped cat might never survive
And I fancied her better off dead than alive.
So I KILLED her . . .



S.Simon - loves animals











The_navigator© October 8th 03 09:51 PM

Killing Pets
 
No Minxy was taken from us by a disease. Her life was ended before she
suffered more and I stand by my humane decision that was recommended by
animal care experts.

MC

Simple Simon wrote:

Minx was
thrown away. She was not lost. Why is this so hard to understand?

I think it's easy to understand but the same subset of people who
abandon and kill and call it losing don't allow themselves to see the
truth because the truth hurts and recognizing it as the truth would
require attitudes to change. Better to lie than to change. Better to
call killing losing than to be truthful. This is sickness pure.



The_navigator© October 8th 03 10:02 PM

Navigator's lament
 
I frankly shocked that you can be so ugly and unjust. With no facts you
act as judge jury and executioner -perhaps you want to punish me for
disparaging comments on your new sails? Pathetic.

MC


Simple Simon wrote:

The Navigator's Lament

I had a kitten and I loved her so much
She was playful and gentle and so nice to touch.
But alas she went blind
And in my warped mind
A handicapped cat might never survive
And I fancied her better off dead than alive.
So I KILLED her . . .



S.Simon - loves animals




Capt. Mooron October 8th 03 10:07 PM

Killing Pets
 
91.... but he insists on no middle numbers until he hits one hundred. Man
has he ever chilled with the years. He was one strict, mean SOB when he was
my age. Back then I couldn't do anything to please him.... now everything I
do just amuses him!

CM

"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
...
| You don't know your Dads' age? Oy!
|
| "Capt. Mooron" wrote ...
| Yup... had to run Dad to the hospital... pneumonia. With him 90+ years
old
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Capt. Mooron October 8th 03 10:46 PM

Killing Pets
 
Your're sounding more and more like a LIBERAL every day!

CM

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
| What's this 'put down' ****?
|
| How people obfuscate! Using a sanitary term does not make putting down
| any less than the act of killiing.
|
| People kill; people die. People do not put down; people do not pass away!
| Let's accept reality for once.
|
| The very use of English shows the extremes people go to to deny acts
| and consequences. This is sickness pure!
|
| S.Simon
|
|
| "katysails" wrote in message
...
|
| In other words, is three minutes of suffering for a dumb pet worth two
| years of life for a human??
|
| It costs $15.00 to put down a dog or cat. Or the price of a .22 shell (if
you are able to do it...)
| --
| katysails
| s/v Chanteuse
| Kirie Elite 32
| http://katysails.tripod.com
|
| "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
| and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein
|
|



Donal October 8th 03 11:07 PM

Killing Pets
 

"katysails" wrote in message
...

In other words, is three minutes of suffering for a dumb pet worth two
years of life for a human??

It costs $15.00 to put down a dog or cat. Or the price of a .22 shell (if
you are able to do it...)


$15.00 is very cheap, compared to what our thieving vers charge!


My question must be re-phrased, thusly " In other words, is three minutes of
suffering for a dumb pet worth 15 weeks of life for a human"?

I already know what Simon's answer will be! He's a sick, and twisted,
individual who is incapable of seeing the simple truth when it stares him in
the face!

Regards


Donal
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Simple Simon October 8th 03 11:14 PM

Killing Pets
 

You're confused, man! Liberals are the ones all for politically correct
speech. Liberals are the one's who make up terms like, 'putting down'
for killing, 'passing away' for dying, 'resource center' for library, 'right to
choose' for killing a foetus, 'African-American' for Negro, ad nauseum.

Get it straight before opening your pie hole.

S.Simon - tells it like it is - a very conservative thing to do.

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ...
Your're sounding more and more like a LIBERAL every day!




Simple Simon October 8th 03 11:28 PM

Navigator's lament
 

It would seem to me it is up to you to prove me wrong.

So far there has been precious little evidence coming
from you that I was wrong. Why, you won't even
put a name to this horrible and painful disease you
say your kitten suffered from. The conclusions I
draw come from the words you wrote. Try writing
something more informative and I might consider
apologizing for being too harsh on you.

I attacked you more out of a desire to point out
pets are a very great responsiblilty not to be assumed
lightly. They represent an obligation not to be dismissed
easily. I felt you were an example of rather callous
behavior regarding pets that is epidemic these days.
I suppose it's useless to expect even one person
to agree with me these days but I have to try at least.

S.Simon

"The_navigator©" wrote in message ...
I frankly shocked that you can be so ugly and unjust. With no facts you
act as judge jury and executioner -perhaps you want to punish me for
disparaging comments on your new sails? Pathetic.

MC


Simple Simon wrote:

The Navigator's Lament

I had a kitten and I loved her so much
She was playful and gentle and so nice to touch.
But alas she went blind
And in my warped mind
A handicapped cat might never survive
And I fancied her better off dead than alive.
So I KILLED her . . .



S.Simon - loves animals






katysails October 8th 03 11:32 PM

Killing Pets
 
Now they even
kill the chickens BEFORE...
Many meat breed chickens that are ranched are now geneticlly =
featherless....really gross looking creatures....

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein


katysails October 8th 03 11:40 PM

Killing Pets
 
remember 'Ol Yellow?

On my list of "Seen Once Never Want To See Again" movies along with =
Beautiful Joe, The Biscuit Eater, Where the Red Fern Grows, Bambi, and =
The Yearling. All great movies...once....I have unfortunately been on =
the other side of the killing needle and putting down someone's pet is a =
hard thing to do. We keep animals alive long past when they would have =
naturally succumbed in the wild and sometimes prolong their agony by our =
good intentions. Coming to mind are such actions as attaching a wagon =
to the rear end of a dog so he can move his paralyzed back end =
around....or have you ever watched a dog with degenerative hip dysplacia =
gradually lose control of his back end only to go through surgery after =
surgery to replace what wasn't there in the first place? The difference =
between lower animals and ourselves is that we know why pain exists. We =
can choose. An animal in the wild will gnaw off its' own limb if in =
that much pain and then will die of the infection. Animals cannot =
choose suicide...they just become so weak they become a part of the food =
chain for others. Making an animal that is a pet go through pain like =
that is unkind and unnatural.

--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein



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