hk wrote:
Vince wrote:
hk wrote:
Vincent wrote:
hk wrote:
Vincent wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 12:28:32 -0400, hk wrote:


Well, I wasn't going to be the one to spill the alleged details.
If it
is true, it is an immediate disqualifier for the woman, not
because of
the act, but because of the basic dishonesty it exhibits.

BS, there are times a lie is justified. This is one of them.
Again, it's their business.


Her daughter is pregnant right now

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...100710_pf.html


Vince


Birth control isn't available in Alaska?

not for the right wing evangelicals, they rely on abstinence
education, until they become grandparents



Vince


Well, I hope the girl is treated more kindly by the media than Jamie
Lynn Spears was. I also hope she was at least 16 when she had
intercourse, assuming 16 is the age of consent in Alaska.

Ah, yes...abstinence education, about as realistic as, say, creationism.

The girl deserves proper treatment and privacy

Remember this woman was picked to appeal to the evangelical family
values anti sex anti abortion crowd

the 2004 gop platform was clearly in the "keep em stupid " version of
sex education

"Therefore, we support doubling abstinence education funding. We
oppose school-based clinics that provide referrals, counseling, and
related services for contraception and abortion."

The republicans make teen pregnancies a political issue


The failure by her mother to promptly disclose and the poor judgment
shown by McCain in thinking this could be kept secret are very and
reasonably troubling


Vince


"Therefore, we support doubling abstinence education funding. We oppose
school-based clinics that provide referrals, counseling, and related
services for contraception and abortion."


Obviously, the Republicans favor teen pregnancies, because if they
didn't, they would favor school based clinics that provide referrals,
counseling and related services for contraception, if not for abortion.

I don't want to see the young lady interviewed or overly photographed
because of this, but I sure want to see her mama and papa questioned
about this, their child-rearing practices, and their ability to raise
the remainder of their children in the face of this failure.

And I entirely agree with your comment about McCain.
His failure to disclose is yet another lapse.


right especially when they used her children to prop up her campaigne
appearance

"At a rally Saturday evening in Washington, Pennsylvania, Bristol did
not join the rest of her family on stage.

"Then we have our daughter Bristol, she's on the bus with the newborn,
and then we have our daughter Willow, who is here, and our youngest
daughter Piper," Palin said as she introduced her family.

"On that bus we have our son Trig, who is a beautiful baby boy we
welcomed into the world just in April. It's his naptime, so he is with
his big sister on the bus. But we thank them for being here."


So she is the "big sister" not the pregnant girl who we dont want seen

Vince

"Vince" wrote in message
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hk wrote:
Vincent wrote:
hk wrote:
Vincent wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 12:28:32 -0400, hk wrote:


Well, I wasn't going to be the one to spill the alleged details. If
it
is true, it is an immediate disqualifier for the woman, not because
of
the act, but because of the basic dishonesty it exhibits.

BS, there are times a lie is justified. This is one of them. Again,
it's their business.


Her daughter is pregnant right now

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...100710_pf.html

Vince


Birth control isn't available in Alaska?

not for the right wing evangelicals, they rely on abstinence education,
until they become grandparents



Vince


Well, I hope the girl is treated more kindly by the media than Jamie Lynn
Spears was. I also hope she was at least 16 when she had intercourse,
assuming 16 is the age of consent in Alaska.

Ah, yes...abstinence education, about as realistic as, say, creationism.

The girl deserves proper treatment and privacy

Remember this woman was picked to appeal to the evangelical family values
anti sex anti abortion crowd

the 2004 gop platform was clearly in the "keep em stupid " version of sex
education

"Therefore, we support doubling abstinence education funding. We oppose
school-based clinics that provide referrals, counseling, and related
services for contraception and abortion."

The republicans make teen pregnancies a political issue


The failure by her mother to promptly disclose and the poor judgment shown
by McCain in thinking this could be kept secret are very and reasonably
troubling


What it does is demonstrate ... dare I say it again ... hypocrisy. When you
are someone and some Party that purports to be the beacon of high moral
values, make sure you are prepared for the fall from grace ...

- nilita

"tankfixer" wrote in message
...
In article , raymond-
says...

"tankfixer" wrote in message
. ..
dying.

and telling people with nowhere to go and no cars to get there is
rather
hopeless.
but nothing is ever georges fault is it.

If he had acted before being asked you would be howling how he excceed
his authority

straw man arguments is all you ever have.

PKB son.

The president does not have dictatorial powers, no matter what your
paranoid mind may think.


he didn't need dictatorial powers, all he had to do was exercise the ones
he did have.
instead he ate cake with mccain. then went fund raising in ariona and
california

Raymond O'Hara wrote:
"tankfixer" wrote in message
...
In article , raymond-
says...
"tankfixer" wrote in message
. ..
dying.
and telling people with nowhere to go and no cars to get there is
rather
hopeless.
but nothing is ever georges fault is it.
If he had acted before being asked you would be howling how he excceed
his authority
straw man arguments is all you ever have.
PKB son.

The president does not have dictatorial powers, no matter what your
paranoid mind may think.


he didn't need dictatorial powers, all he had to do was exercise the ones
he did have.
instead he ate cake with mccain. then went fund raising in ariona and
california




Bush thinks he has dictatorial powers. Just check his history of
"signing statements."

On Sep 1, 12:34*pm, "La N" wrote:
"Vince" wrote in message

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hk wrote:
Vincent wrote:
hk wrote:
Vincent wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 12:28:32 -0400, hk wrote:

Well, I wasn't going to be the one to spill the alleged details. If
it
is true, it is an immediate disqualifier for the woman, not because
of
the act, but because of the basic dishonesty it exhibits.

BS, there are times a lie is justified. *This is one of them. *Again,
it's their business.

Her daughter is pregnant right now

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...08/09/01/AR200...

Vince

Birth control isn't available in Alaska?

not for the right wing evangelicals, they rely on abstinence education,
until they become grandparents

Vince

Well, I hope the girl is treated more kindly by the media than Jamie Lynn
Spears was. I also hope she was at least 16 when she had intercourse,
assuming 16 is the age of consent in Alaska.

Ah, yes...abstinence education, about as realistic as, say, creationism.

The girl deserves proper treatment and privacy

Remember this woman was picked to appeal to the evangelical family values
anti sex anti abortion crowd

the 2004 gop platform was clearly in the "keep em stupid " version of sex
education

"Therefore, we support doubling abstinence education funding. We oppose
school-based clinics that provide referrals, counseling, and related
services for contraception and abortion."

The republicans make teen pregnancies a political issue

The failure by her mother to promptly disclose and the poor judgment shown
by McCain in thinking this could be kept secret are very and reasonably
troubling

What it does is demonstrate ... dare I say it again ... hypocrisy. *When you
are someone and some Party that purports to be the beacon of high moral
values, make sure you are prepared for the fall from grace ...

- nilita

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/20...16/1017/581734

On Sep 1, 11:28*am, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 06:59:35 -0400, hk wrote:

* BTW, there is a very interesting and juicy rumor floating about
regarding Ms. Palin and that pregnancy. It's too salacious for even me
to repeat it here or discuss it before the story breaks.

It's already broken, and it shouldn't have. *Even if true, it's the
family's business, no one else's.

However, there are some tenuous ties to the Alaskan Independence Party
that she should clarify. *I'm not sure I'd want a secessionist as
President.

Well, I wasn't going to be the one to spill the alleged details. If it
is true, it is an immediate disqualifier for the woman, not because of
the act, but because of the basic dishonesty it exhibits.

I'd prefer it *not* to be true.

http://brokencontrollers.com/forums/...ted-t24231.php

On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 17:31:21 GMT, Vince wrote:



So she is the "big sister" not the pregnant girl who we dont want seen

You guys are funny.
A 17 year-old unmarried girl gets pregnant.
Her folks are no doubt upset, maybe shamed, and don't want to parade
her belly on national TV. Not good for her, not good for them.
End of the world as we know it.
You sound like a bunch of old housewives sitting around gossiping.
Hilda says, "Martha, did you hear Bertha saw the Connover's youngest,
Betty I think, necking with the Graves' son, Jimmy I think, right in
his car parked in front of the Connovers' house last night?"
Martha, putting both hands to her lips, astounded, says, "Oh Lordy.
Oh Lordy. I do declare, there's trouble brewing there!"
Hilda replies, "What is this world coming to?" and slowly shakes her
head back and forth in a mournful fashion.
Martha follows suit. Then they tsk tsk as continue knitting doilies.
BTW, these old hags could be had for a couple drinks and some sweet
talk when their skin was smooth. And they had shotgun weddings.
Fits you guys to a T. Gossips.

--Vic

Tim wrote:
On Sep 1, 11:28 am, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 06:59:35 -0400, hk wrote:
* BTW, there is a very interesting and juicy rumor floating about
regarding Ms. Palin and that pregnancy. It's too salacious for even me
to repeat it here or discuss it before the story breaks.
It's already broken, and it shouldn't have. Even if true, it's the
family's business, no one else's.
However, there are some tenuous ties to the Alaskan Independence Party
that she should clarify. I'm not sure I'd want a secessionist as
President.
Well, I wasn't going to be the one to spill the alleged details. If it
is true, it is an immediate disqualifier for the woman, not because of
the act, but because of the basic dishonesty it exhibits.

I'd prefer it *not* to be true.

http://brokencontrollers.com/forums/...ted-t24231.php

Tim,
Harry doesn't care if the story is true, all he is interested in doing
is spreading rumors.

On Sep 1, 1:34*pm, "La N" wrote:
"Vince" wrote in message

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hk wrote:
Vincent wrote:
hk wrote:
Vincent wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 12:28:32 -0400, hk wrote:

Well, I wasn't going to be the one to spill the alleged details. If
it
is true, it is an immediate disqualifier for the woman, not because
of
the act, but because of the basic dishonesty it exhibits.

BS, there are times a lie is justified. *This is one of them. *Again,
it's their business.

Her daughter is pregnant right now

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...08/09/01/AR200...

Vince

Birth control isn't available in Alaska?

not for the right wing evangelicals, they rely on abstinence education,
until they become grandparents

Vince

Well, I hope the girl is treated more kindly by the media than Jamie Lynn
Spears was. I also hope she was at least 16 when she had intercourse,
assuming 16 is the age of consent in Alaska.

Ah, yes...abstinence education, about as realistic as, say, creationism.

The girl deserves proper treatment and privacy

Remember this woman was picked to appeal to the evangelical family values
anti sex anti abortion crowd

the 2004 gop platform was clearly in the "keep em stupid " version of sex
education

"Therefore, we support doubling abstinence education funding. We oppose
school-based clinics that provide referrals, counseling, and related
services for contraception and abortion."

The republicans make teen pregnancies a political issue

The failure by her mother to promptly disclose and the poor judgment shown
by McCain in thinking this could be kept secret are very and reasonably
troubling

What it does is demonstrate ... dare I say it again ... hypocrisy. *When you
are someone and some Party that purports to be the beacon of high moral
values, make sure you are prepared for the fall from grace ...

- nilita- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Hey Harry, how many sockpuppets can you bring to the table at one
time? You need help...

Tim wrote:
On Sep 1, 11:28 am, hk wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 06:59:35 -0400, hk wrote:
* BTW, there is a very interesting and juicy rumor floating about
regarding Ms. Palin and that pregnancy. It's too salacious for even me
to repeat it here or discuss it before the story breaks.
It's already broken, and it shouldn't have. Even if true, it's the
family's business, no one else's.
However, there are some tenuous ties to the Alaskan Independence Party
that she should clarify. I'm not sure I'd want a secessionist as
President.
Well, I wasn't going to be the one to spill the alleged details. If it
is true, it is an immediate disqualifier for the woman, not because of
the act, but because of the basic dishonesty it exhibits.

I'd prefer it *not* to be true.

http://brokencontrollers.com/forums/...ted-t24231.php


Good spin, but not conclusive.

What is conclusive is that the 17-year-old Palin daughter is pregnant
right now. Would it be news if her mother had not come out so strongly
against school-based sex education and contraception counseling and so
strongly in favor of abstinence?

What's worse...McCain knew about this before he named Palin as his
running mate. Did he think it was going to remain a secret?