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Seasonal Affective Disorder is cured by vitamin D.

What does that tell you about the importance of
getting some sun?


"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message ...

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message

| Putting aside Neal's racism, tans (any tan) is not healthy.
| Ask any dermitologist.

I did Ganz.... my dermatologist says there is nothing wrong with a tan and
that my maintaining a tan all year round is better than burning in
seasonally. Moderation is the key here... maintain a tan and don't burn.
It's the burn that damages your skin. I'm not saying nor have I implied that
constant extended exposure to solar radiation is healthy... just that having
an increased melanin content is not unhealthy. I have heard that sun
exposure is required for vitamin D... I'm not certain as to the validity of
that claim.

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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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| It's a healthy response, but still damage. The suntan is just
| a lower version of sunburn.

No Jon.... a tan is not a lower version of a sunburn. A sunburn is a
radiation burn and should be avoided. A Tan is the result of melanin in the
epidermal layer. You can tan and not burn.

I'm not the one requiring research here..... you are. I have an allergic
reaction to sunlight. I have discussed this with many specialists and none
of them have suggested that a tan is bad for you. All of them have warned a
burn is bad for you. You can tan without burning by limited exposure and a
good sunscreen.

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Sure I do... I have had an allergy to ultraviolet radiation since I was 18.
It is aggravated by use of soap. I admitted this years ago. I also have a
healthy god like copper tan and work outdoors all day....

Only wimps are frightened of sun exposure. I've had "sun poisoning" twice to
date from extended periods outdoors working without sunscreen. Big Deal....
I have never exhibited any signs or indication of lesions or cancerous
growths. I do get checked every couple of years.

Gilly is a mountain boy and only subject to sunlight every year for 2
months.....

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"Scott Vernon" wrote in message
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| you have a dermatologist? He he he he, oh boy, wait till Gilly reads
this.
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| Scotty
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| "Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
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| "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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| | Putting aside Neal's racism, tans (any tan) is not healthy.
| | Ask any dermitologist.
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| I did Ganz.... my dermatologist says there is nothing wrong with a tan
| and
| that my maintaining a tan all year round is better than burning in
| seasonally. Moderation is the key here... maintain a tan and don't burn.
| It's the burn that damages your skin. I'm not saying nor have I implied
| that
| constant extended exposure to solar radiation is healthy... just that
| having
| an increased melanin content is not unhealthy. I have heard that sun
| exposure is required for vitamin D... I'm not certain as to the validity
| of
| that claim.
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| CM
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No it's not the bottom line.... a tan is not from damaged skin.... it's the
result of the body releasing a natural protective pigment. You do not need
to damage your skin to tan.

CM

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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| Not burning seasonally is certainly less desireable than
| burning seasonally. However, a tan is the body's defense
| mechanism and damage. That's the bottom line.


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| Try tiger sharks if you want really scary. Vicious, large *and*
| common.

Yup... I was a commercial diver on a cable barge laying a line to an
island.... we saw over two dozen Tiger Sharks in a 4 day period there down
to 180 feet. We dove pairs to have one person keep an eye on curious
tigers... they where armed with CO2 shark spears which would theoretically
inflate a shark unpin striking with sufficient gas to keep it from being
"interested". We never used any of them.

My favourite were the Hammerheads in Pago Harbour. I saw lots of sharks
while tacking zincs to Korean Longliners at the Star-Kist Plant. Many
different varieties.... The boats were docked next to the outfall from the
processing plant... guts and tidbits all around and usually a feeding frenzy
going on somewhere nearby. I was never attacked by any of the sharks....
although some would show aggressive behaviour by dropping their pectorals
and arching their backs while making quick zig zag motions near me... that's
when I would retreat to the prop cage.

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Okay Mooron, enough of this. Tanning is a bad thing. Tan sking ALWAYS indicates
some level of damage.

Providing a definition of "tanning" isn't as stupid as it seems. A tan
occurs when the skin absorbs ultraviolet radiation (commonly called "UV rays").
As a response, the skin produces a substance known as melanin, which darkens
the skin's outer layers. While many believe that a tan makes us appear
healthier, a tan is actually a sign that the skin has been damaged. It's
similar to the beginning stages of a burn.

And there you have it.

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And more...

Even tanning slowly and carefully is dangerous. Darrell Rigel, M.D.,
clinical assistant professor of dermatology at New York University,
Manhattan, maintains, There's no such thing as a safe tan. That's the key
point. You have to think about why you tan. The body senses that it is being
injured by UV radiation and, to protect itself, it produces melanin.
(Melanin is the body's natural sun block, the dark pigment that skin cells
produce to block out damaging rays and that cause tanning.)

But further damage occurs at the cellular level, he explains. When the sun
hits the skin, the DNA in the skin cells gets distorted. Think of the DNA
in the cell as a spiral staircase," he says. What happens is that the two
chains of the DNA are no longer connected and the stairs go off at a funny
angle. Normal people have the enzyme that attempts to repair the damage.?
But, he adds, the repair is never total; some damage always remains, and it
accumulates over the years.
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"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...
And more...

Even tanning slowly and carefully is dangerous. Darrell Rigel, M.D.,
clinical assistant professor of dermatology at New York University,
Manhattan, maintains, There's no such thing as a safe tan. That's the key
point. You have to think about why you tan. The body senses that it is being
injured by UV radiation and, to protect itself, it produces melanin.
(Melanin is the body's natural sun block, the dark pigment that skin cells
produce to block out damaging rays and that cause tanning.)


The body does not sense it is being injured. The skin reacts to the UV
and produces melanin to KEEP the skin from being injured. This doctor
us an idiot educated in a liberal university that is clearly teaching lies.


But further damage occurs at the cellular level, he explains. When the sun
hits the skin, the DNA in the skin cells gets distorted. Think of the DNA
in the cell as a spiral staircase," he says. What happens is that the two
chains of the DNA are no longer connected and the stairs go off at a funny
angle. Normal people have the enzyme that attempts to repair the damage.?
But, he adds, the repair is never total; some damage always remains, and it
accumulates over the years.


Wrong again. Melanin shades the living skin cells before they can sustain
damage to the DNA. And what's this nonsense about skin cell getting
distorted? Ha aha hhah ah ha ha ha hahahah! I suppose skin cells never
get distorted by movement? I guess they will be saying next "Don't move,
you'll distort your skin cells!!!". Ha ha hahhahah a ha hah ha ha hah!
See how stupid a liberal education makes people?


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People who get burn have stayed out of the sun too long.
Regular and reasonable exposure to the sun will keep
the pigment in place. The very first time one gets in the
sun one should do it for a short period so one does
not burn.

What you are saying in like saying water will kill you.
Sure water will kill you if you try to breath it or if you
drink four gallons of it a day. If you use it in a normal
manner water will not kill you. Nor will the sun damage
your skin. It is only overexposure to the sun that can
damage the skin via the burning process.


"Bobsprit" wrote in message ...
The skin reacts to the UV
and produces melanin to KEEP the skin from being injured. This doctor
us an idiot educated in a liberal university that is clearly teaching lies.

If the skin could react fast enough to prevent damage, people wouldn't get
burns, you putz!

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Regular and reasonable exposure to the sun will keep
the pigment in place.

According to every medical source, regular exposure to the sun results in skin
that loses elasticity and a higher risk for skin cancer.
My best friend's father was a geological surveyor, tanned from years of working
on sites most of his life. His "regular exposure" resulted in a long battle
with skin cancer.
Only a fool takes the sun lightly. Wear protection and you'll live longer and
look better!

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