Vic Smith wrote:
On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:36:12 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:
I admit, I knew nothing about Ms. Palin. Just read some of her bio and
apparently she's quite the pistol.

I heard 4 kids, one with Down's. She's taking care of them and
governing Alaska. A lot of women will admire her.
I already do for that.

It'll be interesting, but I think McCain's age factor will come into play
more so now.

We shall see. But McCain has thrown a monkey wrench in the works for
sure.

--Vic

It seems a strange choice to me. McCain apparently thinks he can win by
doubling down on the ultra-conservative Republican base, but I think
that is a pipe dream. With this choice, McCain has thrown away his
"experience" argument. And for the moment at least, she has an
investigatory cloud hanging over her head.

On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:42:04 -0400, hk wrote:


If I were McCain and wanted to pick a woman veep, I would have chosen
Christy Todd Whitman.

Being from New Jersey, I can tell you. Whitman has quite a bit of
baggage that would be easily exploitable. Personally, Palin is an odd
choice, but might not be a bad choice. Time will tell.

"JimH" wrote in message
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On Aug 29, 10:52 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"hk" wrote in message

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No way, no how, no McCain!

I now agree with you. McCain just handed the election to Obama/Biden with
his Veep choice.

What was he thinking? One of his biggest handicaps is his age. So, he
picks a 44 year old with virtually no national experience and only a year
and a half as governor of Alaska to be a heartbeat away from being POTUS.

McCain must have a *thing* for former beauty pageant contestants.

Eisboch


Who would you rather have.......a POTUS with no executive and limited
political experience or a VPOTUS with executive but only limited
political experience?


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Putting aside the liberal vs. conservative thing for a moment:

Obama made a brilliant choice in Biden. Biden fills in the void of Obama's
lack of national experience.
McCain, at 72 years old, made a choice that is strictly for political,
electibility reasons, I am afraid.

I've pointed out before ... I vote for the team that I think will best serve
the national security interests of the US because, to me, that's their
primary job. Social welfare programs, hurricane relief and bridge repairs
are the responsibility of the state and local governments, with federal
assistance and laws as required.

Eisboch

On Aug 29, 11:50*am, hk wrote:
JimH wrote:
On Aug 29, 10:52 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"hk" wrote in message

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No way, no how, no McCain!
I now agree with you. * McCain just handed the election to Obama/Biden *with
his Veep choice.

What was he thinking? * One of his biggest handicaps is his age. *So, he
picks a 44 year old with virtually no national experience and only a year
and a half as governor of Alaska to be a heartbeat away from being POTUS.

McCain must have a *thing* for former beauty pageant contestants.

Eisboch

Who would you rather have.......a POTUS with no executive and limited
political experience or a VPOTUS with executive but only limited
political experience?

McCain has no executive and limited political experience and has chosen
a veep candidate with limited political and executive experience.

McCain has *limited* political experience??

On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 12:00:51 -0400, hk wrote:


It seems a strange choice to me. McCain apparently thinks he can win by
doubling down on the ultra-conservative Republican base, but I think
that is a pipe dream. With this choice, McCain has thrown away his
"experience" argument. And for the moment at least, she has an
investigatory cloud hanging over her head.

Maybe he knows something we don't, but I don't get it. Both sides
generally move to the center to get elected. McCain has been steadily
moving to the right. I'm just wondering how many independents he's going
to attract, independents needed to win.

hk wrote:
Eisboch wrote:
"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:


I now agree with you. McCain just handed the election to
Obama/Biden with
his Veep choice.

What was he thinking? One of his biggest handicaps is his age.
So, he
picks a 44 year old with virtually no national experience and only
a year
and a half as governor of Alaska to be a heartbeat away from being
POTUS.



Remember Dan Quayle?
Probably others as limited that I can't remember.

Old "potatoe" head?

The difference is that GHWB wasn't 72 years old.

Eisboch



There were lots of other differences. For starters, GHWB was a smart,
level-headed, experienced player on the world stage, with no reputation
as a shooter from the hip. McCain is a hothead.

I really don't know what to make of the Palin choice. There's nothing in
her record that impresses me. Is McCain now going to change his position
on Anwar?

If I were McCain and wanted to pick a woman veep, I would have chosen
Christy Todd Whitman.

You are turning out to be a real good at triangulation.

Eisboch wrote:
"JimH" wrote in message
...
On Aug 29, 10:52 am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"hk" wrote in message

...

No way, no how, no McCain!
I now agree with you. McCain just handed the election to Obama/Biden with
his Veep choice.

What was he thinking? One of his biggest handicaps is his age. So, he
picks a 44 year old with virtually no national experience and only a year
and a half as governor of Alaska to be a heartbeat away from being POTUS.

McCain must have a *thing* for former beauty pageant contestants.

Eisboch


Who would you rather have.......a POTUS with no executive and limited
political experience or a VPOTUS with executive but only limited
political experience?


----------------------------------------------------------------

Putting aside the liberal vs. conservative thing for a moment:

Obama made a brilliant choice in Biden. Biden fills in the void of Obama's
lack of national experience.
McCain, at 72 years old, made a choice that is strictly for political,
electibility reasons, I am afraid.

I've pointed out before ... I vote for the team that I think will best serve
the national security interests of the US because, to me, that's their
primary job. Social welfare programs, hurricane relief and bridge repairs
are the responsibility of the state and local governments, with federal
assistance and laws as required.

Eisboch



I just want to poll one woman. Who will Mrs.E. vote for now? :-) I
think McCain picked up a minimum of 45 million votes. And the timing was
perfect.

On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 12:08:15 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Obama made a brilliant choice in Biden. Biden fills in the void of Obama's
lack of national experience.

Which is a choice for political, electibility reasons is it not? :)

McCain, at 72 years old, made a choice that is strictly for political,
electibility reasons, I am afraid.

Which is different from Biden how?

If there is one thing - only one - that makes her a great choice for
McCain, it's this.

She has made a private and intensely personal choice that none of the
males currently in contention has. She made it and lives it. That
one single fact has neutralized the whole abortion debate becasue even
as a pro-life candidate, she still had to make that choice.

Secondarily, she has great strength of character and that counts for a
lot with me.

Personally, I think it's a great choice - and I must say, that I
thought she was the best choice six months ago.

Right again. :)

On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 18:51:02 GMT, Short Wave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Aug 2008 12:08:15 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:

Obama made a brilliant choice in Biden. Biden fills in the void of Obama's
lack of national experience.

Which is a choice for political, electibility reasons is it not? :)

McCain, at 72 years old, made a choice that is strictly for political,
electibility reasons, I am afraid.

Which is different from Biden how?

If there is one thing - only one - that makes her a great choice for
McCain, it's this.

She has made a private and intensely personal choice that none of the
males currently in contention has. She made it and lives it. That
one single fact has neutralized the whole abortion debate becasue even
as a pro-life candidate, she still had to make that choice.

Secondarily, she has great strength of character and that counts for a
lot with me.

Personally, I think it's a great choice - and I must say, that I
thought she was the best choice six months ago.

Right again. :)

I'm waiting for the first liberal to say there's something wrong with her
because she didn't abort the baby (or 'fetus', they'll say) when she
learned it had Down's Syndrome. To many liberals, killing the kid would
have been the proper thing to do. Keeping the kid would have been the
foolish thing to do.

Hell, we have one of those in our midst.


--
John H

"It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!"
[A Self-obsessed Hypocrite]

"jim" wrote in message
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I've pointed out before ... I vote for the team that I think will best
serve the national security interests of the US because, to me, that's
their primary job. Social welfare programs, hurricane relief and bridge
repairs are the responsibility of the state and local governments, with
federal assistance and laws as required.

Eisboch



I just want to poll one woman. Who will Mrs.E. vote for now? :-) I think
McCain picked up a minimum of 45 million votes. And the timing was
perfect.


I haven't asked her. I doubt she has ever even heard of Sarah Palin. I
know I had not.

Eisboch