"Sj" wrote in message
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On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:08:38 GMT, Auld Phart
wrote:

On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 22:55:47 +0100, "Willem Van der Voort"
wrote:


schreef in bericht
. ..
Yenc vs UUE has been heatedly debated for some time now
in many newsgroups, and it's a pity that we get so intense
about it. I suspect the argument will continue until Yenc
becomes the standard, or everyone has free high-speed access.
Or until the messiah comes.

At the end of the day, the poster decides what they want to post and how
they
will post it. The receiver can ignore things that are posted in a way
that they
don't like, just as they can ignore posters that they don't like.

However, I do wonder when I see someone entering the debate and posting
rubbish
like that quoted below.

Yenc have noting to do with high-speed access..

Yenc has everything to do with file size, and file size has everything to
do
with speed of access.

If you look at the file size
of a Yenc poster you will see they send mostly very large files.

Anyone posting large files OR a reasonable number of smaller files would
be
quite wasteful of resources if they did not use yEnc.

A 1 Gb file posted using yEnc is transported over the net to a multitude
of news
servers as a ~ 1.03 Gb package. The same posted as UUE will use ~ 1.4
Gb.

By the same token, 1000 1 Mb jpg files will use ~ 1.03 Gb if posted in
yEnc, ~
1.4 Gb if done in UUE.

The UUE posts use ~ 35% extra bandwidth over every internet link they
traverse
and 35% extra storage on every new server where they are stored.

If everyone posted in yEnc, retention could increase by 35% over what it
would
be if everyone posted in UUE.

Not necessarily ... I find that the faster machines & the
use of yEnc encourages people to post volumes more,
whether it be jpg's, mp3's, DVD's, whatever ...

Only problem is, the days haven't gotten any longer
to assimilate more & the eyeballs/ears still work at
the same speed ...

There are some ngs which are considered dump
groups ... my news service has cut the retention of
those ngs to 2-3 days, due to the sheer volume ...

You know, if you don't yEnc, people complain ...if
you do yEnc, people complain ... just maybe the
complaints should be directed at the software
companies who make the software we use ...

I started posting here because I had a request from
someone in wallpaper to post my maritime stuff ...not
being wallpaper size, I started in misc, then found I
had a request from someone to post some here, as
this person couldn't get misc ... so I posted here
what I knew I hadn't posted here before ... then I
get a lot of garbage about segments ...that sadly
brought in yEnc, which, as it turns out, had
absolutely nothing to do my posting in segments,
as at present, I have elected not to post in yEnc ...

But the 2 got tied together ...

Question ... are there still ngs which prohibit/frown
upon the use of yEnc? Anyone know?

I only subscribe to 7 binary groups and believe it or
not, one of them bans posting in yEnc. And another
believe it or not, the main reason was to conserve on
bandwidth. And before you start telling me that yEnc
conserves bandwidth, you're right, but not if you have
to post it again without the yEnc compression.
For those of you who use OE, there is a free yEnc
decoder that works seamlessly called yProxy. I've
never had any problems with it anyway.

wizofwas