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Well, we got the sanding done and painted the inside of the Brockway
yesterday. Battleship grey was in the Goof isle at Home Depot,
perfect, flat, nice. It was pretty hot so I had to move quickly, but I
was using a power roller with a pad attachment too. Great for doing
the inside, does a much better job than the sprayers I have used in
the past. Rollers with a "tip" method brush is still the best way to
go for wood boats.

Time today to flip her over and do the bottom, that will be much
easier.

Later, Scotty
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On Sep 4, 11:34*am, hk wrote:
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Well, we got the sanding done and painted the inside of the Brockway
yesterday. Battleship grey was in the Goof isle at Home Depot,
perfect, flat, nice. It was pretty hot so I had to move quickly, but I
was using a power roller with a pad attachment too. Great for doing
the inside, does a much better job than the sprayers I have used in
the past. Rollers with a "tip" method brush is still the best way to
go for wood boats.


Time today to flip her over and do the bottom, that will be much
easier.


Later, Scotty


You used flat house paint on a boat? *:)


Since you really don't know what you are talking about here I will
note that Enamel is Enamel, is Enamel. Let me know when a chemist
comese up with a better Enamel, K? A real boat builder explained that
to me years ago. You don't spend 400 bucks to paint a plywood boat, it
would be silly...

When I was painting wood boats, and I did a whole lot of that, since it
was the job for the relatively unskilled at the boat yard (this was
before the days of high tech paint),


You do realize that "marine" paint is inspected and tested for it's
intended use, but it's still just paint, right? I have no problem
using Benjamin Moore or Pittsburgh on the interior of a boat, it is
well made, and breathes nicely. Bet Google didn't tell you that..

we used nice brushes to put on
paint, not rollers, so we could work in the paint. We even brushed on
bottom paint on the smaller boats.


Since you really never painted or built a wooden boat, I suggest you
look up "tip" method of "brushing" paint, which I used here... Yes, a
Purdy 3" angle, it's all I ever use or need to follow the rollers..

But, if you're using flat house paint, it'll flake off soon enough...so
I guess it doesn't make a difference.


Uh, on the inside of the boat, it is fine, I have never had any
problems and unlike you, I have built nearly 60 boats and painted at
least half of them...

I

At least you got the aisle right, eh?

BTW, the word "isle" usually is used in reference to an geographical
island...a land mass surrounded by water.


BFD, you have google and a spellchecker, still doesn't make you an
expert on anything but bull****. Since it is clear you don't even
really know the simple basics of work skiffs, your followups will be
ignored, unless you can squeak out a serious question that is not
loaded or a troll... unlikely..

Scotty from SmallBoats.com

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On Sep 4, 11:34 am, hk wrote:
wrote:
Well, we got the sanding done and painted the inside of the Brockway
yesterday. Battleship grey was in the Goof isle at Home Depot,
perfect, flat, nice. It was pretty hot so I had to move quickly, but I
was using a power roller with a pad attachment too. Great for doing
the inside, does a much better job than the sprayers I have used in
the past. Rollers with a "tip" method brush is still the best way to
go for wood boats.
Time today to flip her over and do the bottom, that will be much
easier.
Later, Scotty

You used flat house paint on a boat? :)


Since you really don't know what you are talking about here I will
note that Enamel is Enamel, is Enamel. Let me know when a chemist
comese up with a better Enamel, K? A real boat builder explained that
to me years ago. You don't spend 400 bucks to paint a plywood boat, it
would be silly...
When I was painting wood boats, and I did a whole lot of that, since it
was the job for the relatively unskilled at the boat yard (this was
before the days of high tech paint),


You do realize that "marine" paint is inspected and tested for it's
intended use, but it's still just paint, right? I have no problem
using Benjamin Moore or Pittsburgh on the interior of a boat, it is
well made, and breathes nicely. Bet Google didn't tell you that..

we used nice brushes to put on
paint, not rollers, so we could work in the paint. We even brushed on
bottom paint on the smaller boats.


Since you really never painted or built a wooden boat, I suggest you
look up "tip" method of "brushing" paint, which I used here... Yes, a
Purdy 3" angle, it's all I ever use or need to follow the rollers..
But, if you're using flat house paint, it'll flake off soon enough...so
I guess it doesn't make a difference.


Uh, on the inside of the boat, it is fine, I have never had any
problems and unlike you, I have built nearly 60 boats and painted at
least half of them...

I
At least you got the aisle right, eh?

BTW, the word "isle" usually is used in reference to an geographical
island...a land mass surrounded by water.


BFD, you have google and a spellchecker, still doesn't make you an
expert on anything but bull****. Since it is clear you don't even
really know the simple basics of work skiffs, your followups will be
ignored, unless you can squeak out a serious question that is not
loaded or a troll... unlikely..

Scotty from SmallBoats.com



1. I saw the photos of that Brockway skiff, and thought it exhibited one
of the worst paint jobs I have ever seen on a small boat. It was sloppy,
with overlaps, and the grey paint on the floor was peeling off in many
places. If I ever painted one of my father's customer's boats as poorly
as you painted that skiff, he'd have gone through the roof. Don't you
have a roll of masking tape?

2. I don't use an external spellchecker here or anywhere else.
I do use the spellchecker in my head when it matters.

3. A lot of my father's trade when he was in the boat business was work
skiffs, including actual skiffs from a company in Greenwich or Norwalk
named "Skimmar" or something like that (long gone, I am sure), plywood
skiffs the guys in the shop built in the winter, and Amesbury dories
from Stur-Dee. *All* of those boats, the factory-built ones and the
shopbuilt ones, exhibited more quality and certainly a better paint job
than anything I have seen from you.

Perhaps your problem with the paint jobs is that you don't have steady
hands. That wouldn't surprise me.


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On Sep 4, 12:07*pm, hk wrote:
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On Sep 4, 11:34 am, hk wrote:
wrote:
Well, we got the sanding done and painted the inside of the Brockway
yesterday. Battleship grey was in the Goof isle at Home Depot,
perfect, flat, nice. It was pretty hot so I had to move quickly, but I
was using a power roller with a pad attachment too. Great for doing
the inside, does a much better job than the sprayers I have used in
the past. Rollers with a "tip" method brush is still the best way to
go for wood boats.
Time today to flip her over and do the bottom, that will be much
easier.
Later, Scotty
You used flat house paint on a boat? *:)


Since you really don't know what you are talking about here I will
note that Enamel is Enamel, is Enamel. Let me know when a chemist
comese up with a better Enamel, K? A real boat builder explained that
to me years ago. You don't spend 400 bucks to paint a plywood boat, it
would be silly...
When I was painting wood boats, and I did a whole lot of that, since it
was the job for the relatively unskilled at the boat yard (this was
before the days of high tech paint),


You do realize that "marine" paint is inspected and tested for it's
intended use, but it's still just paint, right? I have no problem
using Benjamin Moore or Pittsburgh on the interior of a boat, it is
well made, and breathes nicely. Bet Google didn't tell you that..


we used nice brushes to put on
paint, not rollers, so we could work in the paint. We even brushed on
bottom paint on the smaller boats.


Since you really never painted or built a wooden boat, I suggest you
look up "tip" method of "brushing" paint, which I used here... Yes, a
Purdy 3" angle, it's all I ever use or need to follow the rollers..
But, if you're using flat house paint, it'll flake off soon enough...so
I guess it doesn't make a difference.


Uh, on the inside of the boat, it is fine, I have never had any
problems and unlike you, I have built nearly 60 boats and painted at
least half of them...


I
At least you got the aisle right, eh?


BTW, the word "isle" usually is used in reference to an geographical
island...a land mass surrounded by water.


BFD, you have google and a spellchecker, still doesn't make you an
expert on anything but bull****. Since it is clear you don't even
really know the simple basics of work skiffs, your followups will be
ignored, unless you can squeak out a serious question that is not
loaded or a troll... unlikely..


Scotty from SmallBoats.com


1. I saw the photos of that Brockway skiff, and thought it exhibited one
of the worst paint jobs I have ever seen on a small boat. It was sloppy,
with overlaps, and the grey paint on the floor was peeling off in many
places. If I ever painted one of my father's customer's boats as poorly
as you painted that skiff, he'd have gone through the roof. Don't you
have a roll of masking tape?

2. I don't use an external spellchecker here or anywhere else.
I do use the spellchecker in my head when it matters.

3. A lot of my father's trade when he was in the boat business was work
skiffs, including actual skiffs from a company in Greenwich or Norwalk
named "Skimmar" or something like that (long gone, I am sure), plywood
skiffs the guys in the shop built in the winter, and Amesbury dories
from Stur-Dee. **All* of those boats, the factory-built ones and the
shopbuilt ones, exhibited more quality and certainly a better paint job
than anything I have seen from you.

Perhaps your problem with the paint jobs is that you don't have steady
hands. That wouldn't surprise me.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Yeah, but there is no evidence that your dad ever owned a shop, or
that you have built any boats, you are a wordsmith, and a dishonest
one at that.

Anyway, Tipping is a technique developed for the new high end poly or
epoxy paints, especially. It involves applying the paint with a roller
for speed coverage and fill. As soon as you start to see a reaction,
you follow with very light pressure and the brush at 90 degrees to the
work, one pass, in one direction. This allows the paint to flow again
but at a slower pace. If done correctly, it can produce a better
surface than even some spray methods.

Power painters, rollers, spray, etc. are used for application only.
It's just a lot easier than dipping and dipping, then switching to a
dry brush for tipping. HVLP works great for outside and the lighter
based, poly/epoxy paints. High pressure or a couple of various size
rollers do great inside near the framework. Being a work skiff, this
boat has some rough edges here and there, so I use disposable rollers.
The little pink ones (6" x 1") I find to work best.

Runs, drips, egos.. no time here, this is a tool. Paint is a part of
the tool, the tool will work just as well with a couple of drips. We
are talking a hull with a total material cost of under 400 dollars. As
many of you may have seen from last years vids, the kids and fish
didn't mind the flaws...
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Anyway, Tipping is a technique developed for the new high end poly or
epoxy paints, especially.


There is nothing even remotely "new" about roll and tip painting.

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On Sep 4, 12:55*pm, hk wrote:
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On Sep 4, 12:07 pm, hk wrote:
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On Sep 4, 11:34 am, hk wrote:

Yeah, but there is no evidence that your dad ever owned a shop, or
that you have built any boats, you are a wordsmith, and a dishonest
one at that.


Well, that's a laugh. I shut the business down in the early 1970's and
sold off the real estate. I only know a couple of guys still living in
the general area who knew my father. Neither will waste a second of
their days talking to someone like you.`


You know somebody, who knows sombody huh? We have heard that before
from you... Lobsta' boat...
`

Anyway,...


(nonsense clipped.

Runs, drips, egos.. no time here, this is a tool. Paint is a part of
the tool, the tool will work just as well with a couple of drips.


As I stated, you are sloppy.


Lobsta' boat

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