Jack Linthicum wrote:
On Sep 1, 11:10 am, BAR wrote:
hk wrote:
Fred J. McCall wrote:
hk wrote:
:
:Of course not. If I were "pushing" my beliefs, I'd be actively
seeking :judicial or legislative solutions, :
And Roe v Wade is certainly nothing like that...
You know, you're as big an ass as the people you attack.
D'oh. Roe v. Wade is the law of the land.
Roe vs. Wade is a judicial interpretation. If Congress ever grew a pair
and enacted legislation Roe vs. Wade would disappear with the stroke of
a pen.

Looks like a law to me, do you have a citation that says otherwise?



It is better to say it is "the law" not "a law" Many people confuse
statutes with law. Statutes, treaties, Judicial decisions and binding
regulations are all "the law"

In the case of the particular decision, it is a constitutional
interpretation so it cannot be overturned by a statute

Vince

hk wrote:
Vincent wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 12:28:32 -0400, hk wrote:


Well, I wasn't going to be the one to spill the alleged details. If it
is true, it is an immediate disqualifier for the woman, not because of
the act, but because of the basic dishonesty it exhibits.

BS, there are times a lie is justified. This is one of them. Again,
it's their business.


Her daughter is pregnant right now

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...100710_pf.html


Vince


Birth control isn't available in Alaska?

not for the right wing evangelicals, they rely on abstinence education,
until they become grandparents



Vince

Vincent wrote:
hk wrote:
Vincent wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 12:28:32 -0400, hk wrote:


Well, I wasn't going to be the one to spill the alleged details. If it
is true, it is an immediate disqualifier for the woman, not because of
the act, but because of the basic dishonesty it exhibits.

BS, there are times a lie is justified. This is one of them.
Again, it's their business.


Her daughter is pregnant right now

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...100710_pf.html


Vince


Birth control isn't available in Alaska?

not for the right wing evangelicals, they rely on abstinence education,
until they become grandparents



Vince


Well, I hope the girl is treated more kindly by the media than Jamie
Lynn Spears was. I also hope she was at least 16 when she had
intercourse, assuming 16 is the age of consent in Alaska.

Ah, yes...abstinence education, about as realistic as, say, creationism.

"Fred J. McCall" wrote in message
...
hk wrote:
:
:Of course not. If I were "pushing" my beliefs, I'd be actively seeking
:judicial or legislative solutions,
:

And Roe v Wade is certainly nothing like that...


what does roe v wade force on anybody?
it stops the government from having control over women.

hk wrote:
Vincent wrote:
hk wrote:
Vincent wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 12:28:32 -0400, hk wrote:


Well, I wasn't going to be the one to spill the alleged details.
If it
is true, it is an immediate disqualifier for the woman, not
because of
the act, but because of the basic dishonesty it exhibits.

BS, there are times a lie is justified. This is one of them.
Again, it's their business.


Her daughter is pregnant right now

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...100710_pf.html


Vince


Birth control isn't available in Alaska?

not for the right wing evangelicals, they rely on abstinence
education, until they become grandparents



Vince


Well, I hope the girl is treated more kindly by the media than Jamie
Lynn Spears was. I also hope she was at least 16 when she had
intercourse, assuming 16 is the age of consent in Alaska.

Ah, yes...abstinence education, about as realistic as, say, creationism.

The girl deserves proper treatment and privacy

Remember this woman was picked to appeal to the evangelical family
values anti sex anti abortion crowd

the 2004 gop platform was clearly in the "keep em stupid " version of
sex education

"Therefore, we support doubling abstinence education funding. We oppose
school-based clinics that provide referrals, counseling, and related
services for contraception and abortion."

The republicans make teen pregnancies a political issue


The failure by her mother to promptly disclose and the poor judgment
shown by McCain in thinking this could be kept secret are very and
reasonably troubling


Vince

wrote in message
t...
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 06:59:35 -0400, hk wrote:


* BTW, there is a very interesting and juicy rumor floating about
regarding Ms. Palin and that pregnancy. It's too salacious for even me
to repeat it here or discuss it before the story breaks.

It's already broken, and it shouldn't have. Even if true, it's the
family's business, no one else's.

However, there are some tenuous ties to the Alaskan Independence Party
that she should clarify. I'm not sure I'd want a secessionist as
President.

yes it should have broken
it gets right to the heart of the truthfulness of gov palin.
like troopergate it shows she will lie and also abuse her position for
persinal reasons.

Raymond O'Hara wrote:
"Fred J. McCall" wrote in message
...
hk wrote:
:
:Of course not. If I were "pushing" my beliefs, I'd be actively seeking
:judicial or legislative solutions,
:

And Roe v Wade is certainly nothing like that...


what does roe v wade force on anybody?
it stops the government from having control over women.




Right-wingers don't seem to understand the concept...or the
underpinnings of of Roe v. Wade.

By all that is holy to them Constitutionally and legally, they should be
supporters of Roe v. Wade.

wrote in message
t...
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 12:28:32 -0400, hk wrote:


Well, I wasn't going to be the one to spill the alleged details. If it
is true, it is an immediate disqualifier for the woman, not because of
the act, but because of the basic dishonesty it exhibits.

BS, there are times a lie is justified. This is one of them. Again,
it's their business

no. its not justified. and by lying about it she turned a pvt matter into a
national story.
and if she had been honest about it , not only would it not be a story, it
would strengthen her pro-life, pro-family credentials.
now she is just a typical republican hypocrite

Vince wrote:
hk wrote:
Vincent wrote:
hk wrote:
Vincent wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 12:28:32 -0400, hk wrote:


Well, I wasn't going to be the one to spill the alleged details.
If it
is true, it is an immediate disqualifier for the woman, not
because of
the act, but because of the basic dishonesty it exhibits.

BS, there are times a lie is justified. This is one of them.
Again, it's their business.


Her daughter is pregnant right now

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...100710_pf.html


Vince


Birth control isn't available in Alaska?

not for the right wing evangelicals, they rely on abstinence
education, until they become grandparents



Vince


Well, I hope the girl is treated more kindly by the media than Jamie
Lynn Spears was. I also hope she was at least 16 when she had
intercourse, assuming 16 is the age of consent in Alaska.

Ah, yes...abstinence education, about as realistic as, say, creationism.

The girl deserves proper treatment and privacy

Remember this woman was picked to appeal to the evangelical family
values anti sex anti abortion crowd

the 2004 gop platform was clearly in the "keep em stupid " version of
sex education

"Therefore, we support doubling abstinence education funding. We oppose
school-based clinics that provide referrals, counseling, and related
services for contraception and abortion."

The republicans make teen pregnancies a political issue


The failure by her mother to promptly disclose and the poor judgment
shown by McCain in thinking this could be kept secret are very and
reasonably troubling


Vince


"Therefore, we support doubling abstinence education funding. We oppose
school-based clinics that provide referrals, counseling, and related
services for contraception and abortion."


Obviously, the Republicans favor teen pregnancies, because if they
didn't, they would favor school based clinics that provide referrals,
counseling and related services for contraception, if not for abortion.

I don't want to see the young lady interviewed or overly photographed
because of this, but I sure want to see her mama and papa questioned
about this, their child-rearing practices, and their ability to raise
the remainder of their children in the face of this failure.

And I entirely agree with your comment about McCain.
His failure to disclose is yet another lapse.

"CalifBill" wrote in message
m...

Nope, they did not. Did the Louisiana people handle it right? They
screwed up even worse than the Feds. Would Clinton have screwed it up.
Probably the same as Bush. Is N.O. worth rebuilding? Probably not as
they are trying to do.


typical bull**** eingnut speculation.
and the standard "blame clinton" when all else fails.
yeah nothing is ever the chimplers fault.