On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:21:13 -0400, A Boater wrote:



"Our economy, I think still—the fundamentals of our economy are strong."
—John McCain, speaking on the morning of September 15


Right. And the check is in the mail.


Actually..it is strong.

I promise not to cum in your mouth.

Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:21:13 -0400, A Boater wrote:


"Our economy, I think still—the fundamentals of our economy are strong."
—John McCain, speaking on the morning of September 15


Right. And the check is in the mail.





Actually..it is strong.




"Actually..it is strong. "


You just gotta love these right-wing Republitards.

Reported unemployment is more than 6%. Actual unemployment is much higher.

Four million American families are losing their homes through mortgage
default.

Major financial institutions are collapsing.

Major and minor American corporations are disintegrating.

Gasoline is selling for three times what it was when Bush presumed office.

Consumer spending is way down because Americans are fearful of the future.


But, according to Herbert Hoover McCain *and* Gunner,
"...it (the economy) is strong."

On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:32:54 -0400, HK wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:21:13 -0400, A Boater wrote:


"Our economy, I think still—the fundamentals of our economy are strong."
—John McCain, speaking on the morning of September 15


Right. And the check is in the mail.





Actually..it is strong.




"Actually..it is strong. "


You just gotta love these right-wing Republitards.

Reported unemployment is more than 6%. Actual unemployment is much higher.

Four million American families are losing their homes through mortgage
default.

Major financial institutions are collapsing.

Major and minor American corporations are disintegrating.

Gasoline is selling for three times what it was when Bush presumed office.

Consumer spending is way down because Americans are fearful of the future.


But, according to Herbert Hoover McCain *and* Gunner,
"...it (the economy) is strong."

The way these people *think* is along these lines:

a recession is when the other guy is out of work

a depression is when YOU are out of work

take a look at what's going on in Michigan (Detroit area) as far as
union wage cuts and employee cuts are concerned. Or the Nevada real
estate market.

Or any of the textile regions of the southeast.

People are hurting _badly_. Anyone who denies this is living on
another planet. And to bring it home...take a hard look at
California's economy.

Banks are folding, that have been in business for 100 years, and the
"leading economic indicators" on Wall Street show a house of cards
collapsing to the ground.

Still, there are those who remain in denial. Stuck on Stupid. Who
think things are just fine and dandy.

Nick

On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:07:07 -0500, Nicholas
wrote:

On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:32:54 -0400, HK wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:21:13 -0400, A Boater wrote:


"Our economy, I think still—the fundamentals of our economy are strong."
—John McCain, speaking on the morning of September 15


Right. And the check is in the mail.





Actually..it is strong.




"Actually..it is strong. "


You just gotta love these right-wing Republitards.

Reported unemployment is more than 6%. Actual unemployment is much higher.

Four million American families are losing their homes through mortgage
default.

Major financial institutions are collapsing.

Major and minor American corporations are disintegrating.

Gasoline is selling for three times what it was when Bush presumed office.

Consumer spending is way down because Americans are fearful of the future.


But, according to Herbert Hoover McCain *and* Gunner,
"...it (the economy) is strong."

The way these people *think* is along these lines:

a recession is when the other guy is out of work

a depression is when YOU are out of work

take a look at what's going on in Michigan (Detroit area) as far as
union wage cuts and employee cuts are concerned. Or the Nevada real
estate market.

They have been in the ******** for years..even before Clinton.
Rustbelt ring any bells?

Or any of the textile regions of the southeast.
That goes back to at least Carter. when shoes and textiles were
offshored.


People are hurting _badly_. Anyone who denies this is living on
another planet. And to bring it home...take a hard look at
California's economy.

I live in California.


Banks are folding, that have been in business for 100 years, and the
"leading economic indicators" on Wall Street show a house of cards
collapsing to the ground.

Greed is a terrible thing when it goes out of control.

Still, there are those who remain in denial. Stuck on Stupid. Who
think things are just fine and dandy.

Nick

I said the economy is still strong, not that everything was fine and
dandy.

The whole thing will go right into the ******** after the elections,
and then we can blame it on the Democrats, when they try to tax us
into prosperity.

On Sep 15, 9:35*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:


The whole thing will go right into the ******** after the elections,
and then we can blame it on the Democrats, when they try to tax us
into prosperity.-

sorry...the GOP has already sold the US to the chinese. there's
nothing left to tax

On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:45:24 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Sep 15, 9:35*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:


The whole thing will go right into the ******** after the elections,
and then we can blame it on the Democrats, when they try to tax us
into prosperity.-

sorry...the GOP has already sold the US to the chinese. there's
nothing left to tax


Tell that to your Obamassiah.

Gunner

On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:32:54 -0400, HK wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:21:13 -0400, A Boater wrote:


"Our economy, I think still—the fundamentals of our economy are strong."
—John McCain, speaking on the morning of September 15


Right. And the check is in the mail.





Actually..it is strong.




"Actually..it is strong. "


You just gotta love these right-wing Republitards.

Reported unemployment is more than 6%. Actual unemployment is much higher.

Cites?

Four million American families are losing their homes through mortgage
default.

Bush's fault?

Major financial institutions are collapsing.

Bush's fault?


Major and minor American corporations are disintegrating.

Bush's fault?


Gasoline is selling for three times what it was when Bush presumed office.

Gasoline is going down, does he get credit for that too?


Consumer spending is way down because Americans are fearful of the future.

Bush controls the Media?



But, according to Herbert Hoover McCain *and* Gunner,
"...it (the economy) is strong."


I passed 11 brand new machine tools all nicly wrapped in plastic on
trucks last week at variouis times, Haas, Fadal etc

Been in a Walmart lately?

Durable goods is up, as is manufacturing. Seems that falling dollar is
good for manufacturing. and exports.

Are we in a recession? Yes, but not a bad one. Seen any bread lines
and soup kitchens lately?

If there had been a Democrat in office, we likely would be going
through the same cycle..and you would be claiming all was rosey

You leftards are simply suffering from BDS.

Say...if your Obamassiah gets into office, and the country collapses
as yall are claiming its going to do....will it be Obamas fault?

Laugh laugh laugh

Gunner, reader of history long before Jan 7, 2001

On Sep 15, 9:33*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:32:54 -0400, HK wrote:

Reported unemployment is more than 6%. Actual unemployment is much higher.

On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:52:25 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Sep 15, 9:33*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:32:54 -0400, HK wrote:

Reported unemployment is more than 6%. Actual unemployment is much higher.

Cites?

you obviously don't watch the news. seems you only get your
information about the world from mccain ads.

No..I seldom watch the Leftwing Media propaganda.

moron.

Odd..Im thinking the same about you.

Four million American families are losing their homes through mortgage
default.

Bush's fault?

bush, like the good lap dog of the rich that he is, runs to support
every failing financial institution because he's worried about the
rich.

Odd...then he is not trying to keep the economy going and keep the
little people from losing all their money?

Cites?

but when katrina hit new orleans? he ****ed 'em and ****ed 'em good.

Actually...if you had ever left your Mommas basement, you would have
discovered that the Louisiana Democrat Machine, headed up by Gov
Blanco and Mayor Ray Nagin ****ed up their constituants very very
badly and it took Bush and the Feds to save those people.

I wonder...with all the damage along the rest of the Gulf coast with
Katrina...why was the Democrat run New Orleans the only one in really
really deep ****...with countless murders of people in the stadium and
dying in the rain (Leftwing media quotes)





Major and minor American corporations are disintegrating.

Bush's fault?

actually...yeah. bush could have sent legislation to the GOP
controlled congress anytime during his term to re-regulate financial
markets that had been deregulated by the paid whore senator phil
gramm, republican of.....ahem...texas.

So could have your butt buddy Bill CLinton. Im curious however..why
hasnt the Democrat Controlled Congress taken care of it before the
meltdown?


but texas boys don't **** each other. and gramm's wife, a board
member of enron, was busy raping the employees of enron as it went
bankrupt.

You sound like you are jealous. Or upset you dont get to **** texas
boys.
=
Gasoline is selling for three times what it was when Bush presumed office.

Gasoline is going down, does he get credit for that too?

you don't think he called his texas buddies and said mccain might lose
unless gas came down?

It appears your grasp of economics and the petroleum industry is as
feeble as your grasp of current politics.

Rather pitiful actually. Sucks to be you.



Consumer spending is way down because Americans are fearful of the future.

Bush controls the Media?

look at what happened to olberman on msnbc. he told the truth about
mccain. 15 minutes later, after mccain made a call to NBC, olberman
was off the air.

Like Dan Rather?



Durable goods is up, as is manufacturing. Seems that falling dollar is
good for manufacturing. and exports.

the USA is having a GOING OUT OF BUSINESS SALE!!! courtesy of the
republicans!! everything must go!!

Odd...the CBO doesnt think so. Only those suffering the terminal
stages of BDS and their programmers in the DNC make those sort of
bull**** claims.

Are we in a recession? Yes, but not a bad one. Seen any bread lines
and soup kitchens lately?

If there had been a Democrat in office, we likely would be going
through the same cycle..and you would be claiming all was rosey

and who was the last president to balance the budget??

a democrat named 'clinton'

ROFLMAO....even CLintons CBO calls him and you a liar. There was NO
balanced budget, you utter ****wit..it was smoke and mirrors with
accounting tricks. In fact..Clinton gave us the recession when he left
that Bush had to pull the country out of when he first took office.

Need the cites on that one too?



You leftards are simply suffering from BDS.

says the guy who thinks republicans wrote the 4 gospels.

Im Buddhist. I dont pay attention to gospels.


Say...if your Obamassiah gets into office, and the country collapses
as yall are claiming its going to do....will it be Obamas fault?

too late. the country has already collapsed. better learn chinese, my
friend.

Odd..the chinese are learning English. If the US goes down the
toilet..so will the Chinese..and a big chunk of the rest of the
planet.

On the other hand..Im a survivalist and have made plans many many
years ago to allow me to weather the crashing of the country, for
whatever reason.

Ill wave as you shuffle by, carrying your personal possessions in a
cardboard box on your was to a soup kitchen..maybe..or if your luck
runs out..an unmarked grave as a Underprivledged Youth sticks a blade
into your neck and loots whatever crumbs you have left.

Laugh laugh laugh

Gunner

On Sep 16, 5:18 am, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:52:25 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:
you obviously don't watch the news. seems you only get your
information about the world from mccain ads.

No..I seldom watch the Leftwing Media propaganda.


there is no left wing in this country. there is fox news...and then
there's the right wing press.

bush, like the good lap dog of the rich that he is, runs to support
every failing financial institution because he's worried about the
rich.

Odd...then he is not trying to keep the economy going and keep the
little people from losing all their money?

uh huh. that's why he bails out bear stearns and resists helping
individual home owners who are losing their home.

so, no...he's not helping the middle class.


Cites?



but when katrina hit new orleans? he ****ed 'em and ****ed 'em good.

Actually...if you had ever left your Mommas basement, you would have
discovered that the Louisiana Democrat Machine, headed up by Gov
Blanco and Mayor Ray Nagin ****ed up their constituants very very
badly and it took Bush and the Feds to save those people.

uh...no. there were no federal resources available to help, except for
the Coast Guard which rescued 33,000 people.

bush put a horse lawyer in charge of FEMA. and all that guy did was
roll up his sleeves to appear in front of cameras.


actually...yeah. bush could have sent legislation to the GOP
controlled congress anytime during his term to re-regulate financial
markets that had been deregulated by the paid whore senator phil
gramm, republican of.....ahem...texas.

So could have your butt buddy Bill CLinton. Im curious however..why
hasnt the Democrat Controlled Congress taken care of it before the
meltdown?

?? i'd call you an idiot but you'd have to gain 40 IQ points to reach
that level.

the legislation deregulating the financial services sector was passed
by the GOP senate led by texas senator phil gramm, and signed by our
current president george bush

uh...i'll break it to you gently since you're just coming out of
medication: clinton's not president any more...




but texas boys don't **** each other. and gramm's wife, a board
member of enron, was busy raping the employees of enron as it went
bankrupt.

You sound like you are jealous. Or upset you dont get to **** texas
boys.

i get ****ed by texas boys every day. bush has been president...so to
speak...for 8 years.

look at what happened to olberman on msnbc. he told the truth about
mccain. 15 minutes later, after mccain made a call to NBC, olberman
was off the air.

Like Dan Rather?

uh...i see you're stuck in the clinton era. you need to have the nurse
bring you a paper so you can catch up on current events.




Durable goods is up, as is manufacturing. Seems that falling dollar is
good for manufacturing. and exports.

the USA is having a GOING OUT OF BUSINESS SALE!!! courtesy of the
republicans!! everything must go!!

Odd...the CBO doesnt think so. Only those suffering the terminal
stages of BDS and their programmers in the DNC make those sort of
bull**** claims.

as i said, when you don't pay people a living wage...as the american
worker is not...and give all the money to CEO's...you can afford to
sell cheap goods.


you're proving my point, republican.

and who was the last president to balance the budget??

a democrat named 'clinton'

ROFLMAO....even CLintons CBO calls him and you a liar. There was NO
balanced budget, you utter ****wit..it was smoke and mirrors with
accounting tricks. In fact..Clinton gave us the recession when he left
that Bush had to pull the country out of when he first took office.

i guess you believe this because the current deficit is larger than
you can count on your fingers and toes even though you have 6 on each
appendage.

you're just too stupid or lazy to look up the biggest deficits since
WWII, aren't you? you just run along like the good GOP lap dog you
are...


Need the cites on that one too?

yeah...go ahead. prove to me that clinton had larger deficits than
reagan or bush. by all means, do so.




You leftards are simply suffering from BDS.

says the guy who thinks republicans wrote the 4 gospels.

Im Buddhist. I dont pay attention to gospels.

ah. you're living in an alternative universe. no wonder you're
clueless.




Say...if your Obamassiah gets into office, and the country collapses
as yall are claiming its going to do....will it be Obamas fault?

too late. the country has already collapsed. better learn chinese, my
friend.

Odd..the chinese are learning English. If the US goes down the
toilet..so will the Chinese..and a big chunk of the rest of the
planet.

that's part of the problem, isn't it? they learn english, and morons
like you don't think you need to learn anything. and the chinese will
be happy to take the US for 10 cents on the dollar. their currency is
so overvalued now, being pegged to the dollar.


On the other hand..Im a survivalist and have made plans many many
years ago to allow me to weather the crashing of the country, for
whatever reason.

ah...a survivalist. living in the idaho mountains, drooling on your
bib about plots to dilute the white race's gene stock

yeah, that explains alot.

seems you actually DO believe the GOP is gonna drive us to bankruptcy.
you just hate to admit it.


Ill wave as you shuffle by, carrying your personal possessions in a
cardboard box on your was to a soup kitchen

no wonder you don't see the GOP as a threat. you already live in your
basement on canned food. 4 more years of GOP leadership won't be that
much of a change for you.