wrote:
I found this site with 12 gage pepper shells for loading into a hand
held flare gun:
http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...specialty-ammo
This would avoid buying a "real" gun for defending ones sailboat from
pirates. Thoughts?


If the pirates are eight-year-old girls or dumb little big-mouth schitts
like loogy, herring, or florida jim, maybe.

Real pirates? They inhale pepper spray to clear their sinuses.

If you are afraid of pirates, get yourself a stainless steel shotgun in
12 gauge and practice with it out on a range. Put a light coat of
protective coating on the shotgun, clean it up once a month at least,
and stow it on boat in a dry bag.

Boater wrote:
wrote:
I found this site with 12 gage pepper shells for loading into a hand
held flare gun:
http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...specialty-ammo

This would avoid buying a "real" gun for defending ones sailboat from
pirates. Thoughts?


If the pirates are eight-year-old girls or dumb little big-mouth schitts
like loogy, herring, or florida jim, maybe.

Real pirates? They inhale pepper spray to clear their sinuses.

If you are afraid of pirates, get yourself a stainless steel shotgun in
12 gauge and practice with it out on a range. Put a light coat of
protective coating on the shotgun, clean it up once a month at least,
and stow it on boat in a dry bag.

Modern pirates use RPG launchers. You have to match fire power.

Sinking their boat will tend to deter future raids.

Andrew Swallow

Andrew Swallow wrote:

I found this site with 12 gage pepper shells for loading into a hand
held flare gun:
http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...12-gauge-speci
alty-ammo

This would avoid buying a "real" gun for defending ones sailboat
from pirates. Thoughts?

Modern pirates use RPG launchers. You have to match fire power.

So bring an RPG launcer yourself. Better yet, how about a MILAN or
Sagger anti-tank missile? You could *out*-gun them that way!

Can you adapt a Stinger missile or SAM-7 for surface-to-surface use?
You'd have even more range and flexibility that way.

Sinking their boat will tend to deter future raids.

Hanging them from the yardarm would be even more fun, though.

Dennis

On Oct 29, 2:17*am, Dennis wrote:
Andrew Swallow wrote:
I found this site with 12 gage pepper shells for loading into a hand
held flare gun:
http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...12-gauge-speci
alty-ammo

This would avoid buying a "real" gun for defending ones sailboat
from pirates. *Thoughts?

Modern pirates use RPG launchers. *You have to match fire power.

* * * * So bring an RPG launcer yourself. *Better yet, how about a MILAN or
Sagger anti-tank missile? *You could *out*-gun them that way! *

* * * * Can you adapt a Stinger missile or *SAM-7 for surface-to-surface use? *
You'd have even more range and flexibility that way. *

Sinking their boat will tend to deter future raids.

* * * * Hanging them from the yardarm would be even more fun, though. *

Dennis

Drop a piano on them. They don't pay the crews of the ships captured
to defend the ship. Hanging is a very personal method of killing.
There is a reason hangmen do not show their faces.

"Dennis" wrote in message
.4...
Andrew Swallow wrote:

I found this site with 12 gage pepper shells for loading into a hand
held flare gun:
http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...12-gauge-speci
alty-ammo

This would avoid buying a "real" gun for defending ones sailboat
from pirates. Thoughts?

Modern pirates use RPG launchers. You have to match fire power.

So bring an RPG launcer yourself. Better yet, how about a MILAN or
Sagger anti-tank missile? You could *out*-gun them that way!

Can you adapt a Stinger missile or SAM-7 for surface-to-surface use?
You'd have even more range and flexibility that way.

"Hello, my name's 'Hamid the Mad Bomber', here's my skipper's ticket and a
letter from my shipping company, it's called 'The Terrorist Shipping
Line", saying that I work for them. I'll have 6 RPGs and a SAM-7 to go
please..."

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

On Oct 29, 7:25*am, "William Black"
wrote:
"Dennis" wrote in message

.4...





Andrew Swallow wrote:

I found this site with 12 gage pepper shells for loading into a hand
held flare gun:
http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...12-gauge-speci
alty-ammo

This would avoid buying a "real" gun for defending ones sailboat
from pirates. *Thoughts?

Modern pirates use RPG launchers. *You have to match fire power.

* *So bring an RPG launcer yourself. *Better yet, how about a MILAN or
Sagger anti-tank missile? *You could *out*-gun them that way!

* *Can you adapt a Stinger missile or *SAM-7 for surface-to-surface use?
You'd have even more range and flexibility that way.

"Hello, *my name's 'Hamid the Mad Bomber', *here's my skipper's ticket and a
letter from my shipping company, *it's called *'The Terrorist Shipping
Line", *saying that I work for them. I'll have 6 RPGs and a SAM-7 to go
please..."

I'm sure the company would have some serious hurdles. As for
terrorists they can get some pretty nasty stuff already.

"David E. Powell" wrote in message
...
On Oct 29, 7:25 am, "William Black"
wrote:
"Dennis" wrote in message

.4...





Andrew Swallow wrote:

I found this site with 12 gage pepper shells for loading into a hand
held flare gun:
http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...12-gauge-speci
alty-ammo

This would avoid buying a "real" gun for defending ones sailboat
from pirates. Thoughts?

Modern pirates use RPG launchers. You have to match fire power.

So bring an RPG launcer yourself. Better yet, how about a MILAN or
Sagger anti-tank missile? You could *out*-gun them that way!

Can you adapt a Stinger missile or SAM-7 for surface-to-surface use?
You'd have even more range and flexibility that way.

"Hello, my name's 'Hamid the Mad Bomber', here's my skipper's ticket and a
letter from my shipping company, it's called 'The Terrorist Shipping
Line", saying that I work for them. I'll have 6 RPGs and a SAM-7 to go
please..."

I'm sure the company would have some serious hurdles.

------------------

What sort?

Small freighters are available for less than 'telephone number' money. I
found half a dozen in a web search that took less than ten minutes, all for
less than a million dollars US

A limited company can be bought in the UK for £100 and its registered
address can be a sympathetic lawyer's office.

And then you've got an Arab owned British shipping company (ship registered
in Liberia of course) that's doing business in the area and has a perfect
right to the stuff.

Invent a couple of small trading companies and ship cheap rubbish around the
Gulf and the Horn for about a year, complete with all the necessary
paperwork, and then ring someone up and say something like 'Hey man, like
we want our guns man, we're human too you know...' and await delivery and a
training package...

Now I'm sure if I can work this sort of thing out the highly paid
intelligence analysists of the CIA can as well, but it would be horribly
difficult to spot the dud company from the real one.

Freight shipping in smallish freighters has always been a pretty dirty
business.

The easy solution is not to allow merchant ships anything more lethal than a
rifle...

--
William Black


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

On Oct 30, 3:43*pm, "William Black"
wrote:
"David E. Powell" wrote in ...
On Oct 29, 7:25 am, "William Black"
wrote:



"Dennis" wrote in message

. 1.4...

Andrew Swallow wrote:

I found this site with 12 gage pepper shells for loading into a hand
held flare gun:
http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...12-gauge-speci
alty-ammo

This would avoid buying a "real" gun for defending ones sailboat
from pirates. Thoughts?

Modern pirates use RPG launchers. You have to match fire power.

So bring an RPG launcer yourself. Better yet, how about a MILAN or
Sagger anti-tank missile? You could *out*-gun them that way!

Can you adapt a Stinger missile or SAM-7 for surface-to-surface use?
You'd have even more range and flexibility that way.

"Hello, my name's 'Hamid the Mad Bomber', here's my skipper's ticket and a
letter from my shipping company, it's called 'The Terrorist Shipping
Line", saying that I work for them. I'll have 6 RPGs and a SAM-7 to go
please..."

I'm sure the company would have some serious hurdles.

------------------

What sort?

Small freighters are available for less than 'telephone number' money. *I
found half a dozen in a web search that took less than ten minutes, *all for
less than a million dollars US

A limited company can be bought in the UK for £100 and its registered
address can be a sympathetic lawyer's office.

And then you've got an Arab owned British shipping company (ship registered
in Liberia of course) that's doing business in the area and has a perfect
right to the stuff.

Invent a couple of small trading companies and ship cheap rubbish around the
Gulf and the Horn for about a year, *complete with all the necessary
paperwork, and then ring someone up and say something like 'Hey man, *like
we want our guns man, *we're human too you know...' and await delivery and a
training package...

Now I'm sure if I can work this sort of thing out the highly paid
intelligence analysists of the CIA can as well, *but it would be horribly
difficult to spot the dud company from the real one.

Freight shipping in smallish freighters has always been a pretty dirty
business.

The easy solution is not to allow merchant ships anything more lethal than a
rifle...

--
William Black

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Barbeques on fire by the chalets past the castle headland
I watched the gift shops glitter in the darkness off the Newborough gate
All these moments will be lost in time, *like icecream on the beach
Time for tea.

Probably spot the dud company the same way Valerie Plame's op was
outed, not enough documentation and reaction. Call the telephone
number, several times, usually not answered or answered by an
answering service. Look for membership in shipping organizations,
address in "home" country, hiring patterns for crew, agents.

A Russian op would probably look real, a Russian-backed op probably as
well. It's called experience in the "legend".

On 29 Oct 2008 06:17:56 GMT, Dennis
wrote:

Hanging them from the yardarm would be even more fun, though.

There is a place right downtown in London called Execution Dock.
Legend is that they would peg down pirates on the river bottom at low
tide. Drowning occured when the tide came in. For the modern
variation, chain them to their boat and shoot a not very big hole in
it.

Casady

On Oct 28, 2:36*pm, Boater wrote:
wrote:
I found this site with 12 gage pepper shells for loading into a hand
held flare gun:
http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalo...12-gauge-speci....
This would avoid buying a "real" gun for defending ones sailboat from
pirates. *Thoughts?

If the pirates are eight-year-old girls or dumb little big-mouth schitts
like loogy, herring, or florida jim, maybe.


Hey, Harry, I'm glad I'm not a foul mouthed, fat nail chewing stinky
neanderthal like you. Tell us more about hunting for bodies in
Vietnam.