Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
wrote:
They wouldn't last a week in a non-union shop (like mine).

What a man.....


Most of the anti-union clowns here don't have the aptitude or skills
to be trained as a hod carrier's apprentice. They're resentful of
blue collar guys earning enough to make a decent living. I give their
opinions in this area all the consideration they are worth...which is
none at all.


Hey, if you didn't have us, you'd have nothing to complain about.

Eisboch



Not true. I am the consumer from hell, and also the guy who will not
talk to customer support people in India.

Racist!

On Nov 13, 1:52*am, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:
On Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:08:51 -0500, "Eisboch"
wrote:







"Boater" wrote in message
...

I was on a condo construction site last week where a union crew turned
out an incredible three story winding stainless steel and glass
staircase. The tube bending and welds and panels of curved glass were as
close to perfect as any I've seen in my working life. Obviously, what
the job needed was someone with Justwait's skill to tack on some
footpegs and someone with FloridaJim's skill to sweep the floor.

Wait a hold-it Harry,

Are you trying to convince us that your union construction crew bent and
fabricated the SS tubes, and formed the "perfect" panels of curved glass
on site? * I don't believe it.

Or did they simply install them, supplied by a manufacturer?

The staircase was built on site in a closed off area of the parking garage
with special equipment typically used at facilities that fabricate for the
aerospace industry; the glass was produced at a union factory. I took a
few photos, which I might post later. The pricetag for the staircase
was...astonishing. :)

"Special equipment used by facilities that fabricate for the aerospace
industry"?

I call Bull ****. * Either that Harry, or some PR dude was handing you a
line.

To fabricate what you are talking about would require hydraulic tubing
benders, mandrels, etc. .... nothing very exotic. *Normally they would
simply be made in ship-able sizes/lengths and then butt welded together on
site.

But how did they finish them? * Were they passivated? * Electropolished?
Were those tanks set up in the parking lot? * In Boston? * No friggin' way.

What you are talking about is pretty routine work for any fab shop with the
proper equipment.

The glass is something else.

Here's the deal guys. *Harry is in the union marketing business. *He's
essentially a marketer for union labor.

That's what he does for a living. *Kind of like Amway sales in a way.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

HEY.......quit dissing Amway sales people. They will surely take
offense at you lumping them in with Harry. At least they know
something about their product!

Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
wrote:
They wouldn't last a week in a non-union shop (like mine).

What a man.....


Most of the anti-union clowns here don't have the aptitude or skills
to be trained as a hod carrier's apprentice. They're resentful of
blue collar guys earning enough to make a decent living. I give
their opinions in this area all the consideration they are
worth...which is none at all.


Hey, if you didn't have us, you'd have nothing to complain about.

Eisboch



Not true. I am the consumer from hell, and also the guy who will not
talk to customer support people in India.

Racist!


Racist? There are no racial classifications in India. My problems with
support "offshored" to India has to do with the fact that those jobs
should be held by Americans, that the majority of tech support personnel
I have encountered on the phone in India have not received enough
training to be helpful, that the phone connections typically are "over
the internet and lousy" and that many of the personnel have a lousy
command of English.

It has nothing to do with race.

Boater wrote:
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
wrote:
They wouldn't last a week in a non-union shop (like mine).

What a man.....


Most of the anti-union clowns here don't have the aptitude or
skills to be trained as a hod carrier's apprentice. They're
resentful of blue collar guys earning enough to make a decent
living. I give their opinions in this area all the consideration
they are worth...which is none at all.


Hey, if you didn't have us, you'd have nothing to complain about.

Eisboch



Not true. I am the consumer from hell, and also the guy who will not
talk to customer support people in India.

Racist!


Racist? There are no racial classifications in India. My problems with
support "offshored" to India has to do with the fact that those jobs
should be held by Americans, that the majority of tech support personnel
I have encountered on the phone in India have not received enough
training to be helpful, that the phone connections typically are "over
the internet and lousy" and that many of the personnel have a lousy
command of English.

It has nothing to do with race.

You hate Asians, Arabs, Muslims. I have all of them working for me in
India.

Harry Krause you are a racist.

Boater wrote:
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
wrote:
They wouldn't last a week in a non-union shop (like mine).

What a man.....


Most of the anti-union clowns here don't have the aptitude or
skills to be trained as a hod carrier's apprentice. They're
resentful of blue collar guys earning enough to make a decent
living. I give their opinions in this area all the consideration
they are worth...which is none at all.


Hey, if you didn't have us, you'd have nothing to complain about.

Eisboch



Not true. I am the consumer from hell, and also the guy who will not
talk to customer support people in India.

Racist!


Racist? There are no racial classifications in India. My problems with
support "offshored" to India has to do with the fact that those jobs
should be held by Americans, that the majority of tech support personnel
I have encountered on the phone in India have not received enough
training to be helpful, that the phone connections typically are "over
the internet and lousy" and that many of the personnel have a lousy
command of English.

It has nothing to do with race.



How do you like being tagged with a label?

If you don't like Indian customer service, what is the alternative.
Mebbee they can move all the customer service to China, where the
products are made.

BAR wrote:
Boater wrote:
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
wrote:
They wouldn't last a week in a non-union shop (like mine).

What a man.....


Most of the anti-union clowns here don't have the aptitude or
skills to be trained as a hod carrier's apprentice. They're
resentful of blue collar guys earning enough to make a decent
living. I give their opinions in this area all the consideration
they are worth...which is none at all.


Hey, if you didn't have us, you'd have nothing to complain about.

Eisboch



Not true. I am the consumer from hell, and also the guy who will not
talk to customer support people in India.

Racist!


Racist? There are no racial classifications in India. My problems with
support "offshored" to India has to do with the fact that those jobs
should be held by Americans, that the majority of tech support
personnel I have encountered on the phone in India have not received
enough training to be helpful, that the phone connections typically
are "over the internet and lousy" and that many of the personnel have
a lousy command of English.

It has nothing to do with race.

You hate Asians, Arabs, Muslims. I have all of them working for me in
India.

Harry Krause you are a racist.




As usual, you are full of schitt. Oh...Arab and Muslim are not races.
So, you are stupid, too.

Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
wrote:
They wouldn't last a week in a non-union shop (like mine).

What a man.....


Most of the anti-union clowns here don't have the aptitude or
skills to be trained as a hod carrier's apprentice. They're
resentful of blue collar guys earning enough to make a decent
living. I give their opinions in this area all the consideration
they are worth...which is none at all.


Hey, if you didn't have us, you'd have nothing to complain about.

Eisboch



Not true. I am the consumer from hell, and also the guy who will not
talk to customer support people in India.

Racist!


Racist? There are no racial classifications in India. My problems with
support "offshored" to India has to do with the fact that those jobs
should be held by Americans, that the majority of tech support
personnel I have encountered on the phone in India have not received
enough training to be helpful, that the phone connections typically
are "over the internet and lousy" and that many of the personnel have
a lousy command of English.

It has nothing to do with race.



How do you like being tagged with a label?

If you don't like Indian customer service, what is the alternative.
Mebbee they can move all the customer service to China, where the
products are made.


The alternative is to insist you be connected to American customer
service. That works most of the time. Really. You know, I think half the
problems are related to the VOIP phone connections.

Boater wrote:
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
wrote:
They wouldn't last a week in a non-union shop (like mine).

What a man.....


Most of the anti-union clowns here don't have the aptitude or
skills to be trained as a hod carrier's apprentice. They're
resentful of blue collar guys earning enough to make a decent
living. I give their opinions in this area all the consideration
they are worth...which is none at all.


Hey, if you didn't have us, you'd have nothing to complain about.

Eisboch



Not true. I am the consumer from hell, and also the guy who will
not talk to customer support people in India.

Racist!


Racist? There are no racial classifications in India. My problems
with support "offshored" to India has to do with the fact that those
jobs should be held by Americans, that the majority of tech support
personnel I have encountered on the phone in India have not received
enough training to be helpful, that the phone connections typically
are "over the internet and lousy" and that many of the personnel have
a lousy command of English.

It has nothing to do with race.



How do you like being tagged with a label?

If you don't like Indian customer service, what is the alternative.
Mebbee they can move all the customer service to China, where the
products are made.


The alternative is to insist you be connected to American customer
service. That works most of the time. Really. You know, I think half the
problems are related to the VOIP phone connections.

That is your prerogative. That'll certainly improve your chances of
talking with a racist.

Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
wrote:
They wouldn't last a week in a non-union shop (like mine).

What a man.....


Most of the anti-union clowns here don't have the aptitude or
skills to be trained as a hod carrier's apprentice. They're
resentful of blue collar guys earning enough to make a decent
living. I give their opinions in this area all the consideration
they are worth...which is none at all.


Hey, if you didn't have us, you'd have nothing to complain about.

Eisboch



Not true. I am the consumer from hell, and also the guy who will
not talk to customer support people in India.

Racist!


Racist? There are no racial classifications in India. My problems
with support "offshored" to India has to do with the fact that those
jobs should be held by Americans, that the majority of tech support
personnel I have encountered on the phone in India have not received
enough training to be helpful, that the phone connections typically
are "over the internet and lousy" and that many of the personnel
have a lousy command of English.

It has nothing to do with race.



How do you like being tagged with a label?

If you don't like Indian customer service, what is the alternative.
Mebbee they can move all the customer service to China, where the
products are made.


The alternative is to insist you be connected to American customer
service. That works most of the time. Really. You know, I think half
the problems are related to the VOIP phone connections.

That is your prerogative. That'll certainly improve your chances of
talking with a racist.


Why? Will you or John Herring be answering the phone?

Boater wrote:
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Jim wrote:
Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
wrote:
They wouldn't last a week in a non-union shop (like mine).

What a man.....


Most of the anti-union clowns here don't have the aptitude or
skills to be trained as a hod carrier's apprentice. They're
resentful of blue collar guys earning enough to make a decent
living. I give their opinions in this area all the
consideration they are worth...which is none at all.


Hey, if you didn't have us, you'd have nothing to complain about.

Eisboch



Not true. I am the consumer from hell, and also the guy who will
not talk to customer support people in India.

Racist!


Racist? There are no racial classifications in India. My problems
with support "offshored" to India has to do with the fact that
those jobs should be held by Americans, that the majority of tech
support personnel I have encountered on the phone in India have not
received enough training to be helpful, that the phone connections
typically are "over the internet and lousy" and that many of the
personnel have a lousy command of English.

It has nothing to do with race.



How do you like being tagged with a label?

If you don't like Indian customer service, what is the alternative.
Mebbee they can move all the customer service to China, where the
products are made.


The alternative is to insist you be connected to American customer
service. That works most of the time. Really. You know, I think half
the problems are related to the VOIP phone connections.

That is your prerogative. That'll certainly improve your chances of
talking with a racist.


Why? Will you or John Herring be answering the phone?
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