donquijote1954 wrote:
In 4 lbs? Is this the same as Danforth?

Yes.

donquijote1954 wrote:
Howdy!

I'm considering a heavy anchor (perhaps 6.5 lbs or heavier) such that
if --for example-- my partner gets tired in heavy wind I can have the
canoe stay put while she rests. Or if I must abandon the flooded canoe
and swim, I can come back and retrieve it at the same spot the next
day.

What do I need?

Thanks!

I'd suggest trying a gallon plastic jug full of sand, cement, scrap
metal, or anything heavy.
The plastic won't scratch up the bottom of the boat.
Tie a line to the handle on the jug.
In my neighbourhood we have plastic recyling so you can find plastic
jugs at the curb on garbage day. Cheap to replace when necessary.
In pre-plastic times we used a gallon paint can full of cement on a 16
foot fishing boat.

Boating books say to put out 5-6 times a smuch line as depth, ie in 6
ft of water put out 30 ft of anchor line. That's partly to get the
spokes on patented anchors to dig in but also to put some spring in the
line to reduce anchor drag.

Wm Watt wrote:
donquijote1954 wrote:
Howdy!

I'm considering a heavy anchor (perhaps 6.5 lbs or heavier) such that
if --for example-- my partner gets tired in heavy wind I can have the
canoe stay put while she rests. Or if I must abandon the flooded canoe
and swim, I can come back and retrieve it at the same spot the next
day.

What do I need?

Thanks!

I'd suggest trying a gallon plastic jug full of sand, cement, scrap
metal, or anything heavy.
The plastic won't scratch up the bottom of the boat.
Tie a line to the handle on the jug.
In my neighbourhood we have plastic recyling so you can find plastic
jugs at the curb on garbage day. Cheap to replace when necessary.
In pre-plastic times we used a gallon paint can full of cement on a 16
foot fishing boat.

Recycling is always a good idea!

Boating books say to put out 5-6 times a smuch line as depth, ie in 6
ft of water put out 30 ft of anchor line. That's partly to get the
spokes on patented anchors to dig in but also to put some spring in the
line to reduce anchor drag.

So I got a 100' rope, which seemed to me twice as long as necessary,
should I cut at 50'?

By the way, DO I NEED A CHAIN???

It sounds like me, though I'm not fishing and I don't mind the
swinging...

"Once you've found biting fish, you may want to anchor the canoe in
position. When anchoring a canoe use two anchors to minimize the boat
from swinging (unless you intentionally want to do so to fish a wider
area). To properly anchor a canoe, put one off the bow and the other
directly off the stern. Do not tie anchors off the sides of a canoe as
this can lead the canoe turning over in heavy waves. Mushroom or river
anchors between eight- to 15-pounds coupled with nylon rope will work
for most canoes. When tying off anchors use quick-release knots so
slack line can be let out in the event of unexpected waves surprising
you to ensure the canoe doesn't become swamped."

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So one on the bow with short chain should do. Preferably Danforth.

On 8 Nov 2006 14:00:43 -0800, "donquijote1954"
wrote:

It sounds like me, though I'm not fishing and I don't mind the
swinging...

"Once you've found biting fish, you may want to anchor the canoe in
position. When anchoring a canoe use two anchors to minimize the boat
from swinging (unless you intentionally want to do so to fish a wider
area). To properly anchor a canoe, put one off the bow and the other
directly off the stern. Do not tie anchors off the sides of a canoe as
this can lead the canoe turning over in heavy waves.

Anchors at both ends seems risky to me unless one has a lot of slack
rope. I'd not do it myself, even with slack. Wind or tide or current
should keep a canoe pointed / placed in one direction for quite a
while with just one anchor.
--

r.bc: vixen
Speaker to squirrels, willow watcher, etc..
Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless. Really.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli

Cyli wrote:

Wind or tide or current
should keep a canoe pointed / placed in one direction for quite a
while with just one anchor.

Until the wind/tide changes. If a river has a steady current, you'd be fine.
Boats routinely anchor with two anchors to prevent drift. You can have one off
each end or two in a V at one end. Perfectly safe unless you use 20' of rode at
low tide in a 40' tide zone. And never anchor beam on to the surf :-)

Mike

On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 01:26:29 -0500, Michael Daly
wrote:

Cyli wrote:

Wind or tide or current
should keep a canoe pointed / placed in one direction for quite a
while with just one anchor.

Until the wind/tide changes.
That's why I said 'for some time.' Nothing, particularly tide and
wind, lasts forever in the same direction.

If a river has a steady current, you'd be fine.
Boats routinely anchor with two anchors to prevent drift. You can have one off
each end or two in a V at one end. Perfectly safe unless you use 20' of rode at
low tide in a 40' tide zone. And never anchor beam on to the surf :-)

Me for the two in a vee at one end. But then I have mostly been a
river camper.

I know people have done the short rope / higher tide thing, though
it's hard to imagine that they managed to get to a place where they
could anchor without understanding about tide, but after what I've
seen on the river not understanding (and not willing to understand,
when one tries to explain) about current and wind, I have to believe
it.
--

r.bc: vixen
Speaker to squirrels, willow watcher, etc..
Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless. Really.

http://www.visi.com/~cyli

I'd be careful trying to swim very far off and ocean shore. I was
surprized once while swimming in the surf how far the undertow(?)
carried me away. I had to swim hard to get back to the beach. Dumb
tourist.

I'm a freshwater boater myself but I've read that a boat rising and
falling on ocean swells can drag it's anchor if the line is too short.
When a storm hit our exposed moorings at a local freshwater sailing
club a lot of boats dragged their moorings and those were large
concrete blocks.

Wm Watt wrote:
I'd be careful trying to swim very far off and ocean shore. I was
surprized once while swimming in the surf how far the undertow(?)
carried me away. I had to swim hard to get back to the beach. Dumb
tourist.

I'm a freshwater boater myself but I've read that a boat rising and
falling on ocean swells can drag it's anchor if the line is too short.
When a storm hit our exposed moorings at a local freshwater sailing
club a lot of boats dragged their moorings and those were large
concrete blocks.

I've got a sit-on-top which would have all the flotation I need and I
just need to jump back on, but the canoe, though it floats when
swamped, I guess I would'n care to bail out.

The canoe I only use in the Intracoastal, of course.

Well, I went back to the store and thought the Danforth was too bulky
and sharp so I bought a 10lb Navy type anchor. It got the flukes, but
not the bulk.

http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catal...=SearchResults

Would I need a chain for it???

One situation I may encounter where I need a strong anchor is when I'm
facing a strong wind and the waves flood the boat too much, so I throw
anchor, bail out, and keep on going. This happens quite often in winter
time when I'm returning home. We are two people and one can't keep the
canoe straight into the wind.