"A Boater" wrote in message
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wf3h wrote:

On Sep 16, 5:18 am, Gunner Asch wrote:

On the other hand..Im a survivalist and have made plans many many
years ago to allow me to weather the crashing of the country, for
whatever reason.

ah...a survivalist. living in the idaho mountains, drooling on your
bib about plots to dilute the white race's gene stock

yeah, that explains alot.


Gunner's Ass is a survivalist? Hehehe. Well, that explains a lot of the
drool dripping down his chin...survival of the least fit.


He's in his own personal fantasy world. He thinks he's a successful
republican businessman who is living the American dream. The reality, he
lives in Taft, Calif., which is outside Bakersfield. It's one ugly place,
flat, desert-like, and nobody in their right mind ever wanted to live there.
It was a place you drove by when you went up interstate 5 from LA to
northern California. All that was there was oil wells and coyotes. He's
living a lower working class life, he's never going to get ahead, he has no
health insurance, he's already had one heart attack, and as for being a
survivalist, I give you odds that he doesn't even live four more years. So
despite his best laid plans to survive some Sci-Fi disaster fantasy in
reality he'll die in poverty leaving nothing behind but junk and his dream
of surviving will be nothing but that, a dream. Knowing what a moron he is
makes it a lot easier to completely dismiss his twisted and irrelevant
blather.

Hawke

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wf3h wrote:

On Sep 16, 5:18 am, Gunner Asch wrote:

On the other hand..Im a survivalist and have made plans many many
years ago to allow me to weather the crashing of the country, for
whatever reason.

ah...a survivalist. living in the idaho mountains, drooling on your
bib about plots to dilute the white race's gene stock

yeah, that explains alot.


Gunner's Ass is a survivalist? Hehehe. Well, that explains a lot of the
drool dripping down his chin...survival of the least fit.


He's in his own personal fantasy world. He thinks he's a successful
republican businessman who is living the American dream. The reality, he
lives in Taft, Calif., which is outside Bakersfield. It's one ugly place,
flat, desert-like, and nobody in their right mind ever wanted to live
there.
It was a place you drove by when you went up interstate 5 from LA to
northern California. All that was there was oil wells and coyotes. He's
living a lower working class life, he's never going to get ahead, he has
no
health insurance, he's already had one heart attack, and as for being a
survivalist, I give you odds that he doesn't even live four more years. So
despite his best laid plans to survive some Sci-Fi disaster fantasy in
reality he'll die in poverty leaving nothing behind but junk and his dream
of surviving will be nothing but that, a dream. Knowing what a moron he is
makes it a lot easier to completely dismiss his twisted and irrelevant
blather.

Hawke

Wow. I almost feel sorry for the guy. Broken dreams.

On Wed, 17 Sep 2008 23:29:41 -0700, "Roy Blankenship"
wrote:


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"A Boater" wrote in message
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wf3h wrote:

On Sep 16, 5:18 am, Gunner Asch wrote:

On the other hand..Im a survivalist and have made plans many many
years ago to allow me to weather the crashing of the country, for
whatever reason.

ah...a survivalist. living in the idaho mountains, drooling on your
bib about plots to dilute the white race's gene stock

yeah, that explains alot.


Gunner's Ass is a survivalist? Hehehe. Well, that explains a lot of the
drool dripping down his chin...survival of the least fit.


He's in his own personal fantasy world. He thinks he's a successful
republican businessman who is living the American dream. The reality, he
lives in Taft, Calif., which is outside Bakersfield. It's one ugly place,
flat, desert-like, and nobody in their right mind ever wanted to live
there.
It was a place you drove by when you went up interstate 5 from LA to
northern California. All that was there was oil wells and coyotes. He's
living a lower working class life, he's never going to get ahead, he has
no
health insurance, he's already had one heart attack, and as for being a
survivalist, I give you odds that he doesn't even live four more years. So
despite his best laid plans to survive some Sci-Fi disaster fantasy in
reality he'll die in poverty leaving nothing behind but junk and his dream
of surviving will be nothing but that, a dream. Knowing what a moron he is
makes it a lot easier to completely dismiss his twisted and irrelevant
blather.

Hawke

Wow. I almost feel sorry for the guy. Broken dreams.

Actually Roy..I live here intentionally. The place is fully paid off,
Ive got enough space to do pretty much what I want, the shop is
EXTREMELY well equipped, etc etc

I live in an area rich in cogeneration plants, oil infrastructure, and
surrounded by some of the most productive agriculture in the world.
Ive a very large circle of friends and aquaintences, in both that
area, including law enforcment and the city and county fathers.
Its a very Red area, where CCWs are common (unlike most of the rest of
California). The town itself is actually quite nice though its in a
bit of a depression, which is fine with me. Ive been there since
1983, and am quite comfortable there. Its my Home Base. A place to
retire, or hole up.

The parakeet of course has never been there, it being well over 25
miles off of I-5...so he really doesnt have a clue.

The town is backed up against the Temblor mountain range, being about
5 miles from the San Andres fault, good cattle grazing country, deer
hunting and about 1.5 hours from the Pacific ocean on good roads.
Several local lakes, the California aqueduct etc supply good fishing,
boating etc. Crime is very low, most households are well armed, we
have more CCW holders than law enforcement in the county. We kinda
like it that way.

It things turn to ****...Im not going to be without power...local
areas well served by cogeneration. Im not going to be without fuel,
several refineries in the area. Im not going to be without food, both
from my own crops, and from the surrounding area. I can easily barter
machining, welding, gunsmithing for food, fuel etc. I do it regularly
now..shrug. The two local machine shops borrow tooling etc from
me..G

Lots of horses in the area.

Its hot in the summer, but its high desert, not the Mojave. It doesnt
rain much, but there are many local wells, both public and private,
so water is not an issue.

We are far enough off the beaten path, that refugees from the LA area
will bypass us, and entry to the area is easily controlled. And will
be.

Ive got sufficient food, fuel, water, infrastructure laid in to keep
going in a total breakdown for up to 6 + months.
My security is pretty good, both in active and passive modes, plus
dogs etc. Being friends with a goodly number of the local law
enforcment adds some benefits as well.

When I lost my house in the '83 Coalinga Earthquake..I kept not only
my family sheltered, fed and watered, but virtually everyone on my
block as well. It took Fema etc nearly two weeks to get rolling, and
we were just hunky dorey.

I am self employed, indeed. And yes its feast or famine. And no,
unlike the Parakeet, I dont live in my moms basement and leech off
her. She is long dead..shrug. Someday the Parakeet will have to face
the outside world.

But Im doing ok, with more work coming in than I can handle most of
the time. Juggling it sometimes can be "interesting".

My health isnt all that bad. Ive got angina, havent had to take a
nitro in 3 yrs. But I AM almost 55, and have lead something of a hard
life, lots of dings, puckers, zippers on my old carcass, so its to be
expected. On the other hand, I can look down and still see my belt
buckle (the parakeet cant even see his feet...morbidly obese) and
while I cant run 3 miles anymore..I can walk/trot for days.

Ive never had a heart attack. But it did give me a warning, so Ive
changed my life style a bit, becoming less of a work a holic, eating
better etc.

If I die, my next of kin will be able to dispose of my assests and
while not be rich, will be comfortable. Its a shame the Parakeet has
so little knowlege of the Real world outside of his moms
basement....he is the sort to call a 57 Chevy...just an old car..a
junker. His ignorance is widely known, and laughed at because he
pontificates on things he is not only ignorant of, but incapable of
comprehending.

While he huddles in his chair, surrounded by rotting pizza boxes and
trash, in front of his computer, raging against the world from deep in
the heart of his Moms basement, Im puttering around in the machine
shop, or the welding shop, or simply sitting on the veranda, feet
propped up on the rail, cat in my lap, dogs at my feet, watching the
hummingbirds and noodling around on the banjo, or got one of the
sailboats out on a local lake, or the BMW scooter out on the winding
mountain roads.

Shrug..I guess we have different priorities, no? As to
surviving..shrug..no one knows if they are going to survive to
tommorow. All we can do is try to make plans, take steps etc to do
what we can for ourselves and our families in the event of an
emergency. Id be surprised if the Parakeet has a single fire
extinguisher in his home. Between the house, the shops etc..last
count I had 11. First aid kits, from simple to First Responder..and
the knowledge to use them. Id be surprised if the parakeet could
stand the sight of blood, let alone deliver a baby, or remove a hot
appendix. (Ive done both under extreme circumstances)

Shrug..let him feel smug and arrogant. Thats all he has. There is no
bottom or substance to him. I may or may not live to the average span
my family enjoys..the late 90s, but Ive LIVED and will continue to do
so.

On the other hand..I fully expect to bulldoze the Parakeets bloated
corpse into a mass grave, if Bad Things ever happen. Too bad its
likely he wont be recognizable, as Id like to **** on him in contempt
as he goes into the hole.

Gunner

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"Hawke" wrote in message
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wf3h wrote:

On Sep 16, 5:18 am, Gunner Asch wrote:

On the other hand..Im a survivalist and have made plans many many
years ago to allow me to weather the crashing of the country, for
whatever reason.

ah...a survivalist. living in the idaho mountains, drooling on your
bib about plots to dilute the white race's gene stock

yeah, that explains alot.


Gunner's Ass is a survivalist? Hehehe. Well, that explains a lot of
the
drool dripping down his chin...survival of the least fit.


He's in his own personal fantasy world. He thinks he's a successful
republican businessman who is living the American dream. The reality, he
lives in Taft, Calif., which is outside Bakersfield. It's one ugly
place,
flat, desert-like, and nobody in their right mind ever wanted to live
there.
It was a place you drove by when you went up interstate 5 from LA to
northern California. All that was there was oil wells and coyotes. He's
living a lower working class life, he's never going to get ahead, he has
no
health insurance, he's already had one heart attack, and as for being a
survivalist, I give you odds that he doesn't even live four more years.
So
despite his best laid plans to survive some Sci-Fi disaster fantasy in
reality he'll die in poverty leaving nothing behind but junk and his
dream
of surviving will be nothing but that, a dream. Knowing what a moron he
is
makes it a lot easier to completely dismiss his twisted and irrelevant
blather.

Hawke

Wow. I almost feel sorry for the guy. Broken dreams.


I would too except that in addition to all that he's a prick.

Hawke

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"Hawke" wrote in message
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"A Boater" wrote in message
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wf3h wrote:

On Sep 16, 5:18 am, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On the other hand..Im a survivalist and have made plans many many
years ago to allow me to weather the crashing of the country, for
whatever reason.

ah...a survivalist. living in the idaho mountains, drooling on
your
bib about plots to dilute the white race's gene stock

yeah, that explains alot.


Gunner's Ass is a survivalist? Hehehe. Well, that explains a lot of
the
drool dripping down his chin...survival of the least fit.


He's in his own personal fantasy world. He thinks he's a successful
republican businessman who is living the American dream. The reality,
he
lives in Taft, Calif., which is outside Bakersfield. It's one ugly
place,
flat, desert-like, and nobody in their right mind ever wanted to live
there.
It was a place you drove by when you went up interstate 5 from LA to
northern California. All that was there was oil wells and coyotes.
He's
living a lower working class life, he's never going to get ahead, he
has
no
health insurance, he's already had one heart attack, and as for being
a
survivalist, I give you odds that he doesn't even live four more
years.
So
despite his best laid plans to survive some Sci-Fi disaster fantasy in
reality he'll die in poverty leaving nothing behind but junk and his
dream
of surviving will be nothing but that, a dream. Knowing what a moron
he
is
makes it a lot easier to completely dismiss his twisted and irrelevant
blather.

Hawke

Wow. I almost feel sorry for the guy. Broken dreams.


I would too except that in addition to all that he's a prick.

Hawke


We have a "Gunner" type in our shop. His father was a boxer. I can only
guess how discipline was administered. The guy is very territorial, I am
guessing he had things taken from him as a child, he is very protective of
his space to the extent that he inconveniences others. He parks one of the
trucks right in the driveway "to keep from being blocked in", but all it
does is cause our clients to be inconvenienced. Today, he brought in 3
quarts of oil for our diesel truck and laid them in front of the computer
printer so nothing can feed out of the printer. A homeless guy was in our
dumpster one day looking for cans, our "Gunner" was going to tell him to get
off our property, but I caught up with him while I was taking our shop can
of recyclables out to give the homeless guy, and said, "Man, if you are so
low you have to be in the dumpster, you are welcome to it." The last straw
was when I was talking about the rednecks in Florida (where I have lived 4
times) and he said, "Oh, really? I thought Florida was full of left-wing
extremists."

A product of right-wing talk radio.

On Thu, 18 Sep 2008 23:16:05 -0700, "Roy Blankenship"
wrote:


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"Roy Blankenship" wrote in message
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"Hawke" wrote in message
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"A Boater" wrote in message
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wf3h wrote:

On Sep 16, 5:18 am, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On the other hand..Im a survivalist and have made plans many many
years ago to allow me to weather the crashing of the country, for
whatever reason.

ah...a survivalist. living in the idaho mountains, drooling on
your
bib about plots to dilute the white race's gene stock

yeah, that explains alot.


Gunner's Ass is a survivalist? Hehehe. Well, that explains a lot of
the
drool dripping down his chin...survival of the least fit.


He's in his own personal fantasy world. He thinks he's a successful
republican businessman who is living the American dream. The reality,
he
lives in Taft, Calif., which is outside Bakersfield. It's one ugly
place,
flat, desert-like, and nobody in their right mind ever wanted to live
there.
It was a place you drove by when you went up interstate 5 from LA to
northern California. All that was there was oil wells and coyotes.
He's
living a lower working class life, he's never going to get ahead, he
has
no
health insurance, he's already had one heart attack, and as for being
a
survivalist, I give you odds that he doesn't even live four more
years.
So
despite his best laid plans to survive some Sci-Fi disaster fantasy in
reality he'll die in poverty leaving nothing behind but junk and his
dream
of surviving will be nothing but that, a dream. Knowing what a moron
he
is
makes it a lot easier to completely dismiss his twisted and irrelevant
blather.

Hawke

Wow. I almost feel sorry for the guy. Broken dreams.


I would too except that in addition to all that he's a prick.

Hawke


We have a "Gunner" type in our shop. His father was a boxer. I can only
guess how discipline was administered. The guy is very territorial, I am
guessing he had things taken from him as a child, he is very protective of
his space to the extent that he inconveniences others. He parks one of the
trucks right in the driveway "to keep from being blocked in", but all it
does is cause our clients to be inconvenienced. Today, he brought in 3
quarts of oil for our diesel truck and laid them in front of the computer
printer so nothing can feed out of the printer. A homeless guy was in our
dumpster one day looking for cans, our "Gunner" was going to tell him to get
off our property, but I caught up with him while I was taking our shop can
of recyclables out to give the homeless guy, and said, "Man, if you are so
low you have to be in the dumpster, you are welcome to it." The last straw
was when I was talking about the rednecks in Florida (where I have lived 4
times) and he said, "Oh, really? I thought Florida was full of left-wing
extremists."

A product of right-wing talk radio.

and in the real world, not the deranged depths of your twisted mind,
this applies to me how exactly?

I do animal rescue, I have done significant volunteer work for a local
battered womans shelter, am currently mentoring several felons out on
parole and have literally given the shirt (and coat) off my back to
someone who needed it worste than I did etc etc etc.

Royboy...if you are going to try to insult me, or try to dis me...you
are going ot have to work much harder than that. Given that you dont
know **** about me...your infantile attempts are hysterically funny.
You havent called me an Evil Neocon yet, or a Klanner or a member of
the Religious Right....so either you know better, or are too stupid to
have thought of it yet....Im voting for the latter, by the way.

Did I mention that my parents were Kennedy Democrats? My father was a
watchmaker and jeweler for 35 yrs, with his own shop, and my mom was
the head of the country building department for nearly that long.

Oddly enough...I rather suspect you are not going to be able to square
that one away....roflmao.

Though I will admit both became Republicans after living through the
Carter years, I having been a Republican since Nixon..and at one time
quite proud of it. Now Im a Republitarian, my Dad becoming a rather
hard core libertarian quite a few years ago. Mom becoming dead some
few years ago. Now she shares the same mental attributes of most
Liberals... shrug

Gunner

Hawke wrote:
"A Boater" wrote in message
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wf3h wrote:

On Sep 16, 5:18 am, Gunner Asch wrote:
On the other hand..Im a survivalist and have made plans many many
years ago to allow me to weather the crashing of the country, for
whatever reason.
ah...a survivalist. living in the idaho mountains, drooling on your
bib about plots to dilute the white race's gene stock

yeah, that explains alot.

Gunner's Ass is a survivalist? Hehehe. Well, that explains a lot of the
drool dripping down his chin...survival of the least fit.


He's in his own personal fantasy world. He thinks he's a successful
republican businessman who is living the American dream. The reality, he
lives in Taft, Calif., which is outside Bakersfield. It's one ugly place,
flat, desert-like, and nobody in their right mind ever wanted to live there.
It was a place you drove by when you went up interstate 5 from LA to
northern California. All that was there was oil wells and coyotes. He's
living a lower working class life, he's never going to get ahead, he has no
health insurance, he's already had one heart attack, and as for being a
survivalist, I give you odds that he doesn't even live four more years. So
despite his best laid plans to survive some Sci-Fi disaster fantasy in
reality he'll die in poverty leaving nothing behind but junk and his dream
of surviving will be nothing but that, a dream. Knowing what a moron he is
makes it a lot easier to completely dismiss his twisted and irrelevant
blather.

Hawke


From dust to dust, Hawke. You'll remember this when it's your time.





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"Hawke" wrote in message
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"A Boater" wrote in message
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wf3h wrote:

On Sep 16, 5:18 am, Gunner Asch wrote:

On the other hand..Im a survivalist and have made plans many many
years ago to allow me to weather the crashing of the country, for
whatever reason.

ah...a survivalist. living in the idaho mountains, drooling on your
bib about plots to dilute the white race's gene stock

yeah, that explains alot.


Gunner's Ass is a survivalist? Hehehe. Well, that explains a lot of the
drool dripping down his chin...survival of the least fit.


He's in his own personal fantasy world. He thinks he's a successful
republican businessman who is living the American dream. The reality, he
lives in Taft, Calif., which is outside Bakersfield. It's one ugly place,
flat, desert-like, and nobody in their right mind ever wanted to live
there.
It was a place you drove by when you went up interstate 5 from LA to
northern California. All that was there was oil wells and coyotes. He's
living a lower working class life, he's never going to get ahead, he has
no
health insurance, he's already had one heart attack, and as for being a
survivalist, I give you odds that he doesn't even live four more years. So
despite his best laid plans to survive some Sci-Fi disaster fantasy in
reality he'll die in poverty leaving nothing behind but junk and his dream
of surviving will be nothing but that, a dream. Knowing what a moron he is
makes it a lot easier to completely dismiss his twisted and irrelevant
blather.

Hawke



I can see you have never been to Taft. Nicer than Bakersfield without the
gang violence. In the desert foothills. Has a college, and is great if you
are into the outdoors. My wife lived there for a few years as a child, as
her dad was a Chevron employee. She did not feel deprived.

Calif Bill wrote:
"Hawke" wrote in message
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"A Boater" wrote in message
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wf3h wrote:

On Sep 16, 5:18 am, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On the other hand..Im a survivalist and have made plans many many
years ago to allow me to weather the crashing of the country, for
whatever reason.

ah...a survivalist. living in the idaho mountains, drooling on your
bib about plots to dilute the white race's gene stock

yeah, that explains alot.


Gunner's Ass is a survivalist? Hehehe. Well, that explains a lot of
the drool dripping down his chin...survival of the least fit.


He's in his own personal fantasy world. He thinks he's a successful
republican businessman who is living the American dream. The
reality, he lives in Taft, Calif., which is outside Bakersfield.
It's one ugly place, flat, desert-like, and nobody in their right
mind ever wanted to live there.
It was a place you drove by when you went up interstate 5 from LA to
northern California. All that was there was oil wells and coyotes.
He's living a lower working class life, he's never going to get
ahead, he has no
health insurance, he's already had one heart attack, and as for
being a survivalist, I give you odds that he doesn't even live four
more years. So despite his best laid plans to survive some Sci-Fi
disaster fantasy in reality he'll die in poverty leaving nothing
behind but junk and his dream of surviving will be nothing but that,
a dream. Knowing what a moron he is makes it a lot easier to
completely dismiss his twisted and irrelevant blather.

Hawke



I can see you have never been to Taft. Nicer than Bakersfield
without the gang violence. In the desert foothills. Has a college,
and is great if you are into the outdoors. My wife lived there for a
few years as a child, as her dad was a Chevron employee. She did not
feel deprived.

Taft is a **** hole.


--

John R. Carroll
www.machiningsolution.com

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Calif Bill wrote:
"Hawke" wrote in message
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"A Boater" wrote in message
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wf3h wrote:

On Sep 16, 5:18 am, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On the other hand..Im a survivalist and have made plans many many
years ago to allow me to weather the crashing of the country, for
whatever reason.

ah...a survivalist. living in the idaho mountains, drooling on your
bib about plots to dilute the white race's gene stock

yeah, that explains alot.


Gunner's Ass is a survivalist? Hehehe. Well, that explains a lot of
the drool dripping down his chin...survival of the least fit.


He's in his own personal fantasy world. He thinks he's a successful
republican businessman who is living the American dream. The
reality, he lives in Taft, Calif., which is outside Bakersfield.
It's one ugly place, flat, desert-like, and nobody in their right
mind ever wanted to live there.
It was a place you drove by when you went up interstate 5 from LA to
northern California. All that was there was oil wells and coyotes.
He's living a lower working class life, he's never going to get
ahead, he has no
health insurance, he's already had one heart attack, and as for
being a survivalist, I give you odds that he doesn't even live four
more years. So despite his best laid plans to survive some Sci-Fi
disaster fantasy in reality he'll die in poverty leaving nothing
behind but junk and his dream of surviving will be nothing but that,
a dream. Knowing what a moron he is makes it a lot easier to
completely dismiss his twisted and irrelevant blather.

Hawke



I can see you have never been to Taft. Nicer than Bakersfield
without the gang violence. In the desert foothills. Has a college,
and is great if you are into the outdoors. My wife lived there for a
few years as a child, as her dad was a Chevron employee. She did not
feel deprived.

Taft is a **** hole.


--

John R. Carroll
www.machiningsolution.com



It may not be Malibu, but is not a ********.