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[email protected] October 20th 08 05:46 PM

Man I loathe truck payments
 
I have kept my two old trucks running far beyond reason with my old
1985 Nissan having 313,000 and the 1988 Dodge having somewhere between
180,000 and 200,000. This weekend, coming back from working on my
sailboat, I was seriously worried the Nissan would not get me home.
Not only is the transmission going bad, the center support bearing is
gone from the driveshaft, I cannot get her to go into reverse without
effort, now I seem to have a timing issue making her miss a lot and
lose power (maybe timing chain has slipped). No gages except the tach
and odometer work. One of the front drive axles has a torn boot (I
never use the 4wd so it does not matter). She would not pass
inspection anywhere else cuz the pollution control stuff long ago
rusted away.
Now the Dodge (the only vehicle I allow my 18 yr old son to drive) has
developed transmission probs. I simply cannot continue to repair so
many things because it takes all my time.
I loathe the idea of truck payments and comprehensive insurance but it
looks as if I'll have to just do it if I want to keep towing my boat.

Vic Smith October 20th 08 05:54 PM

Man I loathe truck payments
 
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:46:42 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

I have kept my two old trucks running far beyond reason with my old
1985 Nissan having 313,000 and the 1988 Dodge having somewhere between
180,000 and 200,000. This weekend, coming back from working on my
sailboat, I was seriously worried the Nissan would not get me home.
Not only is the transmission going bad, the center support bearing is
gone from the driveshaft, I cannot get her to go into reverse without
effort, now I seem to have a timing issue making her miss a lot and
lose power (maybe timing chain has slipped). No gages except the tach
and odometer work. One of the front drive axles has a torn boot (I
never use the 4wd so it does not matter). She would not pass
inspection anywhere else cuz the pollution control stuff long ago
rusted away.
Now the Dodge (the only vehicle I allow my 18 yr old son to drive) has
developed transmission probs. I simply cannot continue to repair so
many things because it takes all my time.
I loathe the idea of truck payments and comprehensive insurance but it
looks as if I'll have to just do it if I want to keep towing my boat.


Plenty of used trucks out there. 3-5 grand will get a decent one you
won't have fix daily, depending how careful you are in picking one.
No need for payments or paying comp.
Your choice.

--Vic

[email protected] October 20th 08 05:56 PM

Man I loathe truck payments
 
On Oct 20, 12:46 pm, wrote:
I have kept my two old trucks running far beyond reason with my old
1985 Nissan having 313,000 and the 1988 Dodge having somewhere between
180,000 and 200,000. This weekend, coming back from working on my
sailboat, I was seriously worried the Nissan would not get me home.
Not only is the transmission going bad, the center support bearing is
gone from the driveshaft, I cannot get her to go into reverse without
effort, now I seem to have a timing issue making her miss a lot and
lose power (maybe timing chain has slipped). No gages except the tach
and odometer work. One of the front drive axles has a torn boot (I
never use the 4wd so it does not matter). She would not pass
inspection anywhere else cuz the pollution control stuff long ago
rusted away.
Now the Dodge (the only vehicle I allow my 18 yr old son to drive) has
developed transmission probs. I simply cannot continue to repair so
many things because it takes all my time.
I loathe the idea of truck payments and comprehensive insurance but it
looks as if I'll have to just do it if I want to keep towing my boat.


Maybe I am too obsessive about having little debt but I always thought
of it as a freedom issue. With little debt I could do as I pleased.
Of course, having kids changed that some but still I have waaaaaay
less debt than most. It just seems WRONG to take on debt that ties me
down. My wife says "Dont worry about it, you'll keep this truck for
20 years too" but it is the near term debt idea that slays me. Saving
up to pay almost all cash would be difficult with so many kid expenses
and my wifes mouth surgery and so on and on, even the down payment is
tough when we want to keep a reasonable cash reserve just in case.
How do y'all justify debt on a vehicle to yourself?

Vic Smith October 20th 08 06:13 PM

Man I loathe truck payments
 
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:56:48 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:


How do y'all justify debt on a vehicle to yourself?


Everybody's different. You might guess I pay cash.
Had a $1100 note on a used '64 Olds way back,
because I didn't have the cash and had to get to work.
Paid that off way early.
Most I ever paid for a car was $6k.
Had 31k miles, and I junked it at 190k 11 years later when it rusted
out. Well less than $1k in repairs, and it only failed to start once.
If you go used, talk to plenty of truck mechanics first.
They'll put you onto the right one.
Some people don't mind getting into debt for a car/truck.
I'm not one of them, and you don't seem to like it either.
Doing your own repairs helps.
Second best is having a good mechanic.
But picking the right vehicle is the key.

--Vic

[email protected] October 20th 08 06:15 PM

Man I loathe truck payments
 
On Oct 20, 12:56*pm, wrote:
On Oct 20, 12:46 pm, wrote:





I have kept my two old trucks running far beyond reason with my old
1985 Nissan having 313,000 and the 1988 Dodge having somewhere between
180,000 and 200,000. *This weekend, coming back from working on my
sailboat, I was seriously worried the Nissan would not get me home.
Not only is the transmission going bad, the center support bearing is
gone from the driveshaft, I cannot get her to go into reverse without
effort, now I seem to have a timing issue making her miss a lot and
lose power (maybe timing chain has slipped). *No gages except the tach
and odometer work. *One of the front drive axles has a torn boot (I
never use the 4wd so it does not matter). *She would not pass
inspection anywhere else cuz the pollution control stuff long ago
rusted away.
Now the Dodge (the only vehicle I allow my 18 yr old son to drive) has
developed transmission probs. *I simply cannot continue to repair so
many things because it takes all my time.
I loathe the idea of truck payments and comprehensive insurance but it
looks as if I'll have to just do it if I want to keep towing my boat.


Maybe I am too obsessive about having little debt but I always thought
of it as a freedom issue. *With little debt I could do as I pleased.
Of course, having kids changed that some but still I have waaaaaay
less debt than most. *It just seems WRONG to take on debt that ties me
down. *My wife says "Dont worry about it, you'll keep this truck for
20 years too" but it is the near term debt idea that slays me. *Saving
up to pay almost all cash would be difficult with so many kid expenses
and my wifes mouth surgery and so on and on, even the down payment is
tough when we want to keep a reasonable cash reserve just in case.
How do y'all justify debt on a vehicle to yourself?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Same way, I get a new truck, then drive it for 350,000 or so miles. I
figure if I get a vehicle with a four or five year loan, and drive it
for 12 or 15 years, I'm good to go!

Jim October 20th 08 06:16 PM

Man I loathe truck payments
 
wrote:
On Oct 20, 12:46 pm, wrote:
I have kept my two old trucks running far beyond reason with my old
1985 Nissan having 313,000 and the 1988 Dodge having somewhere between
180,000 and 200,000. This weekend, coming back from working on my
sailboat, I was seriously worried the Nissan would not get me home.
Not only is the transmission going bad, the center support bearing is
gone from the driveshaft, I cannot get her to go into reverse without
effort, now I seem to have a timing issue making her miss a lot and
lose power (maybe timing chain has slipped). No gages except the tach
and odometer work. One of the front drive axles has a torn boot (I
never use the 4wd so it does not matter). She would not pass
inspection anywhere else cuz the pollution control stuff long ago
rusted away.
Now the Dodge (the only vehicle I allow my 18 yr old son to drive) has
developed transmission probs. I simply cannot continue to repair so
many things because it takes all my time.
I loathe the idea of truck payments and comprehensive insurance but it
looks as if I'll have to just do it if I want to keep towing my boat.


Maybe I am too obsessive about having little debt but I always thought
of it as a freedom issue. With little debt I could do as I pleased.
Of course, having kids changed that some but still I have waaaaaay
less debt than most. It just seems WRONG to take on debt that ties me
down. My wife says "Dont worry about it, you'll keep this truck for
20 years too" but it is the near term debt idea that slays me. Saving
up to pay almost all cash would be difficult with so many kid expenses
and my wifes mouth surgery and so on and on, even the down payment is
tough when we want to keep a reasonable cash reserve just in case.




How do y'all justify debt on a vehicle to yourself?


I imagine it involves a lot of lying to ones self

Boater October 20th 08 06:21 PM

Man I loathe truck payments
 
wrote:
I have kept my two old trucks running far beyond reason with my old
1985 Nissan having 313,000 and the 1988 Dodge having somewhere between
180,000 and 200,000. This weekend, coming back from working on my
sailboat, I was seriously worried the Nissan would not get me home.
Not only is the transmission going bad, the center support bearing is
gone from the driveshaft, I cannot get her to go into reverse without
effort, now I seem to have a timing issue making her miss a lot and
lose power (maybe timing chain has slipped). No gages except the tach
and odometer work. One of the front drive axles has a torn boot (I
never use the 4wd so it does not matter). She would not pass
inspection anywhere else cuz the pollution control stuff long ago
rusted away.
Now the Dodge (the only vehicle I allow my 18 yr old son to drive) has
developed transmission probs. I simply cannot continue to repair so
many things because it takes all my time.
I loathe the idea of truck payments and comprehensive insurance but it
looks as if I'll have to just do it if I want to keep towing my boat.



Use the huge tax refund you'll be getting from McPalin.

Tim October 20th 08 06:24 PM

Man I loathe truck payments
 
On Oct 20, 11:46*am, wrote:
I have kept my two old trucks running far beyond reason with my old
1985 Nissan having 313,000 and the 1988 Dodge having somewhere between
180,000 and 200,000. *This weekend, coming back from working on my
sailboat, I was seriously worried the Nissan would not get me home.
Not only is the transmission going bad, the center support bearing is
gone from the driveshaft, I cannot get her to go into reverse without
effort, now I seem to have a timing issue making her miss a lot and
lose power (maybe timing chain has slipped). *No gages except the tach
and odometer work. *One of the front drive axles has a torn boot (I
never use the 4wd so it does not matter). *She would not pass
inspection anywhere else cuz the pollution control stuff long ago
rusted away.
Now the Dodge (the only vehicle I allow my 18 yr old son to drive) has
developed transmission probs. *I simply cannot continue to repair so
many things because it takes all my time.
I loathe the idea of truck payments and comprehensive insurance but it
looks as if I'll have to just do it if I want to keep towing my boat.


From what limited knowledge I have concerning Nissans, the
transmissions were a one-shot deal. from what I know, the transmission
casings didn't even have berings on the end suppord and ran with the
shafts right into the bored aluminum. When the transmission started
acting up it was usually because the aluminum casing was worn out. So
the only option was to find a New, re-man, used trans. or get a new
casing and transfer the already half-worn guts into it.

I'd say the truck is toast.

But don't feel bad. I hate making payments too!

It never seems to bother the mrs. though.

[email protected] October 20th 08 06:25 PM

Man I loathe truck payments
 
On Oct 20, 1:16 pm, jim wrote:
wrote:
On Oct 20, 12:46 pm, wrote:
I have kept my two old trucks running far beyond reason with my old
1985 Nissan having 313,000 and the 1988 Dodge having somewhere between
180,000 and 200,000. This weekend, coming back from working on my
sailboat, I was seriously worried the Nissan would not get me home.
Not only is the transmission going bad, the center support bearing is
gone from the driveshaft, I cannot get her to go into reverse without
effort, now I seem to have a timing issue making her miss a lot and
lose power (maybe timing chain has slipped). No gages except the tach
and odometer work. One of the front drive axles has a torn boot (I
never use the 4wd so it does not matter). She would not pass
inspection anywhere else cuz the pollution control stuff long ago
rusted away.
Now the Dodge (the only vehicle I allow my 18 yr old son to drive) has
developed transmission probs. I simply cannot continue to repair so
many things because it takes all my time.
I loathe the idea of truck payments and comprehensive insurance but it
looks as if I'll have to just do it if I want to keep towing my boat.


Maybe I am too obsessive about having little debt but I always thought
of it as a freedom issue. With little debt I could do as I pleased.
Of course, having kids changed that some but still I have waaaaaay
less debt than most. It just seems WRONG to take on debt that ties me
down. My wife says "Dont worry about it, you'll keep this truck for
20 years too" but it is the near term debt idea that slays me. Saving
up to pay almost all cash would be difficult with so many kid expenses
and my wifes mouth surgery and so on and on, even the down payment is
tough when we want to keep a reasonable cash reserve just in case.
How do y'all justify debt on a vehicle to yourself?


I imagine it involves a lot of lying to ones self


Quite frankly, I am finding that I have little time to do any repairs
the past few years. Fortunately, my trucks are so old that I dont
have to do that much cuz all the stupid stuff like pollution canisters
long ago fell off. It is possible that I am old enough that I can
justify not lyin under a truck in the heat to replace a clutch. I
lalso know that I have waaaaay too many projects to spend much time on
repairs. Maybe I am just tired of doing it.
Here is a possible scheme: Buy a Titan or Tundra and then build a
trailer to allow me to occasionally haul the 7700 lb sailboat places.
Could I justify this with the Titan or Tundra costing about 1.4X the
gas all the time? The smaller Tacoma or Frontier would easily haul
the Tolman Skiff.
Y'all with larger trucks, how did you justify it?

Tim October 20th 08 06:30 PM

Man I loathe truck payments
 
On Oct 20, 12:13*pm, Vic Smith
wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:56:48 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

How do y'all justify debt on a vehicle to yourself?


Everybody's different. *You might guess I pay cash.
Had a $1100 note on a used '64 Olds way back,
because I didn't have the cash and had to get to work.
Paid that off way early.
Most I ever paid for a car was $6k.
Had 31k miles, and I junked it at 190k 11 years later when it rusted
out. *Well less than $1k in repairs, and it only failed to start once.
If you go used, talk to plenty of truck mechanics first.
They'll put you onto the right one.
Some people don't mind getting into debt for a car/truck.
I'm not one of them, and you don't seem to like it either.
Doing your own repairs helps.
Second best is having a good mechanic.
But picking the right vehicle is the key.

--Vic


That's what I like about my '90 mercury wagon. It's a good car. paint
isn't the best but not bad. It cleans up nicely and I don't mind
taking it on a trip. The 302 engine isn't the best for pulling the
heavy boat, but it does the job. I've got less than $1100.00 in it not
counting the maintenance (tires and brakes) And I plan on driving it
for another couple years (minimum) or so. Which will make my 5 year
anniversary with it.

No. I'm not a slave to fashion.

[email protected] October 20th 08 06:35 PM

Man I loathe truck payments
 
On Oct 20, 1:30 pm, Tim wrote:
On Oct 20, 12:13 pm, Vic Smith
wrote:



On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:56:48 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:


How do y'all justify debt on a vehicle to yourself?


Everybody's different. You might guess I pay cash.
Had a $1100 note on a used '64 Olds way back,
because I didn't have the cash and had to get to work.
Paid that off way early.
Most I ever paid for a car was $6k.
Had 31k miles, and I junked it at 190k 11 years later when it rusted
out. Well less than $1k in repairs, and it only failed to start once.
If you go used, talk to plenty of truck mechanics first.
They'll put you onto the right one.
Some people don't mind getting into debt for a car/truck.
I'm not one of them, and you don't seem to like it either.
Doing your own repairs helps.
Second best is having a good mechanic.
But picking the right vehicle is the key.


--Vic


That's what I like about my '90 mercury wagon. It's a good car. paint
isn't the best but not bad. It cleans up nicely and I don't mind
taking it on a trip. The 302 engine isn't the best for pulling the
heavy boat, but it does the job. I've got less than $1100.00 in it not
counting the maintenance (tires and brakes) And I plan on driving it
for another couple years (minimum) or so. Which will make my 5 year
anniversary with it.

No. I'm not a slave to fashion.


Is it possible to rent a large truck to tow my heavy sailboat? I have
never seen such.

Tim October 20th 08 06:40 PM

Man I loathe truck payments
 
On Oct 20, 12:35*pm, wrote:
On Oct 20, 1:30 pm, Tim wrote:





On Oct 20, 12:13 pm, Vic Smith
wrote:


On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:56:48 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:


How do y'all justify debt on a vehicle to yourself?


Everybody's different. *You might guess I pay cash.
Had a $1100 note on a used '64 Olds way back,
because I didn't have the cash and had to get to work.
Paid that off way early.
Most I ever paid for a car was $6k.
Had 31k miles, and I junked it at 190k 11 years later when it rusted
out. *Well less than $1k in repairs, and it only failed to start once.
If you go used, talk to plenty of truck mechanics first.
They'll put you onto the right one.
Some people don't mind getting into debt for a car/truck.
I'm not one of them, and you don't seem to like it either.
Doing your own repairs helps.
Second best is having a good mechanic.
But picking the right vehicle is the key.


--Vic


That's what I like about my '90 mercury wagon. It's a good car. paint
isn't the best but not bad. It cleans up nicely and I don't mind
taking it on a trip. The 302 engine isn't the best for pulling the
heavy boat, but it does the job. I've got less than $1100.00 in it not
counting the maintenance (tires and brakes) And I plan on driving it
for another couple years (minimum) or so. Which will make my 5 year
anniversary with it.


No. I'm not a slave to fashion.


Is it possible to rent a large truck to tow my heavy sailboat? *I have
never seen such.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


You probably can. Check a local dealer and see if they have a heavy
used truck (dodge ram2500) or Ford power stroke, that they would rent
for a day or wekend. some places will.Because it's not making them
any revenue just sitting there.

[email protected] October 20th 08 07:01 PM

Man I loathe truck payments
 
On Oct 20, 1:40 pm, Tim wrote:
On Oct 20, 12:35 pm, wrote:



On Oct 20, 1:30 pm, Tim wrote:


On Oct 20, 12:13 pm, Vic Smith
wrote:


On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:56:48 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:


How do y'all justify debt on a vehicle to yourself?


Everybody's different. You might guess I pay cash.
Had a $1100 note on a used '64 Olds way back,
because I didn't have the cash and had to get to work.
Paid that off way early.
Most I ever paid for a car was $6k.
Had 31k miles, and I junked it at 190k 11 years later when it rusted
out. Well less than $1k in repairs, and it only failed to start once.
If you go used, talk to plenty of truck mechanics first.
They'll put you onto the right one.
Some people don't mind getting into debt for a car/truck.
I'm not one of them, and you don't seem to like it either.
Doing your own repairs helps.
Second best is having a good mechanic.
But picking the right vehicle is the key.


--Vic


That's what I like about my '90 mercury wagon. It's a good car. paint
isn't the best but not bad. It cleans up nicely and I don't mind
taking it on a trip. The 302 engine isn't the best for pulling the
heavy boat, but it does the job. I've got less than $1100.00 in it not
counting the maintenance (tires and brakes) And I plan on driving it
for another couple years (minimum) or so. Which will make my 5 year
anniversary with it.


No. I'm not a slave to fashion.


Is it possible to rent a large truck to tow my heavy sailboat? I have
never seen such.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


You probably can. Check a local dealer and see if they have a heavy
used truck (dodge ram2500) or Ford power stroke, that they would rent
for a day or wekend. some places will.Because it's not making them
any revenue just sitting there.


Unfortunately, for towing the sailboat, I'd need a one way rental, not
likely

[email protected] October 20th 08 07:07 PM

Man I loathe truck payments
 
On Oct 20, 2:01*pm, wrote:
On Oct 20, 1:40 pm, Tim wrote:





On Oct 20, 12:35 pm, wrote:


On Oct 20, 1:30 pm, Tim wrote:


On Oct 20, 12:13 pm, Vic Smith
wrote:


On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:56:48 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:


How do y'all justify debt on a vehicle to yourself?


Everybody's different. *You might guess I pay cash.
Had a $1100 note on a used '64 Olds way back,
because I didn't have the cash and had to get to work.
Paid that off way early.
Most I ever paid for a car was $6k.
Had 31k miles, and I junked it at 190k 11 years later when it rusted
out. *Well less than $1k in repairs, and it only failed to start once.
If you go used, talk to plenty of truck mechanics first.
They'll put you onto the right one.
Some people don't mind getting into debt for a car/truck.
I'm not one of them, and you don't seem to like it either.
Doing your own repairs helps.
Second best is having a good mechanic.
But picking the right vehicle is the key.


--Vic


That's what I like about my '90 mercury wagon. It's a good car. paint
isn't the best but not bad. It cleans up nicely and I don't mind
taking it on a trip. The 302 engine isn't the best for pulling the
heavy boat, but it does the job. I've got less than $1100.00 in it not
counting the maintenance (tires and brakes) And I plan on driving it
for another couple years (minimum) or so. Which will make my 5 year
anniversary with it.


No. I'm not a slave to fashion.


Is it possible to rent a large truck to tow my heavy sailboat? *I have
never seen such.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


You probably can. Check a local dealer and see if they have a heavy
used truck (dodge ram2500) or Ford power stroke, that they would rent
for a day or wekend. *some places will.Because it's not making them
any revenue just sitting there.


Unfortunately, for towing the sailboat, I'd need a one way rental, not
likely- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


U-Haul will rent one-way, and they have trucks capable of towing.

[email protected] October 20th 08 07:12 PM

Man I loathe truck payments
 
On Oct 20, 2:07 pm, wrote:
On Oct 20, 2:01 pm, wrote:



On Oct 20, 1:40 pm, Tim wrote:


On Oct 20, 12:35 pm, wrote:


On Oct 20, 1:30 pm, Tim wrote:


On Oct 20, 12:13 pm, Vic Smith
wrote:


On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 09:56:48 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:


How do y'all justify debt on a vehicle to yourself?


Everybody's different. You might guess I pay cash.
Had a $1100 note on a used '64 Olds way back,
because I didn't have the cash and had to get to work.
Paid that off way early.
Most I ever paid for a car was $6k.
Had 31k miles, and I junked it at 190k 11 years later when it rusted
out. Well less than $1k in repairs, and it only failed to start once.
If you go used, talk to plenty of truck mechanics first.
They'll put you onto the right one.
Some people don't mind getting into debt for a car/truck.
I'm not one of them, and you don't seem to like it either.
Doing your own repairs helps.
Second best is having a good mechanic.
But picking the right vehicle is the key.


--Vic


That's what I like about my '90 mercury wagon. It's a good car. paint
isn't the best but not bad. It cleans up nicely and I don't mind
taking it on a trip. The 302 engine isn't the best for pulling the
heavy boat, but it does the job. I've got less than $1100.00 in it not
counting the maintenance (tires and brakes) And I plan on driving it
for another couple years (minimum) or so. Which will make my 5 year
anniversary with it.


No. I'm not a slave to fashion.


Is it possible to rent a large truck to tow my heavy sailboat? I have
never seen such.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


You probably can. Check a local dealer and see if they have a heavy
used truck (dodge ram2500) or Ford power stroke, that they would rent
for a day or wekend. some places will.Because it's not making them
any revenue just sitting there.


Unfortunately, for towing the sailboat, I'd need a one way rental, not
likely- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


U-Haul will rent one-way, and they have trucks capable of towing.


I once tried Uhaul for my old smaller sailboat and they would not
allow me to tow with it. Maybe this has changed.

Vic Smith October 20th 08 07:15 PM

Man I loathe truck payments
 
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:30:10 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:



That's what I like about my '90 mercury wagon. It's a good car. paint
isn't the best but not bad. It cleans up nicely and I don't mind
taking it on a trip. The 302 engine isn't the best for pulling the
heavy boat, but it does the job. I've got less than $1100.00 in it not
counting the maintenance (tires and brakes) And I plan on driving it
for another couple years (minimum) or so. Which will make my 5 year
anniversary with it.

No. I'm not a slave to fashion.


Hehe. The trick is knowing the reliable drivetrains.
I stick to GM 2.8 based, including the 3.1's. The 2.2 four
is rock solid too. Not up on the GM transmissions, but haven't
had problems anyway.
Have to do your homework.
Except for my 352, haven't messed with Fords, but if I did,
I read up on them, talk to mechanics and get the skinny.
All the manufacturers make solid cars and they all make problematic
cars. Knowing which is which keeps you out of trouble.
Like you, I don't care much about looks.
I've had some cars I thought were homely when I first got them.
As years passed with no problems, they got prettier and prettier.

--Vic

[email protected] October 20th 08 07:19 PM

Man I loathe truck payments
 
On Oct 20, 2:15*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:30:10 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:



That's what I like about my '90 mercury wagon. It's a good car. paint
isn't the best but not bad. It cleans up nicely and I don't mind
taking it on a trip. The 302 engine isn't the best for pulling the
heavy boat, but it does the job. I've got less than $1100.00 in it not
counting the maintenance (tires and brakes) And I plan on driving it
for another couple years (minimum) or so. Which will make my 5 year
anniversary with it.


No. I'm not a slave to fashion.


Hehe. *The trick is knowing the reliable drivetrains.
I stick to GM 2.8 based, including the 3.1's. *The 2.2 four
is rock solid too. *Not up on the GM transmissions, but haven't
had problems anyway.
Have to do your homework.
Except for my 352, haven't messed with Fords, but if I did,
I read up on them, talk to mechanics and get the skinny.
All the manufacturers make solid cars and they all make problematic
cars. *Knowing which is which keeps you out of trouble.
Like you, I don't care much about looks. *
I've had some cars I thought were homely when I first got them.
As years passed with no problems, they got prettier and prettier.

--Vic


My Jeep Cherokee was like that. Rock solid. That thing ran decent with
well over 350k on it. Lifters seemed quiter every end of the month
when I didn't have to make a payment!

JohnH[_3_] October 20th 08 07:30 PM

Man I loathe truck payments
 
..
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]

Vic Smith October 20th 08 07:36 PM

Man I loathe truck payments
 
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:19:27 -0700 (PDT), wrote:



My Jeep Cherokee was like that. Rock solid. That thing ran decent with
well over 350k on it. Lifters seemed quiter every end of the month
when I didn't have to make a payment!


It seems to me a car reaches a point where you say to it "You done
good." Means you got your money's worth.
Some years after that, even a mechanically sound car starts to test
your loyalty because of body, upholstery and under frame issues.
When the bones go, it's time to move on.

--Vic

[email protected] October 20th 08 08:42 PM

Man I loathe truck payments
 
On Oct 20, 2:36*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:19:27 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

My Jeep Cherokee was like that. Rock solid. That thing ran decent with
well over 350k on it. Lifters seemed quiter every end of the month
when I didn't have to make a payment!


It seems to me a car reaches a point where you say to it "You done
good." *Means you got your money's worth.
Some years after that, even a mechanically sound car starts to test
your loyalty because of body, upholstery and under frame issues.
When the bones go, it's time to move on.

--Vic


My Cherokee had the old style rugged as hell but not very refined
front end. Steering knuckles were getting sloppy, things leaked a lot,
etc. It was time! And my new truck rocks!

Wayne.B October 20th 08 08:45 PM

Man I loathe truck payments
 
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:25:13 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

Y'all with larger trucks, how did you justify it?


Easy, that's what I wanted. :-)

You can't go wrong with a Tundra, forget the Titan.


[email protected] October 20th 08 09:09 PM

Man I loathe truck payments
 
On Oct 20, 3:45 pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:25:13 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

Y'all with larger trucks, how did you justify it?


Easy, that's what I wanted. :-)

You can't go wrong with a Tundra, forget the Titan.


Yeah, I think my old Nissan bought for $11,000 in 1985 has done good,
time to go to the 4wd road in the sky.
I have read that the Tundra is better but have decided I cannot
justify a bigger truck even if it will haul the sailboat.

Don White October 20th 08 09:25 PM

Man I loathe truck payments
 

wrote in message
...
On Oct 20, 3:45 pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:25:13 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

Y'all with larger trucks, how did you justify it?


Easy, that's what I wanted. :-)

You can't go wrong with a Tundra, forget the Titan.


Yeah, I think my old Nissan bought for $11,000 in 1985 has done good,
time to go to the 4wd road in the sky.
I have read that the Tundra is better but have decided I cannot
justify a bigger truck even if it will haul the sailboat.


There may be a couple of posters willing to unload a nice Ford Ranger in the
near future.
I know of one 2006 2 x 4 that has just over 26000 kilometers on the
odometer...what's that.....around 16000 miles?



JimH[_2_] October 20th 08 09:34 PM

Man I loathe truck payments
 
On Oct 20, 4:25*pm, "Don White" wrote:
wrote in message

...

On Oct 20, 3:45 pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:25:13 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:


Y'all with larger trucks, how did you justify it?


Easy, that's what I wanted. * :-)


You can't go wrong with a Tundra, forget the Titan.


Yeah, I think my old Nissan bought for $11,000 in 1985 has done good,
time to go to the 4wd road in the sky.
I have read that the Tundra is better but have decided I cannot
justify a bigger truck even if it will haul the sailboat.


There may be a couple of posters willing to unload a nice Ford Ranger in the
near future.
I know of one 2006 2 x 4 that has just over 26000 kilometers on the
odometer...what's that.....around 16000 miles?


ROTF!

[email protected] October 20th 08 09:43 PM

Man I loathe truck payments
 
On Oct 20, 4:34 pm, JimH wrote:
On Oct 20, 4:25 pm, "Don White" wrote:



wrote in message


...


On Oct 20, 3:45 pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:25:13 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:


Y'all with larger trucks, how did you justify it?


Easy, that's what I wanted. :-)


You can't go wrong with a Tundra, forget the Titan.


Yeah, I think my old Nissan bought for $11,000 in 1985 has done good,
time to go to the 4wd road in the sky.
I have read that the Tundra is better but have decided I cannot
justify a bigger truck even if it will haul the sailboat.


There may be a couple of posters willing to unload a nice Ford Ranger in the
near future.
I know of one 2006 2 x 4 that has just over 26000 kilometers on the
odometer...what's that.....around 16000 miles?


ROTF!


I told my kids that when the Nissan got 333,333 on the odometer I'd
put her on the ww2 landing craft and take her to Dog Island where she
could RIP with all the other old trucks there. I'd rig a chip to
randomely play Neil Young's "Long may You Run" while the vines and
dunes slowly drifted over her. Maybe Nissan could make it a
commercial.

JimH[_2_] October 20th 08 09:45 PM

Man I loathe truck payments
 
On Oct 20, 4:43*pm, wrote:
On Oct 20, 4:34 pm, JimH wrote:



On Oct 20, 4:25 pm, "Don White" wrote:


wrote in message


....


On Oct 20, 3:45 pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:25:13 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:


Y'all with larger trucks, how did you justify it?


Easy, that's what I wanted. * :-)


You can't go wrong with a Tundra, forget the Titan.


Yeah, I think my old Nissan bought for $11,000 in 1985 has done good,
time to go to the 4wd road in the sky.
I have read that the Tundra is better but have decided I cannot
justify a bigger truck even if it will haul the sailboat.


There may be a couple of posters willing to unload a nice Ford Ranger in the
near future.
I know of one 2006 2 x 4 that has just over 26000 kilometers on the
odometer...what's that.....around 16000 miles?


ROTF!


I told my kids that when the Nissan got 333,333 on the odometer I'd
put her on the ww2 landing craft and take her to Dog Island where she
could RIP with all the other old trucks there. *I'd rig a chip to
randomely play Neil Young's "Long may You Run" while the vines and
dunes slowly drifted over her. *Maybe Nissan could make it a
commercial.


Sell it for scrap.............you may get some $750~$650 for it.

[email protected] October 20th 08 10:10 PM

Man I loathe truck payments
 
On Oct 20, 4:45 pm, JimH wrote:
On Oct 20, 4:43 pm, wrote:



On Oct 20, 4:34 pm, JimH wrote:


On Oct 20, 4:25 pm, "Don White" wrote:


wrote in message


...


On Oct 20, 3:45 pm, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:25:13 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:


Y'all with larger trucks, how did you justify it?


Easy, that's what I wanted. :-)


You can't go wrong with a Tundra, forget the Titan.


Yeah, I think my old Nissan bought for $11,000 in 1985 has done good,
time to go to the 4wd road in the sky.
I have read that the Tundra is better but have decided I cannot
justify a bigger truck even if it will haul the sailboat.


There may be a couple of posters willing to unload a nice Ford Ranger in the
near future.
I know of one 2006 2 x 4 that has just over 26000 kilometers on the
odometer...what's that.....around 16000 miles?


ROTF!


I told my kids that when the Nissan got 333,333 on the odometer I'd
put her on the ww2 landing craft and take her to Dog Island where she
could RIP with all the other old trucks there. I'd rig a chip to
randomely play Neil Young's "Long may You Run" while the vines and
dunes slowly drifted over her. Maybe Nissan could make it a
commercial.


Sell it for scrap.............you may get some $750~$650 for it.


I figured we could put black bunting on the rusted old landing craft
and have a bagpipe playing a dirge as the old Nissan is pushed aboard
with an honor guard of modern 4X4s, It'd be a real hoot for
Carabelle. Not gonna happen, would cost too much. However oughta be
something I could do with such a faithful old truck.

Eisboch October 20th 08 11:20 PM

Man I loathe truck payments
 

"Boater" wrote in message
...



Use the huge tax refund you'll be getting from McPalin.


Or the $1000 dollar tax decrease from Obama. Whoopie.

EIsboch



Boater October 20th 08 11:25 PM

Man I loathe truck payments
 
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...


Use the huge tax refund you'll be getting from McPalin.


Or the $1000 dollar tax decrease from Obama. Whoopie.

EIsboch




Easy for you to say. We didn't get a dime in last year's stimulus and I
suspect we'll be paying more no matter who gets into office. Someone has
to pay for Bush's insane war.

Wayne.B October 20th 08 11:27 PM

Man I loathe truck payments
 
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:09:45 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

Yeah, I think my old Nissan bought for $11,000 in 1985 has done good,
time to go to the 4wd road in the sky.
I have read that the Tundra is better but have decided I cannot
justify a bigger truck even if it will haul the sailboat.


Couldn't your business use a truck for something ? That way you could
lease it and right the whole thing off.


Wayne.B October 20th 08 11:29 PM

Man I loathe truck payments
 
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:10:41 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

However oughta be
something I could do with such a faithful old truck.


Planter in the front yard? I've seen that done with boats.


Eisboch October 20th 08 11:35 PM

Man I loathe truck payments
 

"Boater" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...


Use the huge tax refund you'll be getting from McPalin.


Or the $1000 dollar tax decrease from Obama. Whoopie.

EIsboch



Easy for you to say. We didn't get a dime in last year's stimulus and I
suspect we'll be paying more no matter who gets into office. Someone has
to pay for Bush's insane war.



It has nothing to do with me. Seriously ... think about it. How is an
average of an extra $1K per year going to help "95%" of the public?

Certainly doesn't matter where it counts. Give me a break!

Eisboch



Boater October 20th 08 11:36 PM

Man I loathe truck payments
 
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:10:41 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

However oughta be
something I could do with such a faithful old truck.


Planter in the front yard? I've seen that done with boats.



He could park it in your yard...it would partially block the view of the
stucco over foamboard house across the canal and give the canal rats a
place to live...

Boater October 20th 08 11:39 PM

Man I loathe truck payments
 
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...

Use the huge tax refund you'll be getting from McPalin.
Or the $1000 dollar tax decrease from Obama. Whoopie.

EIsboch


Easy for you to say. We didn't get a dime in last year's stimulus and I
suspect we'll be paying more no matter who gets into office. Someone has
to pay for Bush's insane war.



It has nothing to do with me. Seriously ... think about it. How is an
average of an extra $1K per year going to help "95%" of the public?

Certainly doesn't matter where it counts. Give me a break!

Eisboch



$1000 would keep my outboard boat in gas for the season, and buy some
bait, too!


JimH[_2_] October 20th 08 11:50 PM

Man I loathe truck payments
 
On Oct 20, 6:36*pm, Boater wrote:
Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 14:10:41 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:


However oughta be
something I could do with such a faithful old truck.


Planter in the front yard? *I've seen that done with boats.


He could park it in your yard...it would partially block the view of the
stucco over foamboard house across the canal and give the canal rats a
place to live...


EIFS construction..............what a disaster for homeowners and
insurance companies.

Richard Casady October 20th 08 11:51 PM

Man I loathe truck payments
 
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 13:34:34 -0700 (PDT), JimH
wrote:

There may be a couple of posters willing to unload a nice Ford Ranger in the
near future.
I know of one 2006 2 x 4 that has just over 26000 kilometers on the
odometer...what's that.....around 16000 miles?


ROTF!


A Ranger won't pull the cork out of a bottle of Dago Red.

Casady

Eisboch October 20th 08 11:56 PM

Man I loathe truck payments
 

"Boater" wrote in message
...



$1000 would keep my outboard boat in gas for the season, and buy some
bait, too!


So, that's how Obama is going to save America?

Please.

Eisboch



JimH[_2_] October 21st 08 12:26 AM

Man I loathe truck payments
 
On Oct 20, 6:56*pm, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message

...



$1000 would keep my outboard boat in gas for the season, and buy some
bait, too!


So, that's how Obama is going to save America?

Please.

Eisboch


Provide free health insurance for all.

Bigger govt.

Lower taxes for 95% of Americans.

Provide more govt. entitlement programs.

Let the terrorists know exactly when we will exit from the middle
east.

Bigger govt.

Raise taxes on those hard working *******s earning more than $250k and
give it to those not paying any taxes......spread the wealth

Does anyone remember the Jimmy Carter years.......inflation, mortgage
rates, gas lines?

'nuff said. ;-)

JohnH[_3_] October 21st 08 12:27 AM

Man I loathe truck payments
 
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 18:35:30 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"Boater" wrote in message
...
Eisboch wrote:
"Boater" wrote in message
...


Use the huge tax refund you'll be getting from McPalin.

Or the $1000 dollar tax decrease from Obama. Whoopie.

EIsboch



Easy for you to say. We didn't get a dime in last year's stimulus and I
suspect we'll be paying more no matter who gets into office. Someone has
to pay for Bush's insane war.



It has nothing to do with me. Seriously ... think about it. How is an
average of an extra $1K per year going to help "95%" of the public?

Certainly doesn't matter where it counts. Give me a break!

Eisboch


Most of the Obama voters have no realization of how little $1000 will
affect their lifestyle. But, if it'll put a new TV on the floor, it's well
worth a vote!
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]

JohnH[_3_] October 21st 08 12:28 AM

Man I loathe truck payments
 
..
--
A Harry Krause truism:

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Narcissistic Hypocrite]


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