It would be more impressive if you didn't have a motor, wouldn't it? What
you seem to be saying is, you have to have a motor to sail? Pathetic,
especially coming from someone that claims to be a purist, as you do.
John Cairns
"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Hey John,

You are the typical stupid, inept, wannabe sailor.
You are an embarrassment to us real sailors.

My motor does not need a battery to start it.
If my motor DID need a battery to start it you can
beet your boots I would make sure my batteries
were good BEFORE trouble arose.

S.Simon

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ...
Your motor belongs on the end of a Punt....

Your motor belongs on a tractor! It's big, heavy, smelly, noisy and ugly.
It fills the bilge with an oily mess. It makes the accommodation smell
like a truck stop and the vibration it causes loosens up bulkeads, fittings
windows etc. Your fillings probably even need work.

And your boat is about big enough to be a dinghy to most of the vessels
owned by folks posting here.

Strang that my 'small' boat has the same LWL as your big heavy pig boat.

You sail in protected flats and think a trip to friggin Bahamas from Florida
equates to global cruising.

I've sailed more miles on the North Atlantic than you have. I've a Masters
license to prove it. Haha hah hah a hah ah ha hahahahha!

You waste money on interior renovations a la Bob but your's look like it was
inspired by Martha Steward on a bad acid trip.

At least it doesn't smell like an oil spill like yours.

You are a lubber of the worst kind.

I guess you'd see an ex-lubber like me as a lubber of the worst
kind since you'll never have the balls to become an ex-lubber. I'm sorry
I make you feel inadequate

S.Simon

At least I'm skilled enough to not even consider a towboat if my motor every
quit. I only use the motor for convenience - not out of necessity. If it should
ever quit I would not be the least bit worried sailing up to any marina for
ice and beer. I certainly would NEVER have any desire to go to a slip.

Only losers keep their boats in a slip. Slips are for women and wimpy
sailors.

S.Simon


"John Cairns" wrote in message ...
It would be more impressive if you didn't have a motor, wouldn't it? What
you seem to be saying is, you have to have a motor to sail? Pathetic,
especially coming from someone that claims to be a purist, as you do.
John Cairns
"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Hey John,

You are the typical stupid, inept, wannabe sailor.
You are an embarrassment to us real sailors.

My motor does not need a battery to start it.
If my motor DID need a battery to start it you can
beet your boots I would make sure my batteries
were good BEFORE trouble arose.

S.Simon

I never gave getting a tow much thought, the decision was a no brainer. In
the these parts, no one keeps their boat at a mooring, period. Couldn't tell
you why, but I suspect it has something to do topography, there are no large
natural harbors in these parts. Katy could probably tell you if it's true on
Lake Michigan, the only place I know for certain that has moorings is
Chicago, and they still charge a fee to keep a boat on a mooring. Even if I
could keep a boat at a mooring, what would be the point? Since I can't walk
on water, would have to motor out to the boat every time I wanted to go for
a sail, which would end up taking just as much time as motoring 1000 ft. to
the end of the channel, right? And I would probably have to pay someone for
a spot to keep the dink, right? We can afford to pay for a slip in these
parts, if this weren't true I'm sure we would have plenty of moorings.
John Cairns


"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
At least I'm skilled enough to not even consider a towboat if my motor
every
quit. I only use the motor for convenience - not out of necessity. If it
should
ever quit I would not be the least bit worried sailing up to any marina
for
ice and beer. I certainly would NEVER have any desire to go to a slip.

Only losers keep their boats in a slip. Slips are for women and wimpy
sailors.

S.Simon


"John Cairns" wrote in message
...
It would be more impressive if you didn't have a motor, wouldn't it?
What
you seem to be saying is, you have to have a motor to sail? Pathetic,
especially coming from someone that claims to be a purist, as you do.
John Cairns
"Simple Simon" wrote in message
...
Hey John,

You are the typical stupid, inept, wannabe sailor.
You are an embarrassment to us real sailors.

My motor does not need a battery to start it.
If my motor DID need a battery to start it you can
beet your boots I would make sure my batteries
were good BEFORE trouble arose.

S.Simon

John said:
Katy could probably tell you if it's true on
Lake Michigan, the only place I know for certain that has moorings is
Chicago, and they still charge a fee to keep a boat on a mooring

Lake Michigan has moorings In Lake Macatawa, Muskegon Lake, White Lake, =
Pen****er, Portage Lake, private moorings in Arcadia, moorings in =
Frankfurt, Little Traverse and Grand Traverse Bays, and on Beaver =
Island. Some are private in front of people's homes that will rent to =
you for a nominal fee, some are associated with property associations =
(ours is the Bluffton Bay Association and is run by Torreson's and the =
Yacht Club). There is always some kind of fee charged, but it is =
nominal. We are paying $75.00/season. If we want to come in for a =
night, we tie up at the courtesy dock at the Yacht Club for =
$14.00/night...=20
--=20
katysails
s/v Chanteuse
Kirie Elite 32
http://katysails.tripod.com

"Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax
and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein

"katysails" wrote in message ...
We are paying $75.00/season. If we want to come in for a night, we tie up at the courtesy dock at the Yacht Club for
$14.00/night...


And, that's where you spend most of your time - at the dock.

Some sailor!

S.Simon

"katysails" wrote in message ...
Your rash assumptions are going to get you in real trouble one of these days.


I didn't say anything about any rash. But, maybe you have West Nile??

Better go see a doc. My Voodoo is strong medicine.

S.Simon

"Bobsprit" wrote in message
...
Whassamatta now, Bob?

Nada. Just being difficult.

No, you're not!

No, really. I am.

Really, you're not! I think that Mooron is right. You're losing your
edge.



Regards


Donal
--

"John Cairns" wrote in message
...
Yeah, the batteries are probably shot, they are dated '99. I have a deep
cycle battery charger and it didn't want to charge one of them before our
summer cruise.

That's what happened to me back in March. One of the batteries would go
flat very quickly after being charged. The other battery wasn't great,
either.
With hindsight, I can see that the deterioration was gradual. Last year, if
we left the fridge running overnight, then the house battery would be almost
flat by the morning. With the new batteries, I can start the engine on
the house battery in the morning.



I was reluctant to replace them before I install a proper
onboard charger, will replace them in the off season along with installing
the charging system.


Are you sure that your charger needs changing. I must admit that I don't
know what "deep cycling" means in the context of a charger. Perhaps
Bobsprit will enlighten me??


Regards


Donal
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John Cairns
"Donal" wrote in message
...

"John Cairns" wrote in message
...
One of my off-season projects will be the installation
of a proper on-board charging system. As long as I sail out of this
marina,
keeping the batteries charged with the diesel will be a problem.

How old are your batteries?

I fitted new batteries to Setanta this year, and they made a huge
difference. In future, I'll change them every 4 years.


Regards


Donal
--

You're losing your
edge.

I've never had an edge. I did, at one time, have a blunt end, but it's worn.

RB