On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 06:17:34 -0400, hk wrote:

Next time W'hine responds to a post of mine that has nothing to do with
him, ask W'hine that. Go ahead...make my day.

Wayne answers: Because I am fed up with your attitude and unprovoked
attacks on others.

It's just that simple. Go away and get a life.

On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 03:40:53 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"hk" wrote in message
...
Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:01:45 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

Its roughly 68 miles from Key West to Dry Tortugas over shallow
water. About 20 miles out one can stop at the Marquesas. This might
be a good Tolman trip

It's safer than a Gulf Stream crossing. We did it last January and
got beat up a bit on the return trip - 25 kts out of the north with 6
to 7 foot beam seas most of the way. There is also a nice little
anchorage at Boca Grande Key east of the Marquesas. In the summer
time you still have thunderstorm risk but you have the option of
seeking shelter or beating a retreat. The longest open water passage
is about 30 nautical miles. You will be just about the smallest boat
out there, even the Cuban refugees use bigger.




If you were a nice guy, D'whine, you'd offer to "convoy" with O'Hara.
After all, you're both in Florida, and you certainly have nothing of
importance to do anymore. Right?


Here we have a perfect example of Harry being Harry. Wayne's post was
informative to the OP's question, and had absolutely no reference to Harry.
Yet, Harry is compelled to respond with a snarky comment. Why?

Eisboch


Perhaps because he's lonely and wants someone to talk to him?
--
** Good Day! **

John H

On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 06:28:18 -0400, John H.
salmonremovebait@gmaildotcom wrote:

On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 03:40:53 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote:


"hk" wrote in message
m...
Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:01:45 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

Its roughly 68 miles from Key West to Dry Tortugas over shallow
water. About 20 miles out one can stop at the Marquesas. This might
be a good Tolman trip

It's safer than a Gulf Stream crossing. We did it last January and
got beat up a bit on the return trip - 25 kts out of the north with 6
to 7 foot beam seas most of the way. There is also a nice little
anchorage at Boca Grande Key east of the Marquesas. In the summer
time you still have thunderstorm risk but you have the option of
seeking shelter or beating a retreat. The longest open water passage
is about 30 nautical miles. You will be just about the smallest boat
out there, even the Cuban refugees use bigger.




If you were a nice guy, D'whine, you'd offer to "convoy" with O'Hara.
After all, you're both in Florida, and you certainly have nothing of
importance to do anymore. Right?


Here we have a perfect example of Harry being Harry. Wayne's post was
informative to the OP's question, and had absolutely no reference to Harry.
Yet, Harry is compelled to respond with a snarky comment. Why?

Eisboch


Perhaps because he's lonely and wants someone to talk to him?

Sure thing. Just like you there, JohnnyPotkettle

On Aug 20, 3:40*am, "Eisboch" wrote:
"hk" wrote in message

. ..





Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:01:45 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

Its roughly 68 miles from Key West to Dry Tortugas over shallow
water. *About 20 miles out one can stop at the Marquesas. *This might
be a good Tolman trip

It's safer than a Gulf Stream crossing. * We did it last January and
got beat up a bit *on the return trip - 25 kts out of the north with 6
to 7 foot beam seas most of the way. * There is also a nice little
anchorage at Boca Grande Key east of the Marquesas. * In the summer
time you still have thunderstorm risk but you have the option of
seeking shelter *or beating a retreat. *The longest open water passage
is about 30 nautical miles. *You will be just about the smallest boat
out there, even the Cuban refugees use bigger.

If you were a nice guy, D'whine, you'd offer to "convoy" with O'Hara.
After all, you're both in Florida, and you certainly have nothing of
importance to do anymore. Right?

Here we have a perfect example of Harry being Harry. *Wayne's post was
informative to the OP's question, and had absolutely no reference to Harry.
Yet, Harry is compelled to respond with a snarky comment. * Why?

Eisboch- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Because he's so insecure in his personal life and his possessions that
his narcissism is overwhelming.

On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:42:50 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 17:01:45 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

Its roughly 68 miles from Key West to Dry Tortugas over shallow
water. About 20 miles out one can stop at the Marquesas. This might
be a good Tolman trip

It's safer than a Gulf Stream crossing. We did it last January and
got beat up a bit on the return trip - 25 kts out of the north with 6
to 7 foot beam seas most of the way. There is also a nice little
anchorage at Boca Grande Key east of the Marquesas. In the summer
time you still have thunderstorm risk but you have the option of
seeking shelter or beating a retreat. The longest open water passage
is about 30 nautical miles. You will be just about the smallest boat
out there, even the Cuban refugees use bigger.

There was a Carolina Skiff guy who did that trip - maybe multiple
times. Think he had a 20.' Flat water, and he was moving pretty
good. But he started on the mainland - Everglades City?

--Vic

On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:20:07 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

There was a Carolina Skiff guy who did that trip - maybe multiple
times. Think he had a 20.' Flat water, and he was moving pretty
good. But he started on the mainland - Everglades City?

Just about any kind of trip like that is possible on the right day.
The fun starts when things start going wrong and cascade out of
control. What if you break down out there 50 miles from the mainland?
Your cell phone and VHF don't have enough range. If you can reach
another boat on the radio, and they can relay a message to SeaTow,
they might come out and get you - at a very steep price, probably in
the thousands. Free towing only goes 25 miles. USCG will do almost
anything to avoid coming out for you - you'll have to convince someone
that lives are at stake, and that's if you can get through to them at
all. The west coast of Florida south of Everglades City is 100 miles
of wilderness until you get to the Keys. Another interesting
consideration is that there are no supplies in the Tortugas or
anywhere else between there and Key West. Going from KW you need a
safe working range of at least 150 miles, from Everglades City more
like 250 miles.

On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 23:46:58 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:20:07 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

There was a Carolina Skiff guy who did that trip - maybe multiple
times. Think he had a 20.' Flat water, and he was moving pretty
good. But he started on the mainland - Everglades City?

Just about any kind of trip like that is possible on the right day.
The fun starts when things start going wrong and cascade out of
control. What if you break down out there 50 miles from the mainland?
Your cell phone and VHF don't have enough range. If you can reach
another boat on the radio, and they can relay a message to SeaTow,
they might come out and get you - at a very steep price, probably in
the thousands. Free towing only goes 25 miles. USCG will do almost
anything to avoid coming out for you - you'll have to convince someone
that lives are at stake, and that's if you can get through to them at

That's for sure. Even if you set off an EPIRB, they'll ask for other
people to try and confirm it's a real emergency before they send
anything out. With all those boats in south Florida, do you know how
many false alarms they get? There's no way they can send out
resources to all of them without confirmation.

Although you might have a better chance if it goes off 50 miles from
shore in bad weather than in a marina.

Steve

On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 23:46:58 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:20:07 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

There was a Carolina Skiff guy who did that trip - maybe multiple
times. Think he had a 20.' Flat water, and he was moving pretty
good. But he started on the mainland - Everglades City?

Just about any kind of trip like that is possible on the right day.
The fun starts when things start going wrong and cascade out of
control. What if you break down out there 50 miles from the mainland?
Your cell phone and VHF don't have enough range. If you can reach
another boat on the radio, and they can relay a message to SeaTow,
they might come out and get you - at a very steep price, probably in
the thousands. Free towing only goes 25 miles. USCG will do almost
anything to avoid coming out for you - you'll have to convince someone
that lives are at stake, and that's if you can get through to them at
all. The west coast of Florida south of Everglades City is 100 miles
of wilderness until you get to the Keys. Another interesting
consideration is that there are no supplies in the Tortugas or
anywhere else between there and Key West. Going from KW you need a
safe working range of at least 150 miles, from Everglades City more
like 250 miles.

Good points, and care must be taken in that type journey.
I think the guy I mentioned had a kicker, but I can't get into the
forum's search function to find out.
Anyway, as I recall when I read it, it wasn't a voyage I wanted to
undertake with that boat.
My dad has fond memories of a couple Tortugas fishing trips he took.
3-day deals where you had berths on the fishing boat to nap in.
Fish, nap, fish, eat, fish, ****, fish, fish, eat, fish, etc.
It was over 10 years ago and he recalls paying 200 bucks.
I think it was this boat,
http://www.gotothekeys.com/florida_fish_finder_main.htm

115 footer. Caught lots of fish, and the food on the boat was pretty
good. Seas were almost flat on his trips.

--Vic