"Boater" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"JR North" wrote in message
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Gas your pigs up while you can. Not gonna tow Cruis'n Rulz! to the
pump. Gonna just get 5 gal at a time and fill her up at home. Don't
expect the prices will hold till next spring. If you wait, you might
just find it back to $4
JR


Nobody likes a spoilsport.

You're gonna give "O" some ideas of things to raise taxes on in order
to force you to
buy an oversized golf cart which is what he's gonna force Ford, GM and
Chrysler to build if they want a bailout.

Eisboch

Heaven forbid U.S. car makers produce mostly high quality, smaller, fuel
efficient cars that people want to buy and dump most of the oversized,
overpowered, mediocre quality V8's behemoths that get 13 mpg. Or less.


Again, you get it wrong. If the vast majority of people wanted to buy
smaller, fuel efficient cars,
Detroit would have been be turning them out by the millions for years.

That may change (and it should), but the point is .... Detroit builds
what people buy.

Eisboch

Apparently Detroit builds what people don't what to buy.

Actually have a car dealership finance manager in the family. Inside word
is that they have buyers, but credit bounces. Basically you need sufficient
collateral, job or cash with a good rating. Just like 40 years ago. They
are losing 9/10 sales this way.

I guess part of this is that a good part of the debt financed middle class
is bankrupt.

Canuck57 wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"JR North" wrote in message
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Gas your pigs up while you can. Not gonna tow Cruis'n Rulz! to the
pump. Gonna just get 5 gal at a time and fill her up at home. Don't
expect the prices will hold till next spring. If you wait, you might
just find it back to $4
JR

Nobody likes a spoilsport.

You're gonna give "O" some ideas of things to raise taxes on in order
to force you to
buy an oversized golf cart which is what he's gonna force Ford, GM and
Chrysler to build if they want a bailout.

Eisboch
Heaven forbid U.S. car makers produce mostly high quality, smaller, fuel
efficient cars that people want to buy and dump most of the oversized,
overpowered, mediocre quality V8's behemoths that get 13 mpg. Or less.

Again, you get it wrong. If the vast majority of people wanted to buy
smaller, fuel efficient cars,
Detroit would have been be turning them out by the millions for years.

That may change (and it should), but the point is .... Detroit builds
what people buy.

Eisboch
Apparently Detroit builds what people don't what to buy.

Actually have a car dealership finance manager in the family. Inside word
is that they have buyers, but credit bounces. Basically you need sufficient
collateral, job or cash with a good rating. Just like 40 years ago. They
are losing 9/10 sales this way.

I guess part of this is that a good part of the debt financed middle class
is bankrupt.

I believe they tried to live beyond their means, at least in the US, by
using the perceived or believed value of their home as a checking
account. Now they are fat in the belly with memories of lavish vacations
and a mountain of debt.

"BAR" wrote in message
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I believe they tried to live beyond their means, at least in the US, by
using the perceived or believed value of their home as a checking account.
Now they are fat in the belly with memories of lavish vacations and a
mountain of debt.


Someone made a similar observation on one of the cable news interviews
yesterday.
I forget who it was, but (I think it was a woman) she also pointed out that
we have a whole generation now-a-days with no direct contact to the
Depression years. She pointed out that in the past, families sat around at
the dinner table with grandma or grandpa describing in real terms what the
Great Depression was like. The stories had an impact on the financial
management of the next generation's money and income.

Now, the stories of life in the Great Depression are read in history books
only and have about as much influence on people as stories of the Pilgrims
landing on Plymouth Rock.

Eisboch