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On Oct 22, 9:39*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message ... jim wrote: Even my car can and has towed 2300 lbs. It's not a big deal. Ask Don how he stops the little Ranger 4x2 and the 2300 lb load. I would bet that the little itty bitty transmission in that little Ranger 4x2 is about at it's end of life. I don't know about that. *The Ranger is a tough little truck for it's size and should handle that weight without any problems. It uses a Mazda transmission that has been well proven. My son in law had a Ranger, I'm guessing '95 or so, had the Mazda four cylinder with manual tranny. Well, the tranny started leaking pretty badly out of the rear seal, and he had a friend that put a junkyard tranny in it. He filled it with gear oil, like most manual trannys. Well, when everything cooled down on the truck at night, the next morning it was very hard to shift. We did a little research, lo and behold in the shop manual, there it was. The manual tranny used ATF fluid as a lubricant! |
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On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:39:11 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
I don't know about that. The Ranger is a tough little truck for it's size and should handle that weight without any problems. It uses a Mazda transmission that has been well proven. Back when we had two horsies, a mule (which was incredibly smarter than both the horsies put together), goats, sheep and a freakin' cow when we were living up at the farmhouse, I had a 4 cylinder w/automatic 4X4 Ranger - I beat the snot out of that truck hauling hay, wood, feed, gravel, sand for bedding - you name it. On more than one occasion (when I was still an active hunter) through the woods to drag out a deer or a brace of resident goose. I beat it up so bad, that at 180K miles I sold it to one of the local farmers for $150. :) You know that truck is still running on it's original engine and tranny? It's 14 years old and still bouncing around pastures chasing heifers and hauling bales of hay and silage out to the feed lots. It's nothing but a flat bed and cab now - no fenders even the last time I saw it, smokes like hell, but it still runs. |
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On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:45:09 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 09:01:34 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: If you like Fords (as I do), you might want to try out a gasser F-250 before spending the extra bucks for the diesel. Yeah - I'm pretty much a Ford guy. Well, I can't do anything about it now - another couple of weeks maybe. I do know they are getting desperate - maybe it's time to go looking at a new truck. You can try mine out if you want. Bring your boat and you can compare. I will. Thanks. |
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wrote in message ... My son in law had a Ranger, I'm guessing '95 or so, had the Mazda four cylinder with manual tranny. Well, the tranny started leaking pretty badly out of the rear seal, and he had a friend that put a junkyard tranny in it. He filled it with gear oil, like most manual trannys. Well, when everything cooled down on the truck at night, the next morning it was very hard to shift. We did a little research, lo and behold in the shop manual, there it was. The manual tranny used ATF fluid as a lubricant! --------------------------------------- I had the same experience with an '87 Ranger, except it was done by Jiffy-Lube. They did their typical sales routine and recommended changing the transmission gear oil. I stupidly agreed. The high school kid working there after school drained out the ATF and filled it back up with 90 weight gear oil. The next morning I couldn't put it in any gear until mid afternoon when the temperature warmed up. Eisboch |
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"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 02:27:52 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "Don White" wrote in message ... Even my little Ranger 4x2 had a tow mode button in the auto transmission lever. I used it all the way on my 5000 kilometer round trip towing a 2330 lb load last year. Ford, GM and Chrysler used to have auto transmissions in their full sized, heavy duty trucks (250 and 2500 series and up) that had a button to simply disengage overdrive for towing purposes. That wasn't ideal, but it helped. Now-a-days GM uses the Allison transmission in their 2500 series. Beautiful transmission for towing or hauling a heavy rig. Ford came out with it's "Torqueshift" transmission that acts very similarly to the Allison. Both do more than simply disengaging overdrive. They both change the shiftpoints, holding the vehicle in gears longer under heavy load and provide significant engine braking when slowing down. Ford's transmission uses a different gear set on downshifts than it does on upshifts. When towing, these transmissions make the vehicles much more safe and controllable and also reduce strain on the engines. Let me tell you - that is a BIG difference between the heavier duty pickups and the POS F-150 that I bought. BIG difference. My truck is a nice truck - all leather, options up the wazoo but it just doesn't tow for crap. Even with the 5.4. I've revised my opinion - if your going to tow anything over 2,500 lbs, step up to the 3/4 or 1 ton class pickup. Once I get back in decent shape, I'm looking for a good used F-250 diesel to tow my boats with. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. :) I am finding that the F-250 Superduty with the same engine you have (the 5.4L) is more than adequate for towing, but I think it is more due to the TorqueShift transmission. The 5.4L is not a powerhouse like the diesel I had, but you don't need it. The transmission in tow/haul mode picks the correct gear, holds it as required under load, and makes towing a breeze. In other words, it acts like a truck. It does not prevent going into overdrive, although it rarely shifts into OD when towing, unless on the straight and level and above about 65 mph. I love how it downshifts through the gears when slowing down, very much like the Allison transmission. If you like Fords (as I do), you might want to try out a gasser F-250 before spending the extra bucks for the diesel. The F-150's, last I knew, do not come with the TorqueShift transmission. They have a "tow/haul/ mode, but it's not the same. I believe the light duty F-150 trucks use the standard, 5 speed electronically controlled transmission, the same one used in Mrs. E's Navigator. My son has an '08 F-150. Both his truck and Mrs. E's '08 Navigator drive and shift the same way .... more like a car. Works fine, but for towing the TS is better. Another benefit is this: Ford originally designed the TorqueShift transmission for use in their diesel powered pickups in order to handle the additional low end torque. They worked so well, Ford decided to also use them in the rest of the SuperDuty series, including the gas engines. It means you have a very durable and heavy duty transmission .... an important consideration if you intend to tow much. Eisboch Ford's new transmission was designed by Allison. It's not a copy but a brand new 5 speed that Ford has all the rights to. I drove one that was behind a V10. What a racket that combo made. Shifted nice though. |
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"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 08:18:58 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... BTW, that donation you made to the GOP...how do you think it looks on Sarah's back as part of $150,000 wardrobe you helped pay for...I guess it does mean you *can* put lipstick on a pig, eh? Right. It's just not fair. Obama has to pay for his own $1,400 suits. Helps to connect to the middle class, you know. Of course, his income from two "memoirs" pay for them. Or do they? BTW .... how do you write two memoirs as a young man who really hasn't done anything of importance yet? He didn't write them. Ayers did. :) Ayers wrote the first one. The second one either Obama wrote or a different ghost writer. 2nd one, not as well written and different style. |
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"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in message ... On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 02:27:52 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "Don White" wrote in message .. . Even my little Ranger 4x2 had a tow mode button in the auto transmission lever. I used it all the way on my 5000 kilometer round trip towing a 2330 lb load last year. Ford, GM and Chrysler used to have auto transmissions in their full sized, heavy duty trucks (250 and 2500 series and up) that had a button to simply disengage overdrive for towing purposes. That wasn't ideal, but it helped. Now-a-days GM uses the Allison transmission in their 2500 series. Beautiful transmission for towing or hauling a heavy rig. Ford came out with it's "Torqueshift" transmission that acts very similarly to the Allison. Both do more than simply disengaging overdrive. They both change the shiftpoints, holding the vehicle in gears longer under heavy load and provide significant engine braking when slowing down. Ford's transmission uses a different gear set on downshifts than it does on upshifts. When towing, these transmissions make the vehicles much more safe and controllable and also reduce strain on the engines. Let me tell you - that is a BIG difference between the heavier duty pickups and the POS F-150 that I bought. BIG difference. My truck is a nice truck - all leather, options up the wazoo but it just doesn't tow for crap. Even with the 5.4. I've revised my opinion - if your going to tow anything over 2,500 lbs, step up to the 3/4 or 1 ton class pickup. Once I get back in decent shape, I'm looking for a good used F-250 diesel to tow my boats with. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. :) I am finding that the F-250 Superduty with the same engine you have (the 5.4L) is more than adequate for towing, but I think it is more due to the TorqueShift transmission. The 5.4L is not a powerhouse like the diesel I had, but you don't need it. The transmission in tow/haul mode picks the correct gear, holds it as required under load, and makes towing a breeze. In other words, it acts like a truck. It does not prevent going into overdrive, although it rarely shifts into OD when towing, unless on the straight and level and above about 65 mph. I love how it downshifts through the gears when slowing down, very much like the Allison transmission. If you like Fords (as I do), you might want to try out a gasser F-250 before spending the extra bucks for the diesel. The F-150's, last I knew, do not come with the TorqueShift transmission. They have a "tow/haul/ mode, but it's not the same. I believe the light duty F-150 trucks use the standard, 5 speed electronically controlled transmission, the same one used in Mrs. E's Navigator. My son has an '08 F-150. Both his truck and Mrs. E's '08 Navigator drive and shift the same way .... more like a car. Works fine, but for towing the TS is better. Another benefit is this: Ford originally designed the TorqueShift transmission for use in their diesel powered pickups in order to handle the additional low end torque. They worked so well, Ford decided to also use them in the rest of the SuperDuty series, including the gas engines. It means you have a very durable and heavy duty transmission .... an important consideration if you intend to tow much. Eisboch They must of improved the 5.4L from the 1999 Expedition I had. Dang gas hog, without a lot of mountain tow power. Most milage I got was 16.5 returning from Los Angeles on I-5 and lots of slow traffic. Do not think I ever got over 65 mph in a 350 mile trip. My Duramax gets about the same mileage towing at 55 that the Expedition got in normal freeway driving. About 15.5 mpg. Just returned from a trip to Burney, Calif last Thursday. Towing boat (4400#), and the popup slide in camper (1400#) and going over some 3000' hills, I got 13 mpg for the trip. |
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"Jim" wrote in message . com... Ford's new transmission was designed by Allison. It's not a copy but a brand new 5 speed that Ford has all the rights to. I drove one that was behind a V10. What a racket that combo made. Shifted nice though. Never knew that. Having had both, no wonder my impression was that the Ford transmission behaved very similarly to the Allison. Eisboch |
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message m... They must of improved the 5.4L from the 1999 Expedition I had. Dang gas hog, without a lot of mountain tow power. Most milage I got was 16.5 returning from Los Angeles on I-5 and lots of slow traffic. Do not think I ever got over 65 mph in a 350 mile trip. My Duramax gets about the same mileage towing at 55 that the Expedition got in normal freeway driving. About 15.5 mpg. Just returned from a trip to Burney, Calif last Thursday. Towing boat (4400#), and the popup slide in camper (1400#) and going over some 3000' hills, I got 13 mpg for the trip. The 5.4 is an old engine design, but is pretty bullet proof. It's also been improved upon since then. My wife had an early Navigator (2000) that, in addition to a horrible suspension system, had a 5.4L that couldn't get out of it's own way. She currently has an '08 with the same engine, but it is reasonably peppy, having significantly more horsepower than the earlier one. They have vastly improved the suspension system on the Navigator also. It's actually very comfortable to drive. I think the Navigator's 5.4L is a higher output (horsepower wise) version at, I think, 340 hp. My truck is only rated at 300 hp. Eisboch |
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"BAR" wrote in message ... Ask Don how he stops the little Ranger 4x2 and the 2300 lb load. I would bet that the little itty bitty transmission in that little Ranger 4x2 is about at it's end of life. I apply the brakes as needed. After the big trip I noticed a burnt smell in the transmission fluid so I took it directly to the dealer to have the transmission drained & flushed. New fluid was added and all is right. It had less than 10K miles at that time. I blame the overloading on the trailer suspension collapsing, causing the tires to wear right through the heavy steel fenders. |
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Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... BTW, that donation you made to the GOP...how do you think it looks on Sarah's back as part of $150,000 wardrobe you helped pay for...I guess it does mean you *can* put lipstick on a pig, eh? Right. It's just not fair. Obama has to pay for his own $1,400 suits. Helps to connect to the middle class, you know. Of course, his income from two "memoirs" pay for them. Or do they? BTW .... how do you write two memoirs as a young man who really hasn't done anything of importance yet? Eisboch In your mind, perhaps, he's not done anything of importance. He's had a remarkable life so far. I don't know what Obama pays for his suits, but they're nothing special. He might be a bit hard to fit because of his height and lack of avoirdupois, though. A $1000 is about average for a decent made to order man's business suit these days, by the way. I wore one yesterday for a meeting downtown. Boy, was I surprised...right after Labor Day, the client changed its dress code to "business casual" except for board meetings and meetings with "new investors." I was the only one there wearing a tie...but not for long. $1000 suits, $600 bicycles, $???? mystery 2 wheelers. Sheet. Hairbrain is spending down so that Nobama can't tax it away from him. Good strategy. |
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"JohnH" wrote in message ... On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:29:20 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "JohnH" wrote in message . .. On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:38:45 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "JohnH" wrote in message m... On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:27:06 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: With all due respect, what you are missing is a vehicle designed to tow something. You don't want to be in overdrive while towing. An automatic, designed for towing applications, will figure it out for you. Anyway, the 4Runner may be fine for short distance and light load occasional towing, but not for a travel trailer camper. JohnH just bought a camper. Even though his camper/trailer is light-weight, the 4Runner isn't an ideal tow vehicle for it. The problem is the wind resistance, not the weight, and I guarantee that is what he is complaining about. The 4Runner is a very nice, very light duty vehicle. It's not designed to pull high area resistance trailers down the interstate. Tried to tell him, but he won't listen, so he has to learn for himself. A manual transmission will do zip for him. Eisboch Oh horse puckey. The 4Runner does a great job of towing a trailer which is about half its towing capacity. It wants to downshift going uphill if I'm in overdrive. That may be due to wind resistance. But isn't that what you are complaining about? It should shift out of overdrive. You shouldn't be in overdrive climbing a hill and pulling the trailer anyway. The overdrive gear is wimpy to begin with, plus you are lugging the engine. That's what tow/haul is all about in a tow vehicle automatic. Ideally, you should be able to lock overdrive out or, use tow/haul, if equipped. Yes! I know what I *should* do, but that isn't what I *want* to do. Like I say, if I leave it in 4th, not overdrive, it does fine. That's what the book says to do. If it makes you feel better, my F-250 Superduty, rated to tow twice or more the weight of your 4runner automatically shifts out of overdrive and sometimes unlocks the converter pulling an empty, 3000 lb GVW Haulmark trailer that probably weighs less than 1000 lbs empty. It's the frontal area wind resistance that causes the downshifts. Tow/Haul mode prevents the transmission from "hunting". 4th gear and staying out of cruise control does that for me. I should have held out for your van. No, no, I'm happy with what I've got. We're taking our friends from Holland over to West Virginia for some camping next week. We'll be staying at the north end of the Monongahela National Forest. Absolutely beautiful country. Eisboch Need someone to show you how to drive that 4Runner? Even my little Ranger 4x2 had a tow mode button in the auto transmission lever. I used it all the way on my 5000 kilometer round trip towing a 2330 lb load last year. No, Donnie. If I need help, I've got Harry very close by. He is an expert, in case you didn't realize it. -- That's who I was going to suggest...you couldn't afford my rates...military officers pension or not. ;-) |
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On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:55:25 -0300, "Don White"
wrote: "JohnH" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:29:20 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:38:45 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "JohnH" wrote in message om... On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:27:06 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: With all due respect, what you are missing is a vehicle designed to tow something. You don't want to be in overdrive while towing. An automatic, designed for towing applications, will figure it out for you. Anyway, the 4Runner may be fine for short distance and light load occasional towing, but not for a travel trailer camper. JohnH just bought a camper. Even though his camper/trailer is light-weight, the 4Runner isn't an ideal tow vehicle for it. The problem is the wind resistance, not the weight, and I guarantee that is what he is complaining about. The 4Runner is a very nice, very light duty vehicle. It's not designed to pull high area resistance trailers down the interstate. Tried to tell him, but he won't listen, so he has to learn for himself. A manual transmission will do zip for him. Eisboch Oh horse puckey. The 4Runner does a great job of towing a trailer which is about half its towing capacity. It wants to downshift going uphill if I'm in overdrive. That may be due to wind resistance. But isn't that what you are complaining about? It should shift out of overdrive. You shouldn't be in overdrive climbing a hill and pulling the trailer anyway. The overdrive gear is wimpy to begin with, plus you are lugging the engine. That's what tow/haul is all about in a tow vehicle automatic. Ideally, you should be able to lock overdrive out or, use tow/haul, if equipped. Yes! I know what I *should* do, but that isn't what I *want* to do. Like I say, if I leave it in 4th, not overdrive, it does fine. That's what the book says to do. If it makes you feel better, my F-250 Superduty, rated to tow twice or more the weight of your 4runner automatically shifts out of overdrive and sometimes unlocks the converter pulling an empty, 3000 lb GVW Haulmark trailer that probably weighs less than 1000 lbs empty. It's the frontal area wind resistance that causes the downshifts. Tow/Haul mode prevents the transmission from "hunting". 4th gear and staying out of cruise control does that for me. I should have held out for your van. No, no, I'm happy with what I've got. We're taking our friends from Holland over to West Virginia for some camping next week. We'll be staying at the north end of the Monongahela National Forest. Absolutely beautiful country. Eisboch Need someone to show you how to drive that 4Runner? Even my little Ranger 4x2 had a tow mode button in the auto transmission lever. I used it all the way on my 5000 kilometer round trip towing a 2330 lb load last year. No, Donnie. If I need help, I've got Harry very close by. He is an expert, in case you didn't realize it. -- That's who I was going to suggest...you couldn't afford my rates...military officers pension or not. ;-) Too funny. Just another thread showing that JohnH does not have a clue. |
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Don White wrote:
"BAR" wrote in message ... Ask Don how he stops the little Ranger 4x2 and the 2300 lb load. I would bet that the little itty bitty transmission in that little Ranger 4x2 is about at it's end of life. I apply the brakes as needed. After the big trip I noticed a burnt smell in the transmission fluid so I took it directly to the dealer to have the transmission drained & flushed. New fluid was added and all is right. It had less than 10K miles at that time. I blame the overloading on the trailer suspension collapsing, causing the tires to wear right through the heavy steel fenders. Your rubber tires wore through your "heavy steel fenders"? Sure, moron. WAFM |
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On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:40:04 -0400, DK
wrote: It might be true. He's 6'3" with a 30" inseam. That would require a custom suit. As for the meeting - pure bull****. WAFA. Went to a job interview once and rushing to make the train, put my overcoat on over my shirt, forgetting my suit coat. Didn't realize it until I was on the train. This was when some "consultants" were expected to wear 3-pieces. Got the job anyway. I told one jomoca account manager who suggested I get a 3-piece, "Sure, if I can expense it." Never had one. My wife got all my suits from rummage stores for 5 bucks. One new Brooks Brothers she paid $20 for. Of course that's me. I can understand others not wanting to possibly wear the clothing of the deceased. I just figured the prev owners gained weight and the suits wouldn't fit any more. Doesn't matter. I did the suits proud. And I gots money for a boat. --Vic |
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"Vic Smith" wrote in message ... Went to a job interview once and rushing to make the train, put my overcoat on over my shirt, forgetting my suit coat. Didn't realize it until I was on the train. This was when some "consultants" were expected to wear 3-pieces. Got the job anyway. I told one jomoca account manager who suggested I get a 3-piece, "Sure, if I can expense it." Never had one. My wife got all my suits from rummage stores for 5 bucks. One new Brooks Brothers she paid $20 for. Of course that's me. I can understand others not wanting to possibly wear the clothing of the deceased. I just figured the prev owners gained weight and the suits wouldn't fit any more. Doesn't matter. I did the suits proud. And I gots money for a boat. --Vic When I stopped working I either gave or threw every business suit and tie I had away. I told everyone in my family, young and old, that if anyone of them planned on getting married or dying, don't bother inviting me to the ceremonies, because I won't wear a suit. Did go to a wedding though .... decent pants, shoes and a shirt. No suit. No tie. Eisboch |
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On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:36:30 GMT, JohnH wrote:
Good story, too. You've made me rethink the manual transmission idea. No wonder the Army went to automatic transmissions years ago. Almost all tractor manufacturers now have shiftless hydrostatic torque drive or automatic transmissions - manuals with clutches are few and far between. I saw a new John Deere 9630T a few weeks back - 525 hp monster that Chapman Farms bought for their cropping operation in New Jersey and Pennsylvania - automatic. http://www.deere.com/servlet/ProdCat...R&pNbr=9630TRW Amazing. |
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On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:00:44 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
When I stopped working I either gave or threw every business suit and tie I had away. I told everyone in my family, young and old, that if anyone of them planned on getting married or dying, don't bother inviting me to the ceremonies, because I won't wear a suit. Did go to a wedding though .... decent pants, shoes and a shirt. No suit. No tie. Most of mine disappeared when work went to casual dress. Still have a couple, and wore one to a funereal last year. BTW, I worked with a black guy who didn't really care for our company going casual. Cultural thing about status. Personally, I always saw suits as a hassle. I sometimes wonder how badly the suit business got hit by most businesses going casual. There's a "Suit Factory" here that still advertises on TV, and when I see an ad it reminds of SNL skit about a store in a mall called "Scotch Boutique" which specialized in selling every damn variety of Scotch tape. Bill Murray was the stock boy. Funny as hell. There's a running joke with my wife when we see a new store open in the mall with a name like "Potato Skin Emporium." Well, not really a joke, more of a laugh as we estimate how long it will last. --Vic |
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Eisboch wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message ... Went to a job interview once and rushing to make the train, put my overcoat on over my shirt, forgetting my suit coat. Didn't realize it until I was on the train. This was when some "consultants" were expected to wear 3-pieces. Got the job anyway. I told one jomoca account manager who suggested I get a 3-piece, "Sure, if I can expense it." Never had one. My wife got all my suits from rummage stores for 5 bucks. One new Brooks Brothers she paid $20 for. Of course that's me. I can understand others not wanting to possibly wear the clothing of the deceased. I just figured the prev owners gained weight and the suits wouldn't fit any more. Doesn't matter. I did the suits proud. And I gots money for a boat. --Vic When I stopped working I either gave or threw every business suit and tie I had away. I told everyone in my family, young and old, that if anyone of them planned on getting married or dying, don't bother inviting me to the ceremonies, because I won't wear a suit. Did go to a wedding though .... decent pants, shoes and a shirt. No suit. No tie. Eisboch Well, I had two for-profit clients who were "formal dress." I learned this week that one of them is now "business casual" dress. The other remains business formal. I usually wear a suit when I visit my union clients at their offices because the guys I go to see are wearing suits. When I visit a jobsite, I dress like their business agent...workpants, workshirt, steel-toed shoes and a hardhat. I'm heading up to Boston right after the elections to meet with some business agents. Gosh...I hope I don't need to retain a wardrobe consultant! :) "Dress like the client..." |
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"DK" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... Ask Don how he stops the little Ranger 4x2 and the 2300 lb load. I would bet that the little itty bitty transmission in that little Ranger 4x2 is about at it's end of life. I apply the brakes as needed. After the big trip I noticed a burnt smell in the transmission fluid so I took it directly to the dealer to have the transmission drained & flushed. New fluid was added and all is right. It had less than 10K miles at that time. I blame the overloading on the trailer suspension collapsing, causing the tires to wear right through the heavy steel fenders. Your rubber tires wore through your "heavy steel fenders"? Sure, moron. WAFM Do you take stupid pills daily? I mean what I say and have the photos to prove it. I even have copies of the letters I sent to the Federal Dept of Transportation, the Motor Vehicle Departments of three Canadian provinces, plus the Nova Scotia Better Business Bureau after the local backyard boat trailer manufacturer refused to fix the damage |
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"JimH" wrote in message ... On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:55:25 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "JohnH" wrote in message . .. On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:29:20 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "JohnH" wrote in message m... On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:38:45 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "JohnH" wrote in message news:b6ssf4p4qrbftjb01bl66q5okujf0reop2@4ax. com... On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:27:06 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: With all due respect, what you are missing is a vehicle designed to tow something. You don't want to be in overdrive while towing. An automatic, designed for towing applications, will figure it out for you. Anyway, the 4Runner may be fine for short distance and light load occasional towing, but not for a travel trailer camper. JohnH just bought a camper. Even though his camper/trailer is light-weight, the 4Runner isn't an ideal tow vehicle for it. The problem is the wind resistance, not the weight, and I guarantee that is what he is complaining about. The 4Runner is a very nice, very light duty vehicle. It's not designed to pull high area resistance trailers down the interstate. Tried to tell him, but he won't listen, so he has to learn for himself. A manual transmission will do zip for him. Eisboch Oh horse puckey. The 4Runner does a great job of towing a trailer which is about half its towing capacity. It wants to downshift going uphill if I'm in overdrive. That may be due to wind resistance. But isn't that what you are complaining about? It should shift out of overdrive. You shouldn't be in overdrive climbing a hill and pulling the trailer anyway. The overdrive gear is wimpy to begin with, plus you are lugging the engine. That's what tow/haul is all about in a tow vehicle automatic. Ideally, you should be able to lock overdrive out or, use tow/haul, if equipped. Yes! I know what I *should* do, but that isn't what I *want* to do. Like I say, if I leave it in 4th, not overdrive, it does fine. That's what the book says to do. If it makes you feel better, my F-250 Superduty, rated to tow twice or more the weight of your 4runner automatically shifts out of overdrive and sometimes unlocks the converter pulling an empty, 3000 lb GVW Haulmark trailer that probably weighs less than 1000 lbs empty. It's the frontal area wind resistance that causes the downshifts. Tow/Haul mode prevents the transmission from "hunting". 4th gear and staying out of cruise control does that for me. I should have held out for your van. No, no, I'm happy with what I've got. We're taking our friends from Holland over to West Virginia for some camping next week. We'll be staying at the north end of the Monongahela National Forest. Absolutely beautiful country. Eisboch Need someone to show you how to drive that 4Runner? Even my little Ranger 4x2 had a tow mode button in the auto transmission lever. I used it all the way on my 5000 kilometer round trip towing a 2330 lb load last year. No, Donnie. If I need help, I've got Harry very close by. He is an expert, in case you didn't realize it. -- That's who I was going to suggest...you couldn't afford my rates...military officers pension or not. ;-) Too funny. Just another thread showing that JohnH does not have a clue. Johnny just likes to argue for arguments sake. |
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On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:00:44 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message .. . Went to a job interview once and rushing to make the train, put my overcoat on over my shirt, forgetting my suit coat. Didn't realize it until I was on the train. This was when some "consultants" were expected to wear 3-pieces. Got the job anyway. I told one jomoca account manager who suggested I get a 3-piece, "Sure, if I can expense it." Never had one. My wife got all my suits from rummage stores for 5 bucks. One new Brooks Brothers she paid $20 for. Of course that's me. I can understand others not wanting to possibly wear the clothing of the deceased. I just figured the prev owners gained weight and the suits wouldn't fit any more. Doesn't matter. I did the suits proud. And I gots money for a boat. When I stopped working I either gave or threw every business suit and tie I had away. I told everyone in my family, young and old, that if anyone of them planned on getting married or dying, don't bother inviting me to the ceremonies, because I won't wear a suit. Did go to a wedding though .... decent pants, shoes and a shirt. No suit. No tie. Dude - even I have two suits, a couple of sports jackets and ties. Mrs. Wave makes me wear them to important things like weddings, furnerals, baby christenings, etc. You are one lucky guy. :) |
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On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:47:47 -0400, DK
wrote: Your rubber tires wore through your "heavy steel fenders"? Sure, moron. Vinyl audio recordings wear out diamond needles. Casady |
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On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:13:24 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote: There's a running joke with my wife when we see a new store open in the mall with a name like "Potato Skin Emporium." Well, not really a joke, more of a laugh as we estimate how long it will last. There is a place in Des Moines that seems to make a specialize in baked potatoes. I don't know what else they have, just seen the TV ad. Casady |
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On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 00:07:58 GMT, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote: On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:36:30 GMT, JohnH wrote: Good story, too. You've made me rethink the manual transmission idea. No wonder the Army went to automatic transmissions years ago. Almost all tractor manufacturers now have shiftless hydrostatic torque drive or automatic transmissions - manuals with clutches are few and far between. I saw a new John Deere 9630T a few weeks back - 525 hp monster that Chapman Farms bought for their cropping operation in New Jersey and Pennsylvania - automatic. http://www.deere.com/servlet/ProdCat...R&pNbr=9630TRW Amazing. I never realized that tractors were made with automatics. It *is* amazing. -- A Harry Krause truism: "It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!" [A Narcissistic Hypocrite] |
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On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:05:05 -0400, JimH wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:55:25 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "JohnH" wrote in message . .. On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 23:29:20 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "JohnH" wrote in message m... On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:38:45 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "JohnH" wrote in message news:b6ssf4p4qrbftjb01bl66q5okujf0reop2@4ax. com... On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 17:27:06 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: With all due respect, what you are missing is a vehicle designed to tow something. You don't want to be in overdrive while towing. An automatic, designed for towing applications, will figure it out for you. Anyway, the 4Runner may be fine for short distance and light load occasional towing, but not for a travel trailer camper. JohnH just bought a camper. Even though his camper/trailer is light-weight, the 4Runner isn't an ideal tow vehicle for it. The problem is the wind resistance, not the weight, and I guarantee that is what he is complaining about. The 4Runner is a very nice, very light duty vehicle. It's not designed to pull high area resistance trailers down the interstate. Tried to tell him, but he won't listen, so he has to learn for himself. A manual transmission will do zip for him. Eisboch Oh horse puckey. The 4Runner does a great job of towing a trailer which is about half its towing capacity. It wants to downshift going uphill if I'm in overdrive. That may be due to wind resistance. But isn't that what you are complaining about? It should shift out of overdrive. You shouldn't be in overdrive climbing a hill and pulling the trailer anyway. The overdrive gear is wimpy to begin with, plus you are lugging the engine. That's what tow/haul is all about in a tow vehicle automatic. Ideally, you should be able to lock overdrive out or, use tow/haul, if equipped. Yes! I know what I *should* do, but that isn't what I *want* to do. Like I say, if I leave it in 4th, not overdrive, it does fine. That's what the book says to do. If it makes you feel better, my F-250 Superduty, rated to tow twice or more the weight of your 4runner automatically shifts out of overdrive and sometimes unlocks the converter pulling an empty, 3000 lb GVW Haulmark trailer that probably weighs less than 1000 lbs empty. It's the frontal area wind resistance that causes the downshifts. Tow/Haul mode prevents the transmission from "hunting". 4th gear and staying out of cruise control does that for me. I should have held out for your van. No, no, I'm happy with what I've got. We're taking our friends from Holland over to West Virginia for some camping next week. We'll be staying at the north end of the Monongahela National Forest. Absolutely beautiful country. Eisboch Need someone to show you how to drive that 4Runner? Even my little Ranger 4x2 had a tow mode button in the auto transmission lever. I used it all the way on my 5000 kilometer round trip towing a 2330 lb load last year. No, Donnie. If I need help, I've got Harry very close by. He is an expert, in case you didn't realize it. -- That's who I was going to suggest...you couldn't afford my rates...military officers pension or not. ;-) Too funny. Just another thread showing that JohnH does not have a clue. But a *decent* thread, until the attacks started. I am not afraid to admit that I'm not an expert in all areas, like you, Donnie, and Harry are. I wish I were, but I'm not. -- A Harry Krause truism: "It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!" [A Narcissistic Hypocrite] |
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On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:40:04 -0400, DK wrote:
wrote: On Oct 22, 8:34 am, Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... BTW, that donation you made to the GOP...how do you think it looks on Sarah's back as part of $150,000 wardrobe you helped pay for...I guess it does mean you *can* put lipstick on a pig, eh? Right. It's just not fair. Obama has to pay for his own $1,400 suits. Helps to connect to the middle class, you know. Of course, his income from two "memoirs" pay for them. Or do they? BTW .... how do you write two memoirs as a young man who really hasn't done anything of importance yet? Eisboch In your mind, perhaps, he's not done anything of importance. He's had a remarkable life so far. I don't know what Obama pays for his suits, but they're nothing special. He might be a bit hard to fit because of his height and lack of avoirdupois, though. A $1000 is about average for a decent made to order man's business suit these days, by the way. I wore one yesterday for a meeting downtown. Boy, was I surprised...right after Labor Day, the client changed its dress code to "business casual" except for board meetings and meetings with "new investors." I was the only one there wearing a tie...but not for long.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, sure, we believe you. It might be true. He's 6'3" with a 30" inseam. That would require a custom suit. As for the meeting - pure bull****. WAFA. 6'3" with a 30" inseam means some short, squat legs. I'm 6'3.5" and I wear a 33" inseam. But, since most casual clothes don't come in a 33", I have to go to 34", or wear them 'low slung' - which really drives the girls crazy! -- A Harry Krause truism: "It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!" [A Narcissistic Hypocrite] |
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On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:18:45 -0400, Boater wrote:
Eisboch wrote: "Vic Smith" wrote in message ... Went to a job interview once and rushing to make the train, put my overcoat on over my shirt, forgetting my suit coat. Didn't realize it until I was on the train. This was when some "consultants" were expected to wear 3-pieces. Got the job anyway. I told one jomoca account manager who suggested I get a 3-piece, "Sure, if I can expense it." Never had one. My wife got all my suits from rummage stores for 5 bucks. One new Brooks Brothers she paid $20 for. Of course that's me. I can understand others not wanting to possibly wear the clothing of the deceased. I just figured the prev owners gained weight and the suits wouldn't fit any more. Doesn't matter. I did the suits proud. And I gots money for a boat. --Vic When I stopped working I either gave or threw every business suit and tie I had away. I told everyone in my family, young and old, that if anyone of them planned on getting married or dying, don't bother inviting me to the ceremonies, because I won't wear a suit. Did go to a wedding though .... decent pants, shoes and a shirt. No suit. No tie. Eisboch Well, I had two for-profit clients who were "formal dress." I learned this week that one of them is now "business casual" dress. The other remains business formal. I usually wear a suit when I visit my union clients at their offices because the guys I go to see are wearing suits. When I visit a jobsite, I dress like their business agent...workpants, workshirt, steel-toed shoes and a hardhat. I'm heading up to Boston right after the elections to meet with some business agents. Gosh...I hope I don't need to retain a wardrobe consultant! :) "Dress like the client..." Wow! -- A Harry Krause truism: "It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!" [A Narcissistic Hypocrite] |
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On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:40:38 GMT, JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:18:45 -0400, Boater wrote: I'm heading up to Boston right after the elections to meet with some business agents. Gosh...I hope I don't need to retain a wardrobe consultant! :) "Dress like the client..." Wow! You ever think that a suit is a civvies way of playing Captain? Sometimes I'd be in a meeting and think "Why the hell is everybody hear wearing a uniform? I thought I was out of the service." --Vic |
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Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:40:38 GMT, JohnH wrote: On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:18:45 -0400, Boater wrote: I'm heading up to Boston right after the elections to meet with some business agents. Gosh...I hope I don't need to retain a wardrobe consultant! :) "Dress like the client..." Wow! You ever think that a suit is a civvies way of playing Captain? Sometimes I'd be in a meeting and think "Why the hell is everybody hear wearing a uniform? I thought I was out of the service." --Vic I hate neckties. :) |
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On Oct 23, 7:48*am, Boater wrote:
JohnH wrote: On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:40:04 -0400, DK wrote: wrote: On Oct 22, 8:34 am, Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... BTW, that donation you made to the GOP...how do you think it looks on Sarah's back as part of $150,000 wardrobe you helped pay for...I guess it does mean you *can* put lipstick on a pig, eh? Right. *It's just not fair. * Obama has to pay for his own *$1,400 suits. Helps to connect to the middle class, you know. Of course, his income from two "memoirs" *pay for them. *Or do they? BTW .... how do you write two memoirs as a young man who really hasn't done anything of importance yet? Eisboch In your mind, perhaps, he's not done anything of importance. He's had a remarkable life so far. I don't know what Obama pays for his suits, but they're nothing special. * He might be a bit hard to fit because of his height and lack of avoirdupois, though. A $1000 is about average for a decent made to order man's business suit these days, by the way. I wore one yesterday for a meeting downtown. Boy, was I surprised...right after Labor Day, the client changed its dress code to "business casual" except for board meetings and meetings with "new investors." I was the only one there wearing a tie...but not for long.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, sure, we believe you. It might be true. *He's 6'3" with a 30" inseam. *That would require a custom suit. *As for the meeting - pure bull****. *WAFA. 6'3" with a 30" inseam means some short, squat legs. I'm 6'3.5" and I wear a 33" inseam. But, since most casual clothes don't come in a 33", I have to go to 34", or wear them 'low slung' - which really drives the girls crazy! I'm about 6'2" with a 32" inseam. I don't have any problems finding trousers with my inseam length.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - But it must be hell finding them with a huge waist, fat boy. |
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"JohnH" wrote in message ... But a *decent* thread, until the attacks started. I am not afraid to admit that I'm not an expert in all areas, like you, Donnie, and Harry are. I wish I were, but I'm not. -- We're here to help... if you could just loose that attitude. |
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Don White wrote:
"DK" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: "BAR" wrote in message ... Ask Don how he stops the little Ranger 4x2 and the 2300 lb load. I would bet that the little itty bitty transmission in that little Ranger 4x2 is about at it's end of life. I apply the brakes as needed. After the big trip I noticed a burnt smell in the transmission fluid so I took it directly to the dealer to have the transmission drained & flushed. New fluid was added and all is right. It had less than 10K miles at that time. I blame the overloading on the trailer suspension collapsing, causing the tires to wear right through the heavy steel fenders. Your rubber tires wore through your "heavy steel fenders"? Sure, moron. WAFM Do you take stupid pills daily? I mean what I say and have the photos to prove it. I even have copies of the letters I sent to the Federal Dept of Transportation, the Motor Vehicle Departments of three Canadian provinces, plus the Nova Scotia Better Business Bureau after the local backyard boat trailer manufacturer refused to fix the damage You can get stupid pills cheaply if you buy them from Canadian pharmacies. |
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Boater wrote:
JohnH wrote: On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:40:04 -0400, DK wrote: wrote: On Oct 22, 8:34 am, Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... BTW, that donation you made to the GOP...how do you think it looks on Sarah's back as part of $150,000 wardrobe you helped pay for...I guess it does mean you *can* put lipstick on a pig, eh? Right. It's just not fair. Obama has to pay for his own $1,400 suits. Helps to connect to the middle class, you know. Of course, his income from two "memoirs" pay for them. Or do they? BTW .... how do you write two memoirs as a young man who really hasn't done anything of importance yet? Eisboch In your mind, perhaps, he's not done anything of importance. He's had a remarkable life so far. I don't know what Obama pays for his suits, but they're nothing special. He might be a bit hard to fit because of his height and lack of avoirdupois, though. A $1000 is about average for a decent made to order man's business suit these days, by the way. I wore one yesterday for a meeting downtown. Boy, was I surprised...right after Labor Day, the client changed its dress code to "business casual" except for board meetings and meetings with "new investors." I was the only one there wearing a tie...but not for long.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, sure, we believe you. It might be true. He's 6'3" with a 30" inseam. That would require a custom suit. As for the meeting - pure bull****. WAFA. 6'3" with a 30" inseam means some short, squat legs. I'm 6'3.5" and I wear a 33" inseam. But, since most casual clothes don't come in a 33", I have to go to 34", or wear them 'low slung' - which really drives the girls crazy! I'm about 6'2" with a 32" inseam. I don't have any problems finding trousers with my inseam length. I could have sworn you said in the past that you were taller than that. |
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On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:27:09 -0400, jim wrote:
Boater wrote: JohnH wrote: On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:40:04 -0400, DK wrote: wrote: On Oct 22, 8:34 am, Boater wrote: Eisboch wrote: "Boater" wrote in message ... BTW, that donation you made to the GOP...how do you think it looks on Sarah's back as part of $150,000 wardrobe you helped pay for...I guess it does mean you *can* put lipstick on a pig, eh? Right. It's just not fair. Obama has to pay for his own $1,400 suits. Helps to connect to the middle class, you know. Of course, his income from two "memoirs" pay for them. Or do they? BTW .... how do you write two memoirs as a young man who really hasn't done anything of importance yet? Eisboch In your mind, perhaps, he's not done anything of importance. He's had a remarkable life so far. I don't know what Obama pays for his suits, but they're nothing special. He might be a bit hard to fit because of his height and lack of avoirdupois, though. A $1000 is about average for a decent made to order man's business suit these days, by the way. I wore one yesterday for a meeting downtown. Boy, was I surprised...right after Labor Day, the client changed its dress code to "business casual" except for board meetings and meetings with "new investors." I was the only one there wearing a tie...but not for long.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Yeah, sure, we believe you. It might be true. He's 6'3" with a 30" inseam. That would require a custom suit. As for the meeting - pure bull****. WAFA. 6'3" with a 30" inseam means some short, squat legs. I'm 6'3.5" and I wear a 33" inseam. But, since most casual clothes don't come in a 33", I have to go to 34", or wear them 'low slung' - which really drives the girls crazy! I'm about 6'2" with a 32" inseam. I don't have any problems finding trousers with my inseam length. I could have sworn you said in the past that you were taller than that. He'd probably forgotten that I've stood next to him. -- A Harry Krause truism: "It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!" [A Narcissistic Hypocrite] |
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On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 06:52:12 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote: On Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:40:38 GMT, JohnH wrote: On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:18:45 -0400, Boater wrote: I'm heading up to Boston right after the elections to meet with some business agents. Gosh...I hope I don't need to retain a wardrobe consultant! :) "Dress like the client..." Wow! You ever think that a suit is a civvies way of playing Captain? Sometimes I'd be in a meeting and think "Why the hell is everybody hear wearing a uniform? I thought I was out of the service." --Vic Amen. -- A Harry Krause truism: "It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!" [A Narcissistic Hypocrite] |
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-- A Harry Krause truism: "It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!" [A Narcissistic Hypocrite] |
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On Oct 23, 4:57*am, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote: On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 20:00:44 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "Vic Smith" wrote in message .. . Went to a job interview once and rushing to make the train, put my overcoat on over my shirt, forgetting my suit coat. Didn't realize it until I was on the train. This was when some "consultants" were expected to wear 3-pieces. Got the job anyway. I told one jomoca account manager who suggested I get a 3-piece, "Sure, if I can expense it." Never had one. My wife got all my suits from rummage stores for 5 bucks. One new Brooks Brothers she paid $20 for. Of course that's me. *I can understand others not wanting to possibly wear the clothing of the deceased. *I just figured the prev owners gained weight and the suits wouldn't fit any more. Doesn't matter. *I did the suits proud. *And I gots money for a boat. When I stopped working I either gave or threw every business suit and tie I had away. I told everyone in my family, young and old, that if anyone of them planned on getting married or dying, don't bother inviting me to the ceremonies, because I won't wear a suit. Did go to a wedding though .... decent pants, shoes and a shirt. *No suit. No tie. Dude - even I have two suits, a couple of sports jackets and ties. Mrs. Wave makes me wear them to important things like weddings, furnerals, baby christenings, etc. You are one lucky guy. *:)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I have 4 nice suits probably 10 sport jackets about 20 dress shirts a good variety of Dockers and probably about 100 ties. |
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