Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message
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There are some pretty serious allegations on this web site.

http://www.unionfacts.com/


Cat got your tongue Harry?
Where I worked...no one was forced to sign a card, although under the
terms of employment they paid union dues and enjoyed any advantages the
full members enjoyed. ( except they couldn't run for office in the local)

I doubt FloridaJim or his buddy JustWait could qualify as an apprentice in
any of the skilled unions.

I was on a condo construction site last week where a union crew turned out
an incredible three story winding stainless steel and glass staircase. The
tube bending and welds and panels of curved glass were as close to perfect
as any I've seen in my working life. Obviously, what the job needed was
someone with Justwait's skill to tack on some footpegs and someone with
FloridaJim's skill to sweep the floor.

Wait a hold-it Harry,

Are you trying to convince us that your union construction crew bent and
fabricated the SS tubes, and formed the "perfect" panels of curved glass on
site? I don't believe it.

Or did they simply install them, supplied by a manufacturer?

Eisboch




The staircase was built on site in a closed off area of the parking
garage with special equipment typically used at facilities that
fabricate for the aerospace industry; the glass was produced at a union
factory. I took a few photos, which I might post later. The pricetag for
the staircase was...astonishing. :)

"Boater" wrote in message
...


I was on a condo construction site last week where a union crew turned
out an incredible three story winding stainless steel and glass
staircase. The tube bending and welds and panels of curved glass were as
close to perfect as any I've seen in my working life. Obviously, what
the job needed was someone with Justwait's skill to tack on some
footpegs and someone with FloridaJim's skill to sweep the floor.



Wait a hold-it Harry,

Are you trying to convince us that your union construction crew bent and
fabricated the SS tubes, and formed the "perfect" panels of curved glass
on site? I don't believe it.

Or did they simply install them, supplied by a manufacturer?

Eisboch


The staircase was built on site in a closed off area of the parking garage
with special equipment typically used at facilities that fabricate for the
aerospace industry; the glass was produced at a union factory. I took a
few photos, which I might post later. The pricetag for the staircase
was...astonishing. :)




"Special equipment used by facilities that fabricate for the aerospace
industry"?

I call Bull ****. Either that Harry, or some PR dude was handing you a
line.

To fabricate what you are talking about would require hydraulic tubing
benders, mandrels, etc. .... nothing very exotic. Normally they would
simply be made in ship-able sizes/lengths and then butt welded together on
site.

But how did they finish them? Were they passivated? Electropolished?
Were those tanks set up in the parking lot? In Boston? No friggin' way.

What you are talking about is pretty routine work for any fab shop with the
proper equipment.

The glass is something else.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

I was on a condo construction site last week where a union crew turned
out an incredible three story winding stainless steel and glass
staircase. The tube bending and welds and panels of curved glass were as
close to perfect as any I've seen in my working life. Obviously, what
the job needed was someone with Justwait's skill to tack on some
footpegs and someone with FloridaJim's skill to sweep the floor.


Wait a hold-it Harry,

Are you trying to convince us that your union construction crew bent and
fabricated the SS tubes, and formed the "perfect" panels of curved glass
on site? I don't believe it.

Or did they simply install them, supplied by a manufacturer?

Eisboch


The staircase was built on site in a closed off area of the parking garage
with special equipment typically used at facilities that fabricate for the
aerospace industry; the glass was produced at a union factory. I took a
few photos, which I might post later. The pricetag for the staircase
was...astonishing. :)




"Special equipment used by facilities that fabricate for the aerospace
industry"?

I call Bull ****. Either that Harry, or some PR dude was handing you a
line.

To fabricate what you are talking about would require hydraulic tubing
benders, mandrels, etc. .... nothing very exotic. Normally they would
simply be made in ship-able sizes/lengths and then butt welded together on
site.

But how did they finish them? Were they passivated? Electropolished?
Were those tanks set up in the parking lot? In Boston? No friggin' way.

What you are talking about is pretty routine work for any fab shop with the
proper equipment.

The glass is something else.

Eisboch



It doesn't take much to impress Harry. He should go visit Disney World
if he wants to see some pretty neat stuff.

Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

I was on a condo construction site last week where a union crew turned
out an incredible three story winding stainless steel and glass
staircase. The tube bending and welds and panels of curved glass were as
close to perfect as any I've seen in my working life. Obviously, what
the job needed was someone with Justwait's skill to tack on some
footpegs and someone with FloridaJim's skill to sweep the floor.


Wait a hold-it Harry,

Are you trying to convince us that your union construction crew bent and
fabricated the SS tubes, and formed the "perfect" panels of curved glass
on site? I don't believe it.

Or did they simply install them, supplied by a manufacturer?

Eisboch


The staircase was built on site in a closed off area of the parking garage
with special equipment typically used at facilities that fabricate for the
aerospace industry; the glass was produced at a union factory. I took a
few photos, which I might post later. The pricetag for the staircase
was...astonishing. :)




"Special equipment used by facilities that fabricate for the aerospace
industry"?

I call Bull ****. Either that Harry, or some PR dude was handing you a
line.

To fabricate what you are talking about would require hydraulic tubing
benders, mandrels, etc. .... nothing very exotic. Normally they would
simply be made in ship-able sizes/lengths and then butt welded together on
site.

But how did they finish them? Were they passivated? Electropolished?
Were those tanks set up in the parking lot? In Boston? No friggin' way.

What you are talking about is pretty routine work for any fab shop with the
proper equipment.

The glass is something else.

Eisboch




Butt welded? Hehehe. Nope.

"Boater" wrote in message
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Butt welded? Hehehe. Nope.


Harry, you crack me up. Like your politics, you seem to think that only
what you believe or have personal experience in is the "only" way to do
things.

Yes. Butt welded.

A welding technique commonly used to join two sections of tubing or
manifolding.
Used in simple structural assemblies as well as chemical, gas, vacuum and
nuclear manifolding.

The ends of the sections to be joined are weld prepped, grinding the edges
at angles, then TIG welded at 100 percent root penetration. The weld seams
can then be ground and polished for cosmetic purposes to create the
appearance of a continuous section of piping. What's the big deal? It's
basic welding.

Eisboch

Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

Butt welded? Hehehe. Nope.


Harry, you crack me up. Like your politics, you seem to think that only
what you believe or have personal experience in is the "only" way to do
things.

Yes. Butt welded.

A welding technique commonly used to join two sections of tubing or
manifolding.
Used in simple structural assemblies as well as chemical, gas, vacuum and
nuclear manifolding.

The ends of the sections to be joined are weld prepped, grinding the edges
at angles, then TIG welded at 100 percent root penetration. The weld seams
can then be ground and polished for cosmetic purposes to create the
appearance of a continuous section of piping. What's the big deal? It's
basic welding.

Eisboch



Simple and basic only because you have had the pleasure of associating
with non union welders who take pride in their workmanship. Welders who
know that every payday depends on his earning his pay, not just showing
up to punch the clock.
Unions are responsible for obstructing America's ability to be
competitive in the world marketplace.

I rank unions right up there with liberals, democrats, and lazy slugs
like Harry.

I rank unions right up there with liberals, democrats, and lazy
slugs like Harry.

Your jealous, because you were too stupid to be hired by the
Union......

And now you're stuck in your dead-end , under-paying occupation. Poor
poo-poo..

On Nov 12, 6:41*pm, Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

I was on a condo construction site last week where a union crew turned
out an incredible three story winding stainless steel and glass
staircase. The tube bending and welds and panels of curved glass were as
close to perfect as any I've seen in my working life. Obviously, what
the job needed was someone with Justwait's skill to tack on some
footpegs and someone with FloridaJim's skill to sweep the floor.

Wait a hold-it Harry,

Are you trying to convince us that your union construction crew bent and
fabricated the SS tubes, and formed the "perfect" panels of curved glass
on site? * I don't believe it.

Or did they simply install them, supplied by a manufacturer?

Eisboch

The staircase was built on site in a closed off area of the parking garage
with special equipment typically used at facilities that fabricate for the
aerospace industry; the glass was produced at a union factory. I took a
few photos, which I might post later. The pricetag for the staircase
was...astonishing. :)

"Special equipment used by facilities that fabricate for the aerospace
industry"?

I call Bull ****. * Either that Harry, or some PR dude was handing you a
line.

To fabricate what you are talking about would require hydraulic tubing
benders, mandrels, etc. .... nothing very exotic. *Normally they would
simply be made in ship-able sizes/lengths and then butt welded together on
site.

But how did they finish them? * Were they passivated? * Electropolished?
Were those tanks set up in the parking lot? * In Boston? * No friggin' way.

What you are talking about is pretty routine work for any fab shop with the
proper equipment.

The glass is something else.

Eisboch

Butt welded? Hehehe. Nope.- Hide quoted text -

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Well, then, what type of weld?

On Nov 13, 8:29*am, wrote:
On Nov 12, 6:41*pm, Boater wrote:





Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

I was on a condo construction site last week where a union crew turned
out an incredible three story winding stainless steel and glass
staircase. The tube bending and welds and panels of curved glass were as
close to perfect as any I've seen in my working life. Obviously, what
the job needed was someone with Justwait's skill to tack on some
footpegs and someone with FloridaJim's skill to sweep the floor.

Wait a hold-it Harry,

Are you trying to convince us that your union construction crew bent and
fabricated the SS tubes, and formed the "perfect" panels of curved glass
on site? * I don't believe it.

Or did they simply install them, supplied by a manufacturer?

Eisboch

The staircase was built on site in a closed off area of the parking garage
with special equipment typically used at facilities that fabricate for the
aerospace industry; the glass was produced at a union factory. I took a
few photos, which I might post later. The pricetag for the staircase
was...astonishing. :)

"Special equipment used by facilities that fabricate for the aerospace
industry"?

I call Bull ****. * Either that Harry, or some PR dude was handing you a
line.

To fabricate what you are talking about would require hydraulic tubing
benders, mandrels, etc. .... nothing very exotic. *Normally they would
simply be made in ship-able sizes/lengths and then butt welded together on
site.

But how did they finish them? * Were they passivated? * Electropolished?
Were those tanks set up in the parking lot? * In Boston? * No friggin' way.

What you are talking about is pretty routine work for any fab shop with the
proper equipment.

The glass is something else.

Eisboch

Butt welded? Hehehe. Nope.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Well, then, what type of weld?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It's kind of funny to hear Harry bitching about each and every blue
collar worker here in the group, then turn around and tell us he
supports unions.. I think he supports anybody that pays union dues and
sweats so he can live well...

wrote:
On Nov 13, 8:29 am, wrote:
On Nov 12, 6:41 pm, Boater wrote:





Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
I was on a condo construction site last week where a union crew turned
out an incredible three story winding stainless steel and glass
staircase. The tube bending and welds and panels of curved glass were as
close to perfect as any I've seen in my working life. Obviously, what
the job needed was someone with Justwait's skill to tack on some
footpegs and someone with FloridaJim's skill to sweep the floor.
Wait a hold-it Harry,
Are you trying to convince us that your union construction crew bent and
fabricated the SS tubes, and formed the "perfect" panels of curved glass
on site? I don't believe it.
Or did they simply install them, supplied by a manufacturer?
Eisboch
The staircase was built on site in a closed off area of the parking garage
with special equipment typically used at facilities that fabricate for the
aerospace industry; the glass was produced at a union factory. I took a
few photos, which I might post later. The pricetag for the staircase
was...astonishing. :)
"Special equipment used by facilities that fabricate for the aerospace
industry"?
I call Bull ****. Either that Harry, or some PR dude was handing you a
line.
To fabricate what you are talking about would require hydraulic tubing
benders, mandrels, etc. .... nothing very exotic. Normally they would
simply be made in ship-able sizes/lengths and then butt welded together on
site.
But how did they finish them? Were they passivated? Electropolished?
Were those tanks set up in the parking lot? In Boston? No friggin' way.
What you are talking about is pretty routine work for any fab shop with the
proper equipment.
The glass is something else.
Eisboch
Butt welded? Hehehe. Nope.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Well, then, what type of weld?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

It's kind of funny to hear Harry bitching about each and every blue
collar worker here in the group, then turn around and tell us he
supports unions.. I think he supports anybody that pays union dues and
sweats so he can live well...


Surely you are not insulting the ranks of blue collar workers by
claiming to be one of them. You don't work.