Horvath wrote:


Yes but do you have a digitally simulated slide rule?

I do. It's called a calculator.

Not the same thing. Not even close, dumbass.

DSK

Yeah Thom... I've used loose footed sail for six years.... won't go back.
Better sail shape, easier to tune/adjust. I still have the bolt rope
installed so I can use the sail either way. I'll stick to my free foot...
and I've listened to all the arguments on both sides. I find for me it makes
the most sense. I also have full battens... luv'em. Not that this fact is
any endorsement or help to your argument.

BTW... when reefing a loose footed main, there is no longer any need to tie
to the boom. I found the reefed shape is better..

CM


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message

| Cripes, isn't there anyone out there that has used a free footed sail
| longer than two week. TALK TO US!!!
|
| Ole Thom
|

Cap, you bring up a frequently misunderstood point. The reef ties
shoud never be used to tie the sail to the boom. This is a cause for
sail maker enrichment. The reef ties are not reinforced to take such
strain. A reefed main is a loose footed main and the sail ties are
just there to make the package neat.

On Fri, 5 Sep 2003 10:08:13 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
wrote:


BTW... when reefing a loose footed main, there is no longer any need to tie
to the boom. I found the reefed shape is better..

CM


"Thom Stewart" wrote in message

| Cripes, isn't there anyone out there that has used a free footed sail
| longer than two week. TALK TO US!!!
|
| Ole Thom
|

Sorry Loco,

My Web tv can't open your pictures. Wish I could

Ole Thom
P/S All my shelves work as you say. They would unfold as the curve in
the bottom increased.

"Marc" wrote in message
...
|
|
|
| Cap, you bring up a frequently misunderstood point. The reef ties
| shoud never be used to tie the sail to the boom. This is a cause for
| sail maker enrichment. The reef ties are not reinforced to take such
| strain. A reefed main is a loose footed main and the sail ties are
| just there to make the package neat.

So Marc... how do you tie a reef into a main that has a bolt rope along the
boom?

Since when are reef points not reinforced?

CM

CM,

I'm not arguing. Don't have enough experience yet with the free footed
sail. I've just been mentioning some of the differences I've found and
most of them I like.

I'll be able to talk better when I've made up a performance curve using
the new main. So far it has shown itself to be a very good light air
sail.

Ole Thom

Marc,

You bring up another good point. I went to Jiffy Reefing years ago, when
I was using Shelf footed mains. I stopped using reefing ties for the
reason you've stated. With a shelf, you have to tie to the boom
Let my state that sailing reefed, in the rain without ties is one WET
cockpit each time you tack

Ole Thom

"The Captains Master" wrote in message
...
| On Fri, 5 Sep 2003 11:36:38 -0300, "Capt. Mooron"
| wrote:
|
|
| "Marc" wrote in message
| .. .
| |
| |
| |
| | Cap, you bring up a frequently misunderstood point. The reef ties
| | shoud never be used to tie the sail to the boom. This is a cause for
| | sail maker enrichment. The reef ties are not reinforced to take such
| | strain. A reefed main is a loose footed main and the sail ties are
| | just there to make the package neat.
|
| So Marc... how do you tie a reef into a main that has a bolt rope along
the
| boom?
|
| Huh?
|
| Since when are reef points not reinforced?
|
| They're reinforced so they won't tear thru the sail if it takes a lot
| of water.
| Oh and Marc is correct, a reefer main is then a loose footed sail.

Oddly enough my original North Sail Main came from the factory with a bolt
rope on the foot and 3 reefing points....
A "Reefer" Main..... ???? Is that the type they say really "smoke"?? ;-)

CM

Since when are reef points not reinforced?

They are NOT designed to do more than keep excess sail neat and clear. A reefed
main is for all intents and purposes loose footed.

RB

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
| CM,
|
| I'm not arguing. Don't have enough experience yet with the free footed
| sail. I've just been mentioning some of the differences I've found and
| most of them I like.
|
| I'll be able to talk better when I've made up a performance curve using
| the new main. So far it has shown itself to be a very good light air
| sail.

Yeah... I can't find anything bad about it in heavy air either. Then again
I'm not racing and I've never even entertained the idea of a performance
curve. I have found that easing up on the outhaul to belly the main seems to
make it less prone to an accidental gybe when wing on wing.

CM