I ran the search for boats 30'-40'
priced from 0-99k and came up with 400. Question is, why would someone want
to buy a boat that they can't sail competitively?

John, you're not acting too bright. I need a boat where getting a good night's
sleep is possible and without forcing my wife to sleep in another bunk! VERY
few boats under 40 feet have 7 foot bunks. Now throw in the perormance criteria
and not buying a bloated old boat.
Sorry.

RB

I ran the search for boats 30'-40'
priced from 0-99k and came up with 400. Question is, why would someone want
to buy a boat that they can't sail competitively?


Bobsprit wrote:
John, you're not acting too bright.

Why, becauase he is actually taking a look at what's on the market before making
announcements about 'the best boat'?


I need a boat where getting a good night's
sleep is possible and without forcing my wife to sleep in another bunk! VERY
few boats under 40 feet have 7 foot bunks.

Relatively few boats over 40 feet have 7' bunks. Especially mass-produced boats.

However, it's all out there. If you look hard enough, you'll find.


Now throw in the perormance criteria
and not buying a bloated old boat.

You mean like a bargain-basement leftover that is actually smaller & slower than
your last 'stepping stone' boat?



Sorry.

Yes, you are, Bubbles.... but mostly you're nuts!

DSK

Bobsprit wrote:
John, you're not acting too bright.

Why, becauase he is actually taking a look at what's on the market before
making
announcements about 'the best boat'?

I examined the market carefully. No one has proven otherwise by showing a boat
that does what the 34xl can do.

RB

Relatively few boats over 40 feet have 7' bunks. Especially mass-produced
boats.

However, it's all out there. If you look hard enough, you'll find.

Yup. Found ONE. The 34xl from C&C.

RB

Its so typical that you pick one of the worst features of the boat to hinge your claims
on. The aft cabin on the C&C 34XL is a cave with almost no ventilation. There is a tiny
hatch that opens into cockpit foot well, and no way to generate a generous airflow. This
is not a proper berth for adults, it is a playroom for kids.

A proper berth has at least one forward facing, large hatch to scoop in air while at
anchor. Otherwise, the boat is useless for cruising in the tropics, or even in the
summer. My Nonsuch had one large and one small forward facing hatch in the stateroom; my
cat has two large forward facing hatches, plus a smaller side hatch in both staterooms.
If there is the slightest wind at anchor, the cabin is cool all night. (At the dock we
sometimes rigged a windscoop if we weren't facing forward, but hardly ever need at
anchor.)




"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Relatively few boats over 40 feet have 7' bunks. Especially mass-produced
boats.

However, it's all out there. If you look hard enough, you'll find.

Yup. Found ONE. The 34xl from C&C.

RB

Its so typical that you pick one of the worst features of the boat to hinge
your claims
on. The aft cabin on the C&C 34XL is a cave with almost no ventilation. There
is a tiny
hatch

Ventilation can be improved. Both 36's I was aboard had dealt with this, adding
a second port in the cabin sole wall. With cabin door open, it's fine. Dockside
there's AC of course.

RB

Its so typical that you pick one of the worst features of the boat to hinge
your claims
on.

I listed 8 features. YOU picked the worst one, I guess!!!

The Magic boat sails fast and points high
It's under 40 feet long
It's under 100K used
It's got a shower stall
It's got a large cockpit
It's got a 7 foot long king sized berth aft
It looks like a sailboat
It's less than 15 years old

RB

If there is the slightest wind at anchor, the cabin is cool all night. (At the
dock we
sometimes rigged a windscoop if we weren't facing forward, but hardly ever need
at
anchor.)

We slept aboard many times this summer. We never had a problem sleeping and it
was often cold at night when anchored. A 12 volt fan was used maybe twice.
We always use the main cabin's double.
The "cave" of the 34xl will have to be addressed with some alterations, but
it's better than a bunk that's too small!

RB

If you were any kind of sailor you'd realize that
you rarely get a good night's sleep even if your berth
is 10 feet long.

Real sailors sleep with one eye open but you wouldn't
know a thing about that would you?

S.Simon - 40 winks, two or three at a time like a real sailor.


"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...
I ran the search for boats 30'-40'
priced from 0-99k and came up with 400. Question is, why would someone want
to buy a boat that they can't sail competitively?

John, you're not acting too bright. I need a boat where getting a good night's
sleep is possible and without forcing my wife to sleep in another bunk! VERY
few boats under 40 feet have 7 foot bunks. Now throw in the perormance criteria
and not buying a bloated old boat.
Sorry.

RB

I never have trouble getting a good sleep during a long-distance
cruise, although I do agree with you. I seem to attune myself to the
boat and its motion pretty quickly, so if there's a change, especially
if something feels wrong, I wake instantly.

"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...

If you were any kind of sailor you'd realize that
you rarely get a good night's sleep even if your berth
is 10 feet long.

Real sailors sleep with one eye open but you wouldn't
know a thing about that would you?

S.Simon - 40 winks, two or three at a time like a real sailor.


"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
I ran the search for boats 30'-40'
priced from 0-99k and came up with 400. Question is, why would someone
want
to buy a boat that they can't sail competitively?

John, you're not acting too bright. I need a boat where getting a good
night's
sleep is possible and without forcing my wife to sleep in another bunk!
VERY
few boats under 40 feet have 7 foot bunks. Now throw in the perormance
criteria
and not buying a bloated old boat.
Sorry.

RB